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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
Personally, I was never convinced (and still wouldn't call myself a fan) but that's more due to the lack of interest I show in Kpop nowadays or mainly for new groups. I only really stick to the older groups of the 2006-2009 generation (+dbsk) and follow their releases. CP Manseee | ||
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SojoX
United States111 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Tara's pretty decent this time around. Jiyeon looks really good, and that's all that really matters for me from a visual perspective, haha. Songs aren't bad, not their best, but pretty good. | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On December 03 2013 00:36 SojoX wrote: I should have clarified, Fiestar takes cute and still tries to apply sexy to it. They take it to a place that CP won't because CP has basically said it wouldn't work for them. you just described basically every group still doing a sexy concept in 2013. Dunno if I would describe it as less corporate though. Chrome CEO basically said he planned on the weirdness and street performances to be their draw from the beginning and specifically modeled CP off Japanese groups like Momoiro Clover Z. Everything in kpop is formulaic, CP just used a formula basically no one else has until now whereas every other girl group basically slots itself into 1 of 2 molds. | ||
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Nyorx
Canada325 Posts
![[image loading]](http://31.media.tumblr.com/01f3deea12a4d5d569b19578d7edcfaa/tumblr_mx6q4ci6Lc1qkljdfo1_1280.jpg) + Show Spoiler [Other Members] + ![[image loading]](http://24.media.tumblr.com/98b9a910ec1fc8afd0007e30cd1a2eb4/tumblr_mx6pybmX7c1qkljdfo1_1280.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://31.media.tumblr.com/237d9e6a54744d28ad0d18dafb09590d/tumblr_mx6q1pkkOs1qkljdfo1_1280.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://25.media.tumblr.com/b46455010c790f541f1de2c3815952b5/tumblr_mx6pzi6opT1qkljdfo1_1280.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://31.media.tumblr.com/dd96e6f83dd80682bab9285738ef7c1e/tumblr_mx6q2yDFXa1qkljdfo1_1280.jpg) | ||
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Zhuu
United States356 Posts
New T-ara hype. CP *vomits* oh, and I like the 2ne1 song, it's nice.  edit* On December 03 2013 01:37 Nyorx wrote: I don't think I'm prepared for this.. + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler [Other Members] + omfg pls | ||
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Kaiwa
Netherlands2209 Posts
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SojoX
United States111 Posts
On December 03 2013 01:28 DystopiaX wrote: you just described basically every group still doing a sexy concept in 2013. Dunno if I would describe it as less corporate though. Chrome CEO basically said he planned on the weirdness and street performances to be their draw from the beginning and specifically modeled CP off Japanese groups like Momoiro Clover Z. Everything in kpop is formulaic, CP just used a formula basically no one else has until now whereas every other girl group basically slots itself into 1 of 2 molds. Feels like most groups have moved on to full blown sexy as of now. Not much cuteness going on. | ||
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Craton
United States17283 Posts
There aren't really that many notable* girl group releases to begin with, so if it's slanted one way during a cycle then it will seem to be slanted more by comparison. Think of who released since October: Normal 2Eyes - Shooting Star 2NE1 - Missing You Davichi - Letter Gahee - Who Are You? (Not very sexy to me at least) Hyorin - Love & Hate IU - Modern Times Cute Girl's Day - Let's Go Sexy AOA - Red Motion [Confused] Bestie - Ass Shake Miss A - Hush Nine Muses - Primadonna [Gun] T-ara - Again [Number 9] Both Fiestar - Curious [I Don't Know] (Mostly just because of the revealing stage outfits) If you go back to September it's predominately in the "normal" category. This basically gets you a pretty low instance of cute, which I think has always been true if we actually track through the releases, while a more even distribution of normal and sexy, which is all largely subjective anyway. It's all perception. + Show Spoiler + P.S. I don't care about whether you agree with my specific categorizations; it just means you're missing the point. *Notable is used loosely. I know e.g. 2EYES isn't particularly notable, but I also don't exactly want to include every single group that's effectively already dead. | ||
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SojoX
United States111 Posts
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Craton
United States17283 Posts
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Ym1r
United States1164 Posts
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SojoX
United States111 Posts
On December 03 2013 08:22 Craton wrote: I don't think it "hurts" the music at all; it's just a facet of it. People like what they like. I don't like trot and it has nothing to do with what other songs are out there. Hurts as in the focus remains 90% on it and 10% on anything else. At least what gets through the filters (even here in this thread) to audiences outside Korea. This isn't a criticism of normal/sexy pop, it's a criticism of the coverage it gets comparatively. Just like Quentin Tarantino gets so much attention for his "homages" to Asian films as opposed to attention those homaged films (which are, arguably, a lot better than what he makes) get. Not a perfect apples to apples comparison but it gets the point across. | ||
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Craton
United States17283 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On December 03 2013 08:31 SojoX wrote: Hurts as in the focus remains 90% on it and 10% on anything else. At least what gets through the filters (even here in this thread) to audiences outside Korea. This isn't a criticism of normal/sexy pop, it's a criticism of the coverage it gets comparatively. Just like Quentin Tarantino gets so much attention for his "homages" to Asian films as opposed to attention those homaged films (which are, arguably, a lot better than what he makes) get. Not a perfect apples to apples comparison but it gets the point across. If there weren't girl groups to attract people in this thread's attention 99% of us wouldn't have ever heard of kpop. Craton is right, people will like what they like, and it has nothing to do with what else is on the market right now. | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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andyrau
13015 Posts
I AM the 1% also this cute -> sexy cycle happens all the time - eg, so hot/nobody -> gee -> abracadabra -> bo peep -> lupin, etc (I think that's the correct chronology) | ||
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ProV1
United States980 Posts
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