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klogg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden800 Posts
September 24 2012 09:54 GMT
#78201
On September 24 2012 18:41 firehand101 wrote:
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On September 24 2012 18:33 klogg wrote:
The choreography for TVXQ's new song has lots of cool shit, but it's pretty incoherent. It's like they just added cool stuff for the sake of having cool stuff. At least they are the first ones in k-pop to actually match the dance with the wubs instead of throwing in random moves, Changmin's arm lift thing was godlike.

I like the song, TVXQ and BoA are the only artists from SM I still like.

I....I can't believe it...
Someone in here actually (semi) likes a male kpop song...I must be dreaming

I'm pretty sure I've said before that I generally prefer to listen to male groups since they tend to be of higher quality. This is only natural since female groups are mostly more focused on visuals than actual music.

That being said.. I wouldn't be interested in K-pop without the girl groups. It's what keeps me actively engaged.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 24 2012 10:00 GMT
#78202
Male groups in general have far more impressive choreo, partially because girl groups also need to do choreo that can be easily copied by the girl fans(think Gee, Hoot, Tell me, Nobody), list goes on.

Beast is prolly my fav guy band, their last album was a tad dissapointing though but Fiction was a really damn good album.
WriterXiao8~~
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 10:05:14
September 24 2012 10:04 GMT
#78203
On September 24 2012 18:51 Lyter wrote:
firehand buddy I come here pretty much every day, but i generally only post in here when male stuff gets discussed, which is generally just DBSK around here as I don't like big bang at all these days. Majority of my playlist is male groups, I think new tvxq is pretty good. New ukiss is as well, now theres a group that gets 0 notice in this thread


Yeah loved the new U-Kiss song; the dancing is surprisingly quick and very cool.

On September 24 2012 18:54 klogg wrote:
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On September 24 2012 18:41 firehand101 wrote:
On September 24 2012 18:33 klogg wrote:
The choreography for TVXQ's new song has lots of cool shit, but it's pretty incoherent. It's like they just added cool stuff for the sake of having cool stuff. At least they are the first ones in k-pop to actually match the dance with the wubs instead of throwing in random moves, Changmin's arm lift thing was godlike.

I like the song, TVXQ and BoA are the only artists from SM I still like.

I....I can't believe it...
Someone in here actually (semi) likes a male kpop song...I must be dreaming

I'm pretty sure I've said before that I generally prefer to listen to male groups since they tend to be of higher quality. This is only natural since female groups are mostly more focused on visuals than actual music.

That being said.. I wouldn't be interested in K-pop without the girl groups. It's what keeps me actively engaged.


Of course of course...you are in the same boat as 99% of people here and in the kpop world in general....

but that got me thinking (kind of on a really random side note) When I was watching this TVXQ mv for the 5th time now I just realized how epic it sounds. And then I thought about all of the 'epic' songs/bands in kpop, sort of like the deep and emotional beatles (yesterday)/led zeppelin(stairway to heaven) songs in the West that have become semi-legend. I think of old DBSK songs/ballads, I think of Rain with 'Rainism' and 'Love Song', I think of Big Bang's 'Haru Haru', I think of MBLAQ's 'Cry' and I guess a couple more. Then I realized that these were all male groups. I can't think of any right now, but does anyone know a genuinely deep, emotional song by a girl group that has reached the kind of 'epic proportions' these songs have?

( I have actually heard quite a few amazing songs vocally by women but it is from lesser known artists and their names are in Korean and so I'm not sure who they are)

EDIT: aha maybe rainism isnt that emotional, but its 'epic' so you get what i mean lol
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Tippany
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States765 Posts
September 24 2012 10:05 GMT
#78204
@Kipsate....I saw KMK up close and personal on Saturday night!!! Sorry, I don't really have a HQ camera so no pics. But it was glorious. Just trust me on that. 4Minute was also there, sans Hyuna Beast and Teen Top had a good performance though.


Also, I need to recruit some help. I'm giving a Kpop talk to American scholarship students in Korea and need your guys' opinions on who I should talk about. Assume the big names (SNSD, Big Bang, 2NE1) are known. I'm looking for groups that are in with the new generation of high school students. Problem is I haven't been able to keep up.

So far I have:

Suzy
Min Ah
A Pink


According to Korean students these are a must.
Real action, my dream.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 10:14:10
September 24 2012 10:08 GMT
#78205
IU, Beast, CNBLUE atleast.

Deep emotional?nope, probably because I can't really understand the lyrics either and a lot of them aren't written by themselves or seem to form a certain statement.
WriterXiao8~~
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
September 24 2012 10:10 GMT
#78206
None of the songs you listed are on any kind of level of yesterday/stairway to heaven. I think you may need to take a break from posting again, that is just an awful comparison.
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
September 24 2012 10:13 GMT
#78207
On September 24 2012 18:53 andyrau wrote:
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Thank you for my new wallpaper, that is the best Sojin one that's been posted!

Tuna part 2 will not be subbed. You can watch it without subs since it's just Kara and Secret going at it.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
September 24 2012 10:13 GMT
#78208
On September 24 2012 19:10 Vorgrim wrote:
None of the songs you listed are on any kind of level of yesterday/stairway to heaven. I think you may need to take a break from posting again, that is just an awful comparison.

(facepalm) I meant in relation to Korea... I don't think the number of albums sold by all kpop artists in history don't even come close to the 1+ billion by the Beatles dude.....

They've created their own culture where they have these songs in the same 'place' that the west regards those songs.....
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 10:15:09
September 24 2012 10:14 GMT
#78209
Come on man, a song sounding pseudo-certifiably "epic" doesn't mean it gets to attain anything resembling legend status--and relative to anything whatsoever at that

I don't really know about the best criteria, but I like Davichi and BEG and think they're worth a mention for some of their music~
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
September 24 2012 10:18 GMT
#78210
On September 24 2012 19:14 Aerisky wrote:
Come on man, a song sounding pseudo-certifiably "epic" doesn't mean it gets to attain anything resembling legend status--and relative to anything whatsoever at that

I don't really know about the best criteria, but I like Davichi and BEG and think they're worth a mention for some of their music~


Korea has to have their own legends in the music industry...it is the same with every culture. There are some icons that will stand the test of time, and Rain and Big Bang certainly fill that criteria.
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cheeseosaur
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia134 Posts
September 24 2012 10:18 GMT
#78211
Girl groups got me into kpop but it does get kinda annoying seeing all the cutesy/doll stuff; 2ne1 is the only group that really stands out.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 24 2012 10:21 GMT
#78212
I would argue that that is an unfair comparison because the greats you've listed (and to whom you are drawing your kpop comparisons) are not only legendary in their home countries but also worldwide. So the kind of comparison drawn is rather frivolous. w/e don't particularly care enough either way to really get into it.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
September 24 2012 10:24 GMT
#78213
On September 24 2012 19:21 Aerisky wrote:
I would argue that that is an unfair comparison because the greats you've listed (and to whom you are drawing your kpop comparisons) are not only legendary in their home countries but also worldwide. So the kind of comparison drawn is rather frivolous. w/e don't particularly care enough either way to really get into it.

I would argue it's more than unfair...Its absolutely ludicrous to compare kpop artists to some of the greats in the West that have influenced music forever...

But that's not my point....at all....whatsoever.....

w/e nice talking to y'all again...

See you when the next TVXQ album comes out
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Purpl3
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1067 Posts
September 24 2012 10:24 GMT
#78214
I don't think Big Bang will stand the test of time. Their early work maybe, their current work is just following the meta.
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
September 24 2012 10:27 GMT
#78215
Consider this. There has. is and will continue to be better music made in my country of birth and the reason I listen to kpop is because I like Korean ladies, both their voices and looks. Kpop boybands check no boxes for me. Zero.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 10:35:07
September 24 2012 10:34 GMT
#78216
On September 24 2012 19:24 firehand101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2012 19:21 Aerisky wrote:
I would argue that that is an unfair comparison because the greats you've listed (and to whom you are drawing your kpop comparisons) are not only legendary in their home countries but also worldwide. So the kind of comparison drawn is rather frivolous. w/e don't particularly care enough either way to really get into it.

I would argue it's more than unfair...Its absolutely ludicrous to compare kpop artists to some of the greats in the West that have influenced music forever...

But that's not my point....at all....whatsoever.....

w/e nice talking to y'all again...

See you when the next TVXQ album comes out

Hey, I wasn't the one who had images (passages?) of legend-status music pop into my head upon listening to TVXQ and related stuff, and I wasn't the one who strongly implied a connection between the two in a post. I was just stating my qualms with this rather silly juxtaposition. If this wasn't your point, then just don't put the comparison into your post, as analogies are usually not great, unless you're explaining a complex topic to the uninitiated and you're only trying to convey very basic ideas.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Tippany
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States765 Posts
September 24 2012 10:40 GMT
#78217
Ya'll need to stop trying to make Kpop substantive and help me out with groups to discuss. Thanks.
Real action, my dream.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 24 2012 10:49 GMT
#78218
I was trying to imply the opposite ;o

Are there any criteria besides groups that are in the same generation as high school students? Maybe Fiestar as well :D
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 11:24:42
September 24 2012 10:53 GMT
#78219
Public speaking about kpop... What heinous crime did you commit that your punishment was this severe?

Been listening to some Joo tracks while getting very little done this morning. She has the perfect drama ost voice.
Purpl3
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1067 Posts
September 24 2012 11:32 GMT
#78220
Talk about Phantom. They good.
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