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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 18 2012 07:51 GMT
#87821
On December 18 2012 16:43 DystopiaX wrote:
Might just be a different upload then? I feel like the preview screen or whatever was different.

Well yeah, the video there right now was uploaded in 2012 to the official MBC channel, I doubt the original video still exists and this one has better quality anyway.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
December 18 2012 07:55 GMT
#87822
Yea the original video got taken down.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 18 2012 07:55 GMT
#87823
Watching old SNSD videos makes me

They used to be so good. Now they're just trash.
God Bless
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 08:05:18
December 18 2012 08:01 GMT
#87824
Well, I'm still pretty sure that the thumbnail I saw before was from the genie mv, but it might be from the preview thingy they show before the perf, whatever. Here's the exact quote of the OP made by Demizzle. Same 090718 perf.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 19 2009 16:46 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Rules that need to be adhered to please:

1. No good music please. We don't want it mucking up our narrow and ignorant world where regurgitated and unclever beats mixed with terrible simplistic lyrics sung by hordes of plastic girls is the preferred music.

2. Must be socially inept and critically awkward on the forums. We prefer explosions of lame facial gestures and terrible choreographed group dancing.. being social or sharing space with people that isn't internet based does not interest us.

3. I like shiny things.

4. post image macros and random videos of kpop with limited descriptions and shallow discussion.

5. This is critical: Must be able to withstand tremendous criticism. We are strange, low people with base interests. If we are found (god help us) we will be mocked.

That being said here is a video I like:



Notice the amazing choreography, they kick AND sing while wearing heels.. fucking amazing. Also the outfits are adorable. Makes me wish they were younger.

Discuss!
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
December 18 2012 08:07 GMT
#87825
On December 18 2012 16:55 Roffles wrote:
Watching old SNSD videos makes me

They used to be so good. Now they're just trash.

Roffles liked SNSD?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 18 2012 08:09 GMT
#87826
On December 18 2012 17:07 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 16:55 Roffles wrote:
Watching old SNSD videos makes me

They used to be so good. Now they're just trash.

Roffles liked SNSD?

I think most people here did up till around the RDR era.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 08:21:49
December 18 2012 08:18 GMT
#87827
On December 18 2012 17:09 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 17:07 Nos- wrote:
On December 18 2012 16:55 Roffles wrote:
Watching old SNSD videos makes me

They used to be so good. Now they're just trash.

Roffles liked SNSD?

I think most people here did up till around the RDR era.

Honest opinion, SNSD's first album is still probably the best full album by a girl group. Their stuff after that up until RDR was okay, with the exception of Oh. After that, it's as if they tried to incorporate too much fucking other shit into their songs and it became total fuckin trash. That style != SNSD, and it hurts to see. With SNSD, I want to see a good mix of vocals and something catchy that fits their vocals. Fitting their vocals means that high uptempo beats and darker club style songs just don't work for them, as none of them have the voice to pull it off. None of them have the ability to go into the lower registers to make T-ara type songs sound good, which is what they've been pulling out as of late. If I wanted heavy beats and fuckin autotuned shit, I'd go and listen to T-ara, not SNSD.
God Bless
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 08:23:53
December 18 2012 08:22 GMT
#87828
On December 18 2012 17:18 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 17:09 DystopiaX wrote:
On December 18 2012 17:07 Nos- wrote:
On December 18 2012 16:55 Roffles wrote:
Watching old SNSD videos makes me

They used to be so good. Now they're just trash.

Roffles liked SNSD?

I think most people here did up till around the RDR era.

Honest opinion, SNSD's first album is still probably the best full album by a girl group. Their stuff after that up until RDR was okay, with the exception of Oh. After that, it's as if they tried to incorporate too much fucking other shit into their songs and it became total fuckin trash. That style != SNSD, and it hurts to see. With SNSD, I want to see a good mix of vocals and something catchy that fits their vocals. Fitting their vocals means that high uptempo beats and darker club style songs just don't work for them, as none of them have the voice to pull it off. None of them have the ability to go into the lower registers to make T-ara type songs sound good, which is what they've been pulling out as of late. If I wanted heavy beats and fuckin autotuned shit, I'd go and listen to T-ara, not SNSD.

This is actually pretty much my exact opinion on SNSD lol. idk about best full album but the rest...yeah.

Plus half of them got uglier looking as time went on, that video just reminded me of it.

edit- You added your voices+club beats = bad stuff in while I was posting this, don't know if I would agree with that (I don't think many of their title tracks would have sounded good with the "right" voices) but I agree with the general gist of your statement.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 08:24:16
December 18 2012 08:23 GMT
#87829
What other girl groups have good full albums? Absolutely none of them except for T-ara's Absolute First.
God Bless
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 08:25:12
December 18 2012 08:24 GMT
#87830
It was less that I had another good one in my mind and more that I wasn't prepared to back that statement.

Now that I think about it...you might be right. I liked A Pink's full album but I'd have to give that a few years and go back to it to see if I still feel the same way...

and now that I think about it most albums are like half filler

and I might pick Absolute First over that anyway
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51690 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 08:34:17
December 18 2012 08:28 GMT
#87831
KARA - The First Blooming
Davichi - Amaranth (although wouldn't really define them as a group)
Any SeeYa album (but the question remains too like above)
Wonder Girls - Wonder Years
Any Fin.K.L/SES shit.

Note though that's stretching over a decade. If you were to comment on any album post Absolute First era, it's impossible to put a stake to it (mainly because a. music has been more trashier and b. companies opting to go for the EP route rather than LP releases).
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 18 2012 08:32 GMT
#87832
I think first bloomings non-title tracks are pretty good but I can't stand break it or if u wanna which downgrades it in my book

and when considering music I don't think that a group like Davichi and SNSD are really comparable
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 08:42:28
December 18 2012 08:33 GMT
#87833
In terms of style, Absolute First was insanely well done. Almost every track had insane background beats and a touch of autotune, essentially creating this style that T-ara's stuck with to this date. SNSD's first album basically had really the same thing going, with lots of light instrumentals that meshed well with their light vocals.

Every other album I've listened to had random shit all over the place and the musical style just wasn't present. Was like a bit of rap, bit of good vocals, cutesy shit along with heavy techno stuff. No good.

I don't count Davichi/SeeYa, even though I enjoy their songs. Wonder Years is ehh with a lotta non-title tracks being really subpar, and Kara's First Blooming was aight, but no Sunghee = Kara's bad. Having no one who can actually sing in your group hurts a lot.

Even if you talk EPs, anything after a few years ago has been pretty trash to the point that you rarely find 2-3 songs on the same "album" that are decent.
God Bless
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
December 18 2012 08:58 GMT
#87834
dont forget une annee from apink, it has like 1 title that i dont like (the intro lol)

snsd is like metallica, just in a smaller spectrum. it just got worse looking at it from a music perspective. Its pretty nonexistant thou that any group has only good songs (and thats always debatable as taste differs, one mans treasure...etc)

The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 09:13:07
December 18 2012 09:12 GMT
#87835
I think calling SNSD's later stuff complete trash is pulling it a bit too far.. Yeah it's not Into The New World quality.. but some songs are good, especially their japanese ballads. But seeing stuff like The Boys etc is kinda sad I agree.

On December 18 2012 17:33 Roffles wrote:
Even if you talk EPs, anything after a few years ago has been pretty trash to the point that you rarely find 2-3 songs on the same "album" that are decent.


I'd have to disagree with this. Even if albums aren't only good songs anymore I can often find more than 2-3 songs that I kinda like from the same album, even as recent as The SeeYa album. or the new Ailee album, the new Son dambi album or why not the miss A independent women part3 album. Many more examples can easily be made.

I just think SNSD aren't the same people they were back then, I think their personality just changed. Now they feel like "it girls" and not young girls who wants success badly. This is easily noticeable by all the Tiffany pics posted here, always looking so fashionable with her dumb gadgets and shit in hand out shopping.

~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
December 18 2012 09:28 GMT
#87836
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 18 2012 12:35 Zhuu wrote:
This is out now.



Many thanks!
AKMU / IU
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
December 18 2012 09:36 GMT
#87837
On December 18 2012 17:58 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
dont forget une annee from apink, it has like 1 title that i dont like (the intro lol)

snsd is like metallica, just in a smaller spectrum. it just got worse looking at it from a music perspective. Its pretty nonexistant thou that any group has only good songs (and thats always debatable as taste differs, one mans treasure...etc)


I will never understand the obsession with une anne. In extension, I will also never understand the love for wonder girls, but the latter may just be personal taste.

anyways, seven springs was the better album by far. Their sophomore effort was boring as hell by comparison. perhaps the industry was simply too saturated by cutesy releases, but nothing at all stuck out about that album. just another album wallowing in its own aegyo-ey mediocrity that every other group has the ability to produce.



also agree that past their debut albums, snsd and Kara have ranged from garbage to mediocre. catchy, sure, but trash nonetheless.

on a completely unrelated tangent I've liked every ccm-produced release except yayaya and whatever the coed one was.
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klogg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden800 Posts
December 18 2012 09:58 GMT
#87838
Une Annee was extremely bland and forgettable. Poopypoo only good song.

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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 10:05:44
December 18 2012 10:04 GMT
#87839
On December 18 2012 18:36 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 17:58 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
dont forget une annee from apink, it has like 1 title that i dont like (the intro lol)

snsd is like metallica, just in a smaller spectrum. it just got worse looking at it from a music perspective. Its pretty nonexistant thou that any group has only good songs (and thats always debatable as taste differs, one mans treasure...etc)


I will never understand the obsession with une anne. In extension, I will also never understand the love for wonder girls, but the latter may just be personal taste.

anyways, seven springs was the better album by far. Their sophomore effort was boring as hell by comparison. perhaps the industry was simply too saturated by cutesy releases, but nothing at all stuck out about that album. just another album wallowing in its own aegyo-ey mediocrity that every other group has the ability to produce.



also agree that past their debut albums, snsd and Kara have ranged from garbage to mediocre. catchy, sure, but trash nonetheless.

on a completely unrelated tangent I've liked every ccm-produced release except yayaya and whatever the coed one was.

Are you forgetting about Snow Pink or am I really tired and not accurately interpreting your post

either way I liked all of the tracks on all of the Apinks ever, no exaggeration. I think Boy and I got you (basically the tail end of Une Annee) gets weaker in comparison to the rest of the tracks, but I thought most of the other tracks were pretty good

@above- if Secret ever gets into a T-ara-like scandal people will dig up that gif to prove how Secret are all bullying other members
Syrii
Profile Joined January 2012
Netherlands216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 10:08:48
December 18 2012 10:06 GMT
#87840
The thing is there really aren't a lot of full albums. (Seven Springs/Snow Ping both are EP's. Snow Pink > Seven Springs > Une Annee though, imo. Une Annee still a nice full album though.)

Except for the stuff that's already been mentioned A Class/So Cool, although not quite on the same level, also come to mind. Might not be the same for everyone else though.
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