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and @ Vorgrim..........Willing to bet 100$ youve never played guitar
I have 3 guitars.
lucky i crossed my fingers when i made the bet
do you at least respect what they did for music?
Ofc, they were a great band. It was more a general observation on your motivations for enjoying music than a stab at Led Zep. I will say they did blatantly steal a lot of their melodies and tried to pass it off as their own work (I remember reading they were constantly in court), but in terms of actual performance they were top notch. All great musicians who put on a stellar show.
Some kpop to go with the tangent. A track from Gumiho which I recently rewatched.
and @ Vorgrim..........Willing to bet 100$ youve never played guitar
I have 3 guitars.
lucky i crossed my fingers when i made the bet
do you at least respect what they did for music?
Ofc, they were a great band. It was more a general observation on your motivations for enjoying music than a stab at Led Zep. I will say they did blatantly steal a lot of their melodies and tried to pass it off as their own work (I remember reading they were constantly in court), but in terms of actual performance they were top notch. All great musicians who put on a stellar show.
On July 12 2012 08:12 hyszlan wrote: @DystopiaX, Correct me if im wrong but changing the artist behind a certain song, actually makes it sound different and because of that the level of enjoyment will inevitably change. If its not a case where it actually happens to sound EXACTLY the same which I dont think siamese twins could pull off.
lets say, remove Hyorin from SISTAR, would you still enjoy their actual songs just as much?
I'd enjoy the visuals more.
fucking lol
On July 12 2012 09:30 Requizen wrote: Here's my take on it (long car ride gave me time to think).
I do like the music, but the idols give a lot to the experience as well. Western pop is catchy enough, musically, but the pop scene makes me hate it. It's associated heavily with clubs and the type debauchery that I don't partake in. The girls that sing are almost all slutty and/or annoying (a few exceptions, of course), and the guys are always over-feminine or douche-y. And the content of the songs are usually horrid, always about getting smashed, hooking up with strangers, and other such amoral annoyances that I hate in society.
Kpop has been different experience. The idols (at least most of them/the ones I follow) give off a more wholesome vibe than, say, Ke$ha or Britney Spears (does she still sing? Who cares). They're really idols, meant to give off an air of someone to be idolized and who are respectful. Even if it's just an act, it's a good one, and one I can enjoy. The music, as well, generally is less about sex, drugs, and the glamorous lifestyle that Western pop worships and I hate. Instead, you get a lot of cute love songs and fun things, as well as amazing ballads. I actually like looking up translations just to enjoy the content of the music I listen to.
So yeah, it's about half and half, idols to music. I'd probably enjoy the same music if it was in English, sung by an American group who had the same personas as the Korean groups, but there's really not that many (or any at all) like that.
pretty much this, except for the western pop. It's both trashy and really fucking bad. a lot of kpop sounds like a throwback to the late 90s/early 00s, which I really enjoyed.
@DystopiaX, Correct me if im wrong but changing the artist behind a certain song, actually makes it sound different and because of that the level of enjoyment will inevitably change. If its not a case where it actually happens to sound EXACTLY the same which I dont think siamese twins could pull off.
lets say, remove Hyorin from SISTAR, would you still enjoy their actual songs just as much?
I'd enjoy the visuals more.
fucking lol
oooh woops thats awkward.....i always found hyorin to be the most attractive out of all of them...is there something wrong with me?
@DystopiaX, Correct me if im wrong but changing the artist behind a certain song, actually makes it sound different and because of that the level of enjoyment will inevitably change. If its not a case where it actually happens to sound EXACTLY the same which I dont think siamese twins could pull off.
lets say, remove Hyorin from SISTAR, would you still enjoy their actual songs just as much?
I'd enjoy the visuals more.
fucking lol
oooh woops thats awkward.....i always found hyorin to be the most attractive out of all of them...is there something wrong with me?
On July 12 2012 06:33 DystopiaX wrote: ^dude totally with the tongue out. If you want me to bring up a "kidol selcas of women sucking and or licking food objects" picspam, I can, but it's totally unnecessary cause it happens all the time.
On July 12 2012 06:28 firehand101 wrote:
On July 12 2012 06:25 DystopiaX wrote: I have. I don't give a fuck what he thinks, I still like the music more than I like artificially crafted personalities.
And I'm saying there is absolutely no problem with that!
But I just want you to know Korean Pop is built for the artists first, thats all
Sure. Monetarily, you craft an artist's image because that's what's gonna sell your albums, get your endorsement deals, whatever. But you focus on music quality because regardless of what you think a lot of Koreans just don't give much of a fuck about kpop, just like most americans don't give a fuck about western pop.
So yes, having a clean image is what's making you the money, but saying music takes a backseat isn't really accurate at all.
And what do you mean by most dont.....last time i checked 'Super Bass' had almost 270 million views.....
No one genre of music is going to capture a whole nation, but wouldn't you say that pop influences the largest portion in our modern era as opposed to any other style?
And, really if you paid attention to the video and not had such a negative attitude, you would know music quality comes second, because to survive they have to market the star
What part of "To get the money they craft personalities" does not sound like "to survive the have to market the star" to you? Really? Come on.
And I cannot emphasize this enough STOP FUCKING USING YOUTUBE VIEWS IN YOUR ARGUMENT. THEY DON'T MEAN SHIT.
270 million views DOES NOT mean 270 million people. It means significantly less than that, actually, because some people watch the videos again and again. Ever go to a kpop artists' mv? You know what the top comment usually is? No? It's "HEY GUYS KEEP THIS VIDEO ON LOOP SO SUPER JUNIOR OPPAS WILL BE NUMBER 1 IN VIEWS ON YOUTUBE! LIKE IF YOU AGREE <3 <3 <3"
And I wouldn't say most influential, unless most influential means that your music is always kind of in the background but only fully appreciated by a tiny group of people.
On July 12 2012 06:39 Sableyeah wrote: I saw Racegirls + Show Spoiler +
So OP
<3 you. For the record, Ryu Ji Hye is my favorite.
EPT
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