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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 04:44:25
July 30 2012 04:43 GMT
#67001
Not to add fuel to the speculation fire, but just to give the other girls a benefit of a doubt, couldn't it be possible that Hwayoung was under so much pressure recently perhaps and wanted to leave, and then despite encouragements from the rest of her groupmates, she still wanted out. This could have frustrated the rest of the members. Which led to all the "determination" tweets by Jiyeon, Eunjung and Hyomin.

I mean a lot of the bullying rumors have been really blown out of proportion, mostly just by pure speculation.

Either way, we'll never know the truth I guess.
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Kamatari
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 04:43:52
July 30 2012 04:43 GMT
#67002
damn hwayoung's is about to get 5k retweets within 5 minutes of the tweet
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 30 2012 04:45 GMT
#67003
On July 30 2012 13:43 pdd wrote:
Not to add fuel to the speculation fire, but just to give the other girls a benefit of a doubt, couldn't it be possible that Hwayoung was under so much pressure recently perhaps and wanted to leave, and then despite encouragements from the rest of her groupmates, she still wanted out. This could have frustrated the rest of the members. Which led to all the "determination" tweets by Jiyeon, Eunjung and Hyomin.

I mean a lot of the bullying rumors have been really blown out of proportion, mostly just by pure speculation.

Either way, we'll never know the truth I guess.

CCM brought it on themselves by saying the tweets were malicious and then coming up with such a dumb explanation. Had they not said anything people would be saying that the tweets were harsh, but not bullying.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
July 30 2012 04:46 GMT
#67004
On July 30 2012 13:42 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 13:37 Attican wrote:
Whatever actually happened it seems to me that they handled this really fucking badly.

It's CCM. Everything is handled badly.

^what else do you expect her to say? "Yeah,KKS told the truth, I'm actually a huge bitch to the staff"?
Not likely. Everyone is acting in their own best interest, will be impossible to tell what the truth is.

Yeah that's true, but with everything that's happened regarding this whole scenario, I think it's a bit more probable on Hwayoung's side.
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Attican
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark531 Posts
July 30 2012 04:46 GMT
#67005
Well either way I'm looking forward to the shocking behind-the-scenes tell-all book/interview/documentary/whatever that this is all perfect material for.
Kamatari
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 04:49:14
July 30 2012 04:48 GMT
#67006
On July 30 2012 13:43 pdd wrote:
Not to add fuel to the speculation fire, but just to give the other girls a benefit of a doubt, couldn't it be possible that Hwayoung was under so much pressure recently perhaps and wanted to leave, and then despite encouragements from the rest of her groupmates, she still wanted out. This could have frustrated the rest of the members. Which led to all the "determination" tweets by Jiyeon, Eunjung and Hyomin.

I mean a lot of the bullying rumors have been really blown out of proportion, mostly just by pure speculation.

Either way, we'll never know the truth I guess.

or maybe she was bullied for 2 years and got sick and tired of it and getting bullied while having an injured leg was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Hwayoung then wanted out of the group. Other members found out about it, instead of being nice to her they teased her with those determination tweets.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
July 30 2012 04:48 GMT
#67007
Poll: Reaction to Hwayoung's removal?

Unhappy she's gone (83)
 
54%

Neutral (36)
 
24%

Happy she's gone (34)
 
22%

153 total votes

Your vote: Reaction to Hwayoung's removal?

(Vote): Happy she's gone
(Vote): Unhappy she's gone
(Vote): Neutral

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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 30 2012 04:50 GMT
#67008
good riddance.

when are dani and ahreum going to get kicked?
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Radioman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada904 Posts
July 30 2012 04:50 GMT
#67009
I don't know how to answer that poll.

If she was actually being bullied and wanted out good for her.

If CCM wanted to just kick her out, sucks for her.

The question is what will happen to Hwayoung? Will she join another group and strive and continue on being the same girl I saw in T-ara? Poll is too early to answer. I wish her the best.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 04:50:58
July 30 2012 04:50 GMT
#67010
KMD real F5 fest. 22 votes in <60 seconds. 5 in <10.
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Kamatari
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 04:51:59
July 30 2012 04:51 GMT
#67011
i voted neutral because its not really a detailed question.
I'm happy that shes out of the group because she wont get bullied by the t-ara members
Demizzle
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia397 Posts
July 30 2012 04:51 GMT
#67012
This poll is kinda ambiguous. People happy she's gone because they don't like her or because she isn't supposedly suffering anymore?

On a lighter note, apparently even Robbie Williams is hip with the international PSY trend
http://www.robbiewilliams.com/news-blogs/trying-to-figure-out-which-tracks-stay-the-album
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 04:53:06
July 30 2012 04:52 GMT
#67013
'cause I'm polling whether you're for, against, or neutral to the fact that she is no longer in T-ara. I am not polling whether you think she was removed for a good reason or even if you believe CCM (does anyone?).

This poll is kinda ambiguous. People happy she's gone because they don't like her or because she isn't supposedly suffering anymore?

It doesn't matter. Both are the same end choice.
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Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
July 30 2012 04:53 GMT
#67014
On July 30 2012 13:50 andyrau wrote:
ahreum going to get kicked?


whoa what are you doing?
ASie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States777 Posts
July 30 2012 04:54 GMT
#67015
On July 30 2012 13:45 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 13:43 pdd wrote:
Not to add fuel to the speculation fire, but just to give the other girls a benefit of a doubt, couldn't it be possible that Hwayoung was under so much pressure recently perhaps and wanted to leave, and then despite encouragements from the rest of her groupmates, she still wanted out. This could have frustrated the rest of the members. Which led to all the "determination" tweets by Jiyeon, Eunjung and Hyomin.

I mean a lot of the bullying rumors have been really blown out of proportion, mostly just by pure speculation.

Either way, we'll never know the truth I guess.

CCM brought it on themselves by saying the tweets were malicious and then coming up with such a dumb explanation. Had they not said anything people would be saying that the tweets were harsh, but not bullying.

This. If CCM didn't say shit, none of the members would even look that bad. Personally, this situation doesn't really change my stance on any of them because who the hell knows what the truth is, so I'm just going to overlook this situation and conclude that CCM still sucks.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 30 2012 04:54 GMT
#67016
On July 30 2012 13:53 Pulselol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 13:50 andyrau wrote:
ahreum going to get kicked?


whoa what are you doing?

I'd be fine with it if they gave Ahreum a Qri role, but if she gets all Hwa's parts then I'd rather not cause I like Ham and Hyo rapping
seumdwa
Profile Joined June 2011
United States133 Posts
July 30 2012 04:55 GMT
#67017
I'm happy that she's gone since CCM is the worst management company. I have never seen huge PR fuckups anywhere else. However, I'm unhappy with the way they decided to just trash her in attempt to save a sinking ship.
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aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
July 30 2012 04:57 GMT
#67018
well now that CCM have scapegoated the staff and specified the number it will be only a matter of time before one of them falls under the impending pressure of the netizen army and saesangs and media trying to find out the true story.

this is also going to severely hurt t-ara's broadcast time, as there will no doubt be a "dont talk hwayoung" clause asked to tv producers.
PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
July 30 2012 04:57 GMT
#67019
Well, she can at least tell her side of the story (unless she signed a contract or something, in which case she wouldn't even have the right to say "Facts that have no truth").
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 04:57:54
July 30 2012 04:57 GMT
#67020
This doesn't even in the top 1,000 of bad PR moves.

On July 30 2012 13:57 PatouPower wrote:
Well, she can at least tell her side of the story (unless she signed a contract or something, in which case she wouldn't even have the right to say "Facts that have no truth").

Wouldn't be so sure about that. Maybe years down the road.
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