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logikly
Profile Joined February 2009
United States329 Posts
November 27 2012 06:31 GMT
#86181
On November 27 2012 15:09 Moonwrath wrote:
BoA. Daaaaamn
I'll eat you up so yum yum!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

함은정,류화영,남규리
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 27 2012 08:32 GMT
#86182
oooooomg Sun Ye, congratulations
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 10:32:04
November 27 2012 10:17 GMT
#86183
[image loading]

The creepy line

A Korean Music Discussion guide on how to find out where to draw it (or if you've crossed it).


Often times during my internet travels to spread the good word of Jung and recruit Kamilias, I've been told I was creepy, deranged, psychotic, worry-some, etc. But the one characteristic that came up most was "creepy".

creep·y/ˈkrēpē/
Adjective: Causing fear or unease: "creepy feelings in a strange house".
Synonyms: gruesome - reptile - creeping

Apparently my love for this foreign beauty puts people uneasy when they first find out about it. I've never really bothered about that in the past, I embraced the adjective and pursued my crusade.

Recently however, I've experienced feelings, physical feelings associated with this unrequited love. You see, I was playing a gta style game based in a fictitious Hong Kong called Sleeping Dogs. At some point in the game, the player gets involved with the big money makers of the Chinese triad, the player meets Sony, a guy who owns an entertainment company and muscles movie directors into accepting his actors and actresses into their movies. He's an agent of some sort. Deals in Music, movies, and porn. At one point Sony explains to the character how the industry works, how he gets to use the girls wanting to become stars for sex, how he makes them sleep with producers for jobs and whatnot. When Sony was explaining that, I thought of Nicole and I got physically sick. I started feeling unwell, got a little dizzy, felt angered, blood was boiling up inside. I wanted to quit the game and stop playing right there. Actually I wanted to do more, I wanted to smash the fucking monitor and tell that fictitious video game character to shut the fuck up.

A couple of minutes later when I had time to cool down, I realized that what had just happened was rather creepy. All of the unease I felt. For a stranger... It can be weird if you look at it from that angle. But then again I ask myself ? Is it abnormal to worry about someone you love ? No matter how close or not you are to them, if you love them, you'll worry for them and wish for their best right ? So was that normal and acceptable ? I don't know... But as of now I do consider what happened kind of creepy.

That one time where I down right hallucinated her walking by my side and almost extended my hand as to grab her's while I was walking by myself on campus was also kind of... weird.

This bring us to where should the line be drawn ? Should one start to re-consider this whole K-Pop affair or maybe their life completely) upon falling in love with an idol one has never met ? Nah, I don't think so, we all have needs, be it emotional, sexual, or what have you and I think it's ok to try and fill these needs that way. It's harmless, if you keep it to yourself, no one will find out. It's no big deal and should fade out eventually.

How about when one goes public with the admiration ? Nah... Could just be a dedicated fan right ?
What if it's when one starts hanging up posters and buying a lot of merchandise ? Maybe in there lies a sign ? I don't know for sure.

What I think is that when you're fantasy love starts to interfere with your everyday life and feelings should be where the line is drawn. That's when things start to become dangerous. Not finding "normal" girls attractive anymore ? Comparing them to your bias ? If you day-dream of your idol during school, talk to her in one-way conversations on Twitter and wonder how she feels or what she's doing everyday, you may need to take a step back and look at what you're doing.

Consider this a warning for new fans.
In KPop lies danger, not for everyone, but I would recommend lonely people and people with relationship/feelings issues and/or addictive behavior to be careful of how far they let it go.

---------

KARA announced the release of the solo collection album in Korea!
The regular and limited edition of the solo collection album will be available in stores on December 4th.
(Already up for pre-orders on dvdheaven, Gmarket and some eBay stores.)
The Limited Edition will feature a DVD with all of the solos MVs on it.

According to DSP Media, the solo tracks of the KARA members will be released on November 28th and 30th, along with their respective music videos.

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betamale
Profile Joined September 2010
633 Posts
November 27 2012 10:24 GMT
#86184
take it to blogs creep.

User was warned for this post
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
November 27 2012 10:28 GMT
#86185
Did you read what he wrote? I think his post's alright. Maybe it belongs to blogs but dismissing it as creepy makes it sound like you didn't read the post in the first place.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 27 2012 10:34 GMT
#86186
There's a clear difference about writing something creepy and writing something about creeperdom
I think it's fine, albeit a bit...different, then again classic TuElite is always different, so it's aight
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 10:46:11
November 27 2012 10:44 GMT
#86187
Creepy is an interesting topic, especially when it comes to fan-dom/bias/waifus/etc.
I've always taken the stance that "creepy" is just a perception. So if you keep the stuff to yourself, technically you're not "creepy". Though your relationship with Nicole (I use the word "relationship" for the lack of a better word or phrase) is seemingly creepy, it is only because we've been revealed the extent of your devotion (again, I use the word 'devotion' for the lack of a better term). I'm sure there are definitely people who've taken their fandom to levels even beyond yourself, but have been able to hide it from public view.

So in terms of practical usage of the word "creepy", the only difference between you and a "normal" person, is that the public knows of your fandom.

(That's why I roll up my windows when Miss A's I Don't Need a Man, comes up on my playlist)
liftlift > tsm
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
November 27 2012 10:47 GMT
#86188
lol this is like looking into Napoleon's diary and reading an entry where he hypothesizes that over-aggressiveness displayed by people of short stature is due to overcompensation for their height.


On November 27 2012 13:50 Demizzle wrote:
The Seeya If I Ain't Got You cover pgood

+ Show Spoiler +

does korea only know one western song with strong vocals? everyone and their grandmother covers this.

great cover though.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
November 27 2012 11:38 GMT
#86189
As others have said I think if it's one group that can just go on like normal it's probably Wonder Girls. They seem to operate on other rules than the rest of them. They don't even really feel like idols.. At least to me. They will be fine unless this is some shotgun wedding cause she is pregnant which I highly doubt considering most of these girls are deep christians.

~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
November 27 2012 12:19 GMT
#86190
I think people are getting confused about how Sunye announcing her marriage might affect WG. It seems like some of you are talking like this would be some kind of scandal that affects their image somehow, but that's not the case at all. They might be over because Sunye is way too important of a member to lose, and it certainly sounds like she is on indefinite hiatus now.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51690 Posts
November 27 2012 12:25 GMT
#86191
iirc she's marrying some rich korean-canadian guy
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Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
November 27 2012 12:34 GMT
#86192
This indeed is not a scandal, it's a legit marriage. Pregnancy would be a real big deal but seeing how they've been together for a long time, it'll be fine. Member loss is the thing to care about. But I'm no WG fan so nothing changes for me.

Nice write TuElite, I am not sure how fast and how many of us (Kpop fans, not only in here) need to draw the line but I've always had an open mind when it comes to these fantasy gfs or loves. 1 out of how many are on your caliber, that's my real question.
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
Syrii
Profile Joined January 2012
Netherlands216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 13:47:01
November 27 2012 13:33 GMT
#86193
Some of my ramblings:

I would say there's two different things. When is something creepy? and when is your obsession not healthy anymore?

Being creepy:
Personally I think you're fine as long as your love for your bias is seperated from your irl feelings of love and desire etc. Your love for your bias should be about supporting them, and appreciating (being a source of enjoyement, inspiration and motivation) the content they provide.

On November 27 2012 19:17 TuElite wrote:
This bring us to where should the line be drawn ? Should one start to re-consider this whole K-Pop affair or maybe their life completely) upon falling in love with an idol one has never met ? Nah, I don't think so, we all have needs, be it emotional, sexual, or what have you and I think it's ok to try and fill these needs that way. It's harmless, if you keep it to yourself, no one will find out. It's no big deal and should fade out eventually.

I don't have a problem with this, but I do think this is where things start getting creepy. And personally it's not somewhere I have an interest in going. This where I would draw the line in terms of being creepy.

On November 27 2012 19:17 TuElite wrote:
What I think is that when you're fantasy love starts to interfere with your everyday life and feelings should be where the line is drawn. That's when things start to become dangerous. Not finding "normal" girls attractive anymore ? Comparing them to your bias ? If you day-dream of your idol during school, talk to her in one-way conversations on Twitter and wonder how she feels or what she's doing everyday, you may need to take a step back and look at what you're doing.

And this is where your obsession isn't healthy anymore.

Moderation is important in both cases (being a dedicated fan // having actual feelings for your bias) as well though. Kpop (and everything that comes with it) should be a positive addition to your life, not something that controls it.
Chorong & Bomi <3 | A Pink! | http://www.last.fm/user/Yyorin49
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 14:58:42
November 27 2012 14:41 GMT
#86194
Shinee MV for their latest Japanese song, and its not in a box.



Good song and MV imo.

On November 27 2012 23:53 Jarzai wrote:
Hello all, It has been a long two weeks, I think I learned my lesson hehe, But now I must ask an urgent question. How many pictures can i stuff in one post? I've heard it's 100 but I need to be sure here. I'm not taking any chances.

And if you haven't listened SNSD's new album stop being an idiot and do it. It's pretty cool, but alas I am a Sone and a fanboy, so you might have a different opinion on it...


101 is the limit. I should probably get started since I did promise 10k pics...
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Jarzai
Profile Joined December 2011
United States702 Posts
November 27 2012 14:53 GMT
#86195
Hello all, It has been a long two weeks, I think I learned my lesson hehe, But now I must ask an urgent question. How many pictures can i stuff in one post? I've heard it's 100 but I need to be sure here. I'm not taking any chances.

And if you haven't listened SNSD's new album stop being an idiot and do it. It's pretty cool, but alas I am a Sone and a fanboy, so you might have a different opinion on it...
@Yulwell. Yuri "Always Smile" ~ Jessica Jung AYO GG
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
November 27 2012 14:59 GMT
#86196
Yup...
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 27 2012 15:13 GMT
#86197
Creepy is just really dependent on what society considers normal. There are plenty of things that "normal people" do on a daily basis that I consider creepy as hell, but societal norms are pretty well ingrained to shun outliers. Like, unless you're doing really fucked up stuff like actual stalking or actively deluding yourself into thinking a RealDoll is your girlfriend idol, then there's more wrong with you in the head than just fandom.

You're only as creepy as you think you are, imo.
It's your boy Guzma!
rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
November 27 2012 15:25 GMT
#86198
now that invincible youth is cancelled i find myself of want of a show where i can watch kpop girls frolic. is there such a show airing atm? other than we got married...
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1789 Posts
November 27 2012 16:06 GMT
#86199
Sunye getting married makes me think of the possibility that fellow 2007 debuts SNSD and KARA will have their own marriage announcements soon too. I think that it will be Sunny for SNSD and HaraNicole for KARA. (I just want to see Tuelite's reaction)
Leee Jaee Doong
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 16:30:36
November 27 2012 16:24 GMT
#86200
On November 27 2012 23:59 Sableyeah wrote:
Yup...


well deserved

also @TuElite's post, the post itself isn't creepy like your usual stuff hehe and if KpoP has such a big influence on your everyday life you should really reconsider the "value" of this hobby ( is it a hobby anymore, if it reached that point?=

also thx to you I found "Sleeping Dogs" I love GTA Style games, even more if they have an asian setting lol. Gonna try it out later.
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