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klibrt

United States533 Posts

May 28 2012 23:20 GMT

#57901

On May 29 2012 06:03 DwD wrote:
No one can dig up some info for me on Lee Soo Ah?

Maybe my last post got buried or did you all ignore me? T_T

Uh... I tried searching in google... then naver... then daum... Nothing much came up.. just some blogs and her album. :/

uh and no one has an jpopsuki invite for me?

i'll seed

Pros

219 Posts

May 28 2012 23:40 GMT

#57902

On May 29 2012 08:20 klibrt wrote:

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Uh... I tried searching in google... then naver... then daum... Nothing much came up.. just some blogs and her album. :/

uh and no one has an jpopsuki invite for me?

i'll seed

i want an invite too if anyone is feeling nice :D

Craton

United States17233 Posts

May 28 2012 23:56 GMT

#57903

PM me with an email for an invite. If you have a low post count and/or I don't recognize you, I'm not giving you one.

AmazYn

United States1 Post

May 28 2012 23:57 GMT

#57904

I've been wanting to buy some cd's and posters but not sure where to buy them or what place is the best. Where do you guys usually buy your stuff?

Murdco

United States745 Posts

May 29 2012 00:12 GMT

#57905

http://www.yesasia.com/us/en/korean-music.html there for music and posters, posters on ebay also and some stuff is in Itunes but not much

Pulselol

Canada1628 Posts

May 29 2012 00:30 GMT

#57906

EVERYDAY, MINAH'S DAY

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Hall0wed

United States8486 Posts

May 29 2012 00:31 GMT

#57907

This ebay store is pretty good. They are good with shipping if you buy multiple things.

http://stores.ebay.com/ajoutool/K-POP-/_i.html?_fsub=1536609013&_sid=851356233&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

On May 29 2012 03:38 Aiyu wrote:

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From what I've seen since the early 1000 pages or so, the flow of this thread is mainly dictated by just a few people.. Saying "we are the true face of kpop worldwide" sounds quite pretentious if I may say so myself.

No look you made an account just to chat with us. We are the world's forum.

Purpl3

United States1067 Posts

May 29 2012 01:02 GMT

#57908

On May 29 2012 09:31 Hall0wed wrote:
This ebay store is pretty good. They are good with shipping if you buy multiple things.

http://stores.ebay.com/ajoutool/K-POP-/_i.html?_fsub=1536609013&_sid=851356233&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

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No look you made an account just to chat with us. We are the world's forum.

I made my account just to talk to you qtpie.

Fawkes

Canada1935 Posts

May 29 2012 01:08 GMT

#57909

On May 29 2012 10:02 Purpl3 wrote:

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I made my account just to talk to you qtpie.

I made my account to trash talk you.

Woops, forgot to add qtpie.

As I do not want to be responsible for people's phones and cheap laptops exploding, click at your own risk.

http://i.minus.com/iBsTpjk4p6c9c.jpg

DystopiaX

United States16236 Posts

May 29 2012 01:13 GMT

#57910

On May 28 2012 22:02 oniontaker wrote:

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On May 28 2012 05:27 DystopiaX wrote:

On May 28 2012 00:21 Waterhaak wrote:

On May 27 2012 20:03 DystopiaX wrote:

On May 27 2012 19:50 firehand101 wrote:
Lol the performances are all blocked now T_T

And also, my original favourite band has been SS501 as they are the ones that got me into Kpop via 'love like this'

But now after experiencing virtually every top class Kpop group/artist there is, i think i have decided my favourite. It is....

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TVXQ! I just think all of their songs are so well written and performed. But can anyone help me understand their history a bit? it is really confusing. From what i understand, 3 members left because their contract was too long?

Cause SM sucks, yeah. Something about money, also their contract was 12 years or something like that, which is ridiculous.

Now SM are being dicks and preventing them from appearing on broadcast TV using their pull.

All the information I've seen about this suggests that greed on JYJ's part was the cause of the break up. And obviously SM, as well as everyone else in the industry are going to prevent them from appearing, it could cause serious damage to the way agencies work nowadays.

If a group can break away from their agency and still be fully operational, it's likely others will follow.

This is highly subjective, but I think working for SM is probably one of the best options you have as an idol.

I don't want to go too deep into this, simply because I lack the knowledge and time but if you really want to learn more I suggest reading trough this, http://oniontaker.com/tagged/jyj and judge for yourself.

I fail to see how, worst contracts out of any agency, also onion is both not very credible and a sm fanboy.

Sm pays you the least money and forces you to stay the longest. Sure they have the most pull but you're not necessarily going to benefit.

I also fail to see how jyjs greed was at fault when the courts have agreed that their contracts and treatment was unethical, and that sm also has to stop cockblocking them.

To suggest that anyone other than sm and maybe the rest of the big 3 care about preventing jyj from performing is ridiculous, especially if you're a tv station like kbs or whatever because you know a jyj appearance will boost ratings like no other performer could.

Edit- reading 3 of those onion posts just confirmed that he doesn't know what he's talking about. Contradicting facts and actual credible sources, sounds like an idiot.

Actually lol'd at the ignorance. But kewl.

Who said greed was at fault? It was the main motivator, that's the issue here. It's no fault to want the best for yourself, it's simply that JYJ overestimated the support they would have, or rather underestimated the hostility they would face, once they took legal action to break the contract instead of dealing with it in-house.

Almost any group could take their company to court and technically win in legal terms.
Whether the industry will accept them back is another issue altogether.

With the eye of the government on them from as early as 2008 (as a market leader in a growing prestige export industry), SM have had to change their ways a lot internally. To say that they are worse than DSP, CCM and many smaller agencies that are completely unregulated is just silly. I've seen musicians contracts with income splits as bad as 18

2 and that's just the ones I know about.

And about KBS, they're not just any other TV station. It's the closest thing to state-owned major media that Korea has.
Idiot? lol.

I don't feel like continuing this discussion because it won't get anyone anywhere, so just clarifying a few things:

I feel like you feel like I was replying to you (confusing I know lol) but all of that other than the edit was directed at Waterhaak, who clearly stated "Greed on JYJ's part was the cause of the breakup". I agree with what you said above, although if I were in their shoes and I'd still have done the split, you don't get on TV for performances but you're still huge and make bank and aren't required to stay with SM for 13 years (a contract which is both excessive and, contrary to what you seem to imply in your post, is not typical in the industry). But that's irrelevant anyway...

I also fail to see how CCM is a "small" agency- as a subsidiary of Mnet I'd argue they're pretty big. It's the parent company and not whatever the subcompany decides to call itself that counts.

Also I used KBS as a random name for an example of a TV station/content distributor. Either way the fact that they're government owned (which I was aware of) is irrelevant for the purpose of my example. The whole KBS thing was directed at the dude I was replying to anyway, who implied that the industry as a whole had motivation to cockblock JYJ.

Although I can't claim to have "contacts" like you, I don't think the ratio you described is atypical even for Western artists, for album sales at least. (the difference being ofc that western artists get far more of the pie in endorsement deals and shit like that). But that's irrelevant anyway. I'm not going to pretend that any idol company gives you a favorable contract cause they're all terrible. Just that if it were up to me I wouldn't sign with SM.

And I still disagree with your blog posts.

edit- @new guy/hallowed/purpl3- Not sure I'd want to be the world representative of Kpop anyway. At least foreign kpop, cause everything I've seen of it outside of this thread and like 2 IRL friends foreign kpop is comprised of annoying teenage girls and/or mentally deficient people.

@pulse- can't recognize Minah when sh'es not trying to make her eyes look as small as possible, or, as they call it "eyesmiling".

Moonwrath

United States9568 Posts

May 29 2012 01:51 GMT

#57911

On May 29 2012 05:40 oniontaker wrote:

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True story. I hear Sunny is mad that Jon is cheating on her.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

I will go back to Sunny, her smile is impossible to resist

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Pulselol

Canada1628 Posts

May 29 2012 02:16 GMT

#57912

On May 29 2012 10:13 DystopiaX wrote:
@pulse- can't recognize Minah when sh'es not trying to make her eyes look as small as possible, or, as they call it "eyesmiling".

minah has the best eyesmile bro

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