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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 10 2012 19:31 GMT
#70701
doubt SM/YG/JYP would pick her up.

As for the albums thing, it's partly support, partly getting slightly better music quality for the albums I like the most, and partly the photobooks/photocards.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 19:35:04
August 10 2012 19:33 GMT
#70702
On August 11 2012 04:25 aloT wrote:
Hwayoung's career is over. There may be a small agency that will pick her up purely to snatch media attention but after that nothing. There may be some QUEENS who will try to support her but it will be out of pity, not because she is a top class artist/rapper.

If she was truely a talented/respected/recognised musician, the question would not be "will she succeed now?", but "which agency will she choose?", "will there be a bidding war?", "do you think she'll choose SM or JYP or YG?", "will she form her own agency?". This is the unfortunate truth.


Sorry this is not the truth at all. This is you guessing wildly . You don't know dick and no one does except for her and whoever she is talking to. She might even be already talking to other agencies!
My money is on that she'll rejoin T-ara. If not I don't see it being impossible that she would be able to go somewhere else and maybe even form a new group with a bunch of trainees. You don't know if tomorrow X member from popular group Y decides to retire and voila it just opened a rap spot.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
August 10 2012 19:37 GMT
#70703
A Ryu twins group would not get past the start line. Neither have strong enough vocals to compare with Davichi and neither have strong enough rapping to compare to Leesang or JK tiger yoon mi rae (charisma/stage presence, and although not known I am highly doubtful of their musical composition and lyric writing abilites)
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 19:39:12
August 10 2012 19:37 GMT
#70704
^there are rappers out there less talented than those you named. It'd be like saying if you're not as talented or Adele or Beyonce you don't stand a chance at all, which obviously isn't true. They also don't need to write any of their shit themselves. That being said I'd personally have no interest in a Ryu twins group, and afaik Hyoyoung is still technically Co-Ed/5dolls.

On August 11 2012 04:33 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 04:25 aloT wrote:
Hwayoung's career is over. There may be a small agency that will pick her up purely to snatch media attention but after that nothing. There may be some QUEENS who will try to support her but it will be out of pity, not because she is a top class artist/rapper.

If she was truely a talented/respected/recognised musician, the question would not be "will she succeed now?", but "which agency will she choose?", "will there be a bidding war?", "do you think she'll choose SM or JYP or YG?", "will she form her own agency?". This is the unfortunate truth.


Sorry this is not the truth at all. This is you guessing wildly . You don't know dick and no one does except for her and whoever she is talking to. She might even be already talking to other agencies!
My money is on that she'll rejoin T-ara. If not I don't see it being impossible that she would be able to go somewhere else and maybe even form a new group with a bunch of trainees. You don't know if tomorrow X member from popular group Y decides to retire and voila it just opened a rap spot.

Personally I don't think CCM would be able to backpedal and add her after all the shit they went through, but CCM has been retarded before so who knows. It's possible she joins a new group but personally I doubt it'll happen.
klogg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden800 Posts
August 10 2012 19:39 GMT
#70705
Hwayoung's career is done unless she somehow manages to joins back up with T-ara again.
http://fiddle.se/ - @klogglol
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 19:44:28
August 10 2012 19:42 GMT
#70706
I am a strong supporter of Hyayoung and Hyoyoung and hope for the best, but the fact, and this is not guesswork, is that CCM have already created their images. This is solidified by their post-fiasco response and Hwayoungs apology. She was not strong enough, either alone or with her sister, to take on her former management. It took DSP a drama role in City Hunter to bring Goo Hara down, but it took verbal threats to take down Hwayoung. It speaks alot about her character that she was not willing to go the mile. I do not blame her, but others have been in her situation and at least got something out of it.
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
August 10 2012 19:43 GMT
#70707
All this Ryu twins talk reminded me of a track that got stuck in my head back along.

Jarzai
Profile Joined December 2011
United States702 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 19:50:15
August 10 2012 19:43 GMT
#70708
On August 11 2012 04:39 klogg wrote:
Hwayoung's career is done unless she somehow manages to joins back up with T-ara again.


That's an awful thing to think about, but if it means T-ara makes new music whatever.


On August 11 2012 04:44 Juliette wrote:

I've seen the light. Crayon Pop holy shit


Oh good, you're one of us now.
@Yulwell. Yuri "Always Smile" ~ Jessica Jung AYO GG
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
August 10 2012 19:44 GMT
#70709
On August 11 2012 03:10 seumdwa wrote:
Look at what came in the mail for me today. 9 albums for a total price of $123.54 including shipping. I got pretty lucky with this order and got 4 out of 4 for desired photocards; 2 of which were my first preference.
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
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My thoughts on the individual albums below.

+ Show Spoiler [4minute - Volume Up] +
Cube package is stellar as always. However, I hope the move away from the cardboard box packing style they used for this and Une Annee. My volume up box got fairly damaged during shipping. At least I got my first choice Gayoon photocard here.
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+ Show Spoiler [After School - Flashback] +
Overall, I'm pretty happy with this album. It has 2 separate photobooks with the one on the right being the released teaser photos. Nothing else to really say other than the girls are hot and look really good.
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+ Show Spoiler [After School - Red/Blue] +
These two together may be my second favorite out of the albums I bought. The paper quality feels really nice, and the photobooks have great pictures. I got my first choice Raina for the Blue members and my second choice Kahi for the Red members. I would have liked my favorite AS member, Jung Ah, for the Red photocard.
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+ Show Spoiler [BoA - Only One] +
To be honest, this is the most disappointing album out of all the albums I purchased. The photobook reeks of the typical SM "just enough effort" to not piss fans off. The photo quality of the album is rather grainy and poor while the actual content of the pictures themselves could have also been better. Many of the pictures aren't very clear and don't do even a decent job of showing off BoA's beauty.
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+ Show Spoiler [Dal Shabet - Bang Bang] +
The photobook for this album is probably the best of the nine. The quality of the paper is great and the photos are gorgeous. This is definitely a recommended buy for any Dal Shabet fans. I got the Subin photocard, which is my second preference; Serri being my first.
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+ Show Spoiler [Nine Muses - Sweet Rendezvous] +
This album has a really nice slide out design and comes with a nice photocard for every member. The overall packaging is really nice.
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+ Show Spoiler [NS Yoonji - Skinship] +
This is the only album that I took a risk on from this order. I buy albums purely based on the packaging quality and there were no unboxing videos for this album at the time I placed my order. However, I thought that there was no way that Yoonji could disappoint. It turns out that this was the correct assumption to make. The CD art is probably the best out of all the albums and the photocards are really nice.
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+ Show Spoiler [T-ara - Day By Day] +
I almost didn't buy this album because of the whole scandal situation, but I said fuck it and got it anyway. The photobook consists of really nice pictures from the music video set. I also really like the design they put on top of the CD.
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I just wanna show this love, good shit.

I've seen the light. Crayon Pop holy shit
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 10 2012 19:44 GMT
#70710
On August 11 2012 04:43 Jarzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 04:39 klogg wrote:
Hwayoung's career is done unless she somehow manages to joins back up with T-ara again.


That's an awful thing to think about, but if it means T-ara makes new music whatever.

I doubt T-ara are going to go ahead with their comeback in late august/september. Probably going to have to delay for a few months.
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
August 10 2012 19:47 GMT
#70711
I think it will depend on the press conferences some of them have in regards to their dramas. I don't know if they are forbidden from asking those questions or if they will anyway, but if it goes smoothly they might do their comeback as planned.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 10 2012 19:49 GMT
#70712
On August 11 2012 04:47 aloT wrote:
I think it will depend on the press conferences some of them have in regards to their dramas. I don't know if they are forbidden from asking those questions or if they will anyway, but if it goes smoothly they might do their comeback as planned.

Based on coverage of Haeundae Lovers I think it's died down some, there has been some "wtf why is Soyeon still in this drama" but there's also just a lot of discussion about how good/bad her acting is. I still think a full scale comeback is bigger than a bit acting role though and it'd be a big mistake to comeback so soon.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
August 10 2012 19:52 GMT
#70713
On August 11 2012 04:37 DystopiaX wrote:
^there are rappers out there less talented than those you named. It'd be like saying if you're not as talented or Adele or Beyonce you don't stand a chance at all, which obviously isn't true. They also don't need to write any of their shit themselves. That being said I'd personally have no interest in a Ryu twins group, and afaik Hyoyoung is still technically Co-Ed/5dolls.

Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 04:33 DwD wrote:
On August 11 2012 04:25 aloT wrote:
Hwayoung's career is over. There may be a small agency that will pick her up purely to snatch media attention but after that nothing. There may be some QUEENS who will try to support her but it will be out of pity, not because she is a top class artist/rapper.

If she was truely a talented/respected/recognised musician, the question would not be "will she succeed now?", but "which agency will she choose?", "will there be a bidding war?", "do you think she'll choose SM or JYP or YG?", "will she form her own agency?". This is the unfortunate truth.


Sorry this is not the truth at all. This is you guessing wildly . You don't know dick and no one does except for her and whoever she is talking to. She might even be already talking to other agencies!
My money is on that she'll rejoin T-ara. If not I don't see it being impossible that she would be able to go somewhere else and maybe even form a new group with a bunch of trainees. You don't know if tomorrow X member from popular group Y decides to retire and voila it just opened a rap spot.

Personally I don't think CCM would be able to backpedal and add her after all the shit they went through, but CCM has been retarded before so who knows. It's possible she joins a new group but personally I doubt it'll happen.


Why not? KKS even offered to backpedal himself if she apologized. They would earn brownie points with the fans for letting her back aswell and they could instantly resume their activities. I think the silence from all involving parties lets us know that they are talking in some manner at least to each other. What if they booked 3 weeks of group counseling and were just able to talk freely and get over all the shit they have against each other. I don't see this as being completely out of question.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
August 10 2012 19:53 GMT
#70714
On August 11 2012 04:49 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 04:47 aloT wrote:
I think it will depend on the press conferences some of them have in regards to their dramas. I don't know if they are forbidden from asking those questions or if they will anyway, but if it goes smoothly they might do their comeback as planned.

Based on coverage of Haeundae Lovers I think it's died down some, there has been some "wtf why is Soyeon still in this drama" but there's also just a lot of discussion about how good/bad her acting is. I still think a full scale comeback is bigger than a bit acting role though and it'd be a big mistake to comeback so soon.

we need a tl book club except for dramas

needa get to ep 2 of that soon.

Soyeon teeth very prominent
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
August 10 2012 19:58 GMT
#70715
On August 11 2012 04:52 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 04:37 DystopiaX wrote:
^there are rappers out there less talented than those you named. It'd be like saying if you're not as talented or Adele or Beyonce you don't stand a chance at all, which obviously isn't true. They also don't need to write any of their shit themselves. That being said I'd personally have no interest in a Ryu twins group, and afaik Hyoyoung is still technically Co-Ed/5dolls.

On August 11 2012 04:33 DwD wrote:
On August 11 2012 04:25 aloT wrote:
Hwayoung's career is over. There may be a small agency that will pick her up purely to snatch media attention but after that nothing. There may be some QUEENS who will try to support her but it will be out of pity, not because she is a top class artist/rapper.

If she was truely a talented/respected/recognised musician, the question would not be "will she succeed now?", but "which agency will she choose?", "will there be a bidding war?", "do you think she'll choose SM or JYP or YG?", "will she form her own agency?". This is the unfortunate truth.


Sorry this is not the truth at all. This is you guessing wildly . You don't know dick and no one does except for her and whoever she is talking to. She might even be already talking to other agencies!
My money is on that she'll rejoin T-ara. If not I don't see it being impossible that she would be able to go somewhere else and maybe even form a new group with a bunch of trainees. You don't know if tomorrow X member from popular group Y decides to retire and voila it just opened a rap spot.

Personally I don't think CCM would be able to backpedal and add her after all the shit they went through, but CCM has been retarded before so who knows. It's possible she joins a new group but personally I doubt it'll happen.


Why not? KKS even offered to backpedal himself if she apologized. They would earn brownie points with the fans for letting her back aswell and they could instantly resume their activities. I think the silence from all involving parties lets us know that they are talking in some manner at least to each other. What if they booked 3 weeks of group counseling and were just able to talk freely and get over all the shit they have against each other. I don't see this as being completely out of question.


afaik that offer was either a mistranslation or from the fake English twitter? I believe its been done and dusted now that Hwayoung will find her own yellow brick road. If by some wild series of events, or as dystopia calls CCM retardation Hwayoung returns, it will be with her head down low and not high.
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
August 10 2012 20:02 GMT
#70716
On August 11 2012 04:52 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 04:37 DystopiaX wrote:
^there are rappers out there less talented than those you named. It'd be like saying if you're not as talented or Adele or Beyonce you don't stand a chance at all, which obviously isn't true. They also don't need to write any of their shit themselves. That being said I'd personally have no interest in a Ryu twins group, and afaik Hyoyoung is still technically Co-Ed/5dolls.

On August 11 2012 04:33 DwD wrote:
On August 11 2012 04:25 aloT wrote:
Hwayoung's career is over. There may be a small agency that will pick her up purely to snatch media attention but after that nothing. There may be some QUEENS who will try to support her but it will be out of pity, not because she is a top class artist/rapper.

If she was truely a talented/respected/recognised musician, the question would not be "will she succeed now?", but "which agency will she choose?", "will there be a bidding war?", "do you think she'll choose SM or JYP or YG?", "will she form her own agency?". This is the unfortunate truth.


Sorry this is not the truth at all. This is you guessing wildly . You don't know dick and no one does except for her and whoever she is talking to. She might even be already talking to other agencies!
My money is on that she'll rejoin T-ara. If not I don't see it being impossible that she would be able to go somewhere else and maybe even form a new group with a bunch of trainees. You don't know if tomorrow X member from popular group Y decides to retire and voila it just opened a rap spot.

Personally I don't think CCM would be able to backpedal and add her after all the shit they went through, but CCM has been retarded before so who knows. It's possible she joins a new group but personally I doubt it'll happen.


Why not? KKS even offered to backpedal himself if she apologized. They would earn brownie points with the fans for letting her back aswell and they could instantly resume their activities. I think the silence from all involving parties lets us know that they are talking in some manner at least to each other. What if they booked 3 weeks of group counseling and were just able to talk freely and get over all the shit they have against each other. I don't see this as being completely out of question.

The thing that is out of the question is 5 of 6ara have made it quite clear they don't want her in the group by publicly mocking her on twitter. That type of animosity doesn't just disappear because it would be more convenient for the group's activities.

That and KKS trying to tar her name instead of working out something amicable adds up to, in my opinion, a situation that cannot be reversed.


It's the equivalent of keeping a marriage together for the sake of the kids, despite loathing the sight of each other. Not going to be a happy environment for anyone, especially not Hwayoung.
giesecke
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany361 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 20:33:59
August 10 2012 20:05 GMT
#70717
so, how do i do this

+ Show Spoiler +


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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 10 2012 20:05 GMT
#70718
On August 11 2012 04:53 Juliette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 04:49 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 11 2012 04:47 aloT wrote:
I think it will depend on the press conferences some of them have in regards to their dramas. I don't know if they are forbidden from asking those questions or if they will anyway, but if it goes smoothly they might do their comeback as planned.

Based on coverage of Haeundae Lovers I think it's died down some, there has been some "wtf why is Soyeon still in this drama" but there's also just a lot of discussion about how good/bad her acting is. I still think a full scale comeback is bigger than a bit acting role though and it'd be a big mistake to comeback so soon.

we need a tl book club except for dramas

needa get to ep 2 of that soon.

Soyeon teeth very prominent

Korean drama discussion?


On August 11 2012 04:52 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 04:37 DystopiaX wrote:
^there are rappers out there less talented than those you named. It'd be like saying if you're not as talented or Adele or Beyonce you don't stand a chance at all, which obviously isn't true. They also don't need to write any of their shit themselves. That being said I'd personally have no interest in a Ryu twins group, and afaik Hyoyoung is still technically Co-Ed/5dolls.

On August 11 2012 04:33 DwD wrote:
On August 11 2012 04:25 aloT wrote:
Hwayoung's career is over. There may be a small agency that will pick her up purely to snatch media attention but after that nothing. There may be some QUEENS who will try to support her but it will be out of pity, not because she is a top class artist/rapper.

If she was truely a talented/respected/recognised musician, the question would not be "will she succeed now?", but "which agency will she choose?", "will there be a bidding war?", "do you think she'll choose SM or JYP or YG?", "will she form her own agency?". This is the unfortunate truth.


Sorry this is not the truth at all. This is you guessing wildly . You don't know dick and no one does except for her and whoever she is talking to. She might even be already talking to other agencies!
My money is on that she'll rejoin T-ara. If not I don't see it being impossible that she would be able to go somewhere else and maybe even form a new group with a bunch of trainees. You don't know if tomorrow X member from popular group Y decides to retire and voila it just opened a rap spot.

Personally I don't think CCM would be able to backpedal and add her after all the shit they went through, but CCM has been retarded before so who knows. It's possible she joins a new group but personally I doubt it'll happen.


Why not? KKS even offered to backpedal himself if she apologized. They would earn brownie points with the fans for letting her back aswell and they could instantly resume their activities. I think the silence from all involving parties lets us know that they are talking in some manner at least to each other. What if they booked 3 weeks of group counseling and were just able to talk freely and get over all the shit they have against each other. I don't see this as being completely out of question.

Because KKS was trying everything under the sun to get people to calm down, but actually doing it would be dumb. people are already starting to stop talking about it, and adding her would just start controversy talks all over again. not to mention it would feel false knowing that 6-ara dislike if not hate her. Even if you add her back the controversy doesn't end, they don't gain anything.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
August 10 2012 20:06 GMT
#70719
--- Nuked ---
aquahobo
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom19 Posts
August 10 2012 20:07 GMT
#70720
On August 11 2012 04:53 Juliette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 04:49 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 11 2012 04:47 aloT wrote:
I think it will depend on the press conferences some of them have in regards to their dramas. I don't know if they are forbidden from asking those questions or if they will anyway, but if it goes smoothly they might do their comeback as planned.

Based on coverage of Haeundae Lovers I think it's died down some, there has been some "wtf why is Soyeon still in this drama" but there's also just a lot of discussion about how good/bad her acting is. I still think a full scale comeback is bigger than a bit acting role though and it'd be a big mistake to comeback so soon.

we need a tl book club except for dramas

needa get to ep 2 of that soon.

Soyeon teeth very prominent


http://www.t-araworld.net/2012/08/t-ara-soyeon-haeundae-lovers-episode-2.html
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