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Hall0wed

United States8486 Posts

January 22 2012 11:13 GMT

#45381

You're the man Fox for always posting those btw.

Juliette

United States6003 Posts

January 22 2012 11:16 GMT

#45382

is it wrong that i like to watch shows in order of how the show played them?

although the channel doesn't really have them in that order :>

wtf 2ne1's outfits

although everyone seems to look relatively conservative...

edit: fuck yeah the 2ne1 ones have Jihye dancing :D

TuElite

Canada2123 Posts

January 22 2012 12:19 GMT

#45383

So, let me get this straight, because some obscure city wins the next winter Olympics I get no Nicole MC'ing Inkigayo ? Talk about ruining the fun. I'm sure the people in the voting committee would have voted otherwise if they knew this would happen. T_T

Craton

United States17303 Posts

January 22 2012 12:25 GMT

#45384

You poor thing. Have some Nicole.

+ Show Spoiler +

Just Kidding. HSY and Hara are better. #SaltInWound

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andyrau

13015 Posts

January 22 2012 12:28 GMT

#45385

why did seunghee have to fail her entrance exams t.t
Kara could've been THE girl group. finkl successor egpg

TuElite

Canada2123 Posts

January 22 2012 13:00 GMT

#45386

Well played sir Craton.
+ Show Spoiler [Claim your reward] +

You thought I was going to post some Nicole didn't you ?
+ Show Spoiler [metagame'd you son] +

We must go even deeper.

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On January 22 2012 21:28 andyrau wrote:
Kara could've been THE girl group. finkl successor egpg

Agreed, she was a really great singer and beautiful too, lots of potential. Without her and with Hara and Jiyoung they have no credibility as singers.

On January 22 2012 21:28 andyrau wrote:
why did seunghee have to fail her entrance exams t.t

Maybe because she was being slaved, singing and dancing 12 hours a day for less than minimum wage with no apparent form of success in sight. Can't really blame her.

+ Show Spoiler [Kara] +

lol I find it funny when they lip-sing 3/4 and actually sing 1/4 of the song and it suddenly gets munch louder. Call me crazy but I kinda like it lol, makes you anticipate the singing lol and appreciate it when they actually try. Also sometimes I don't understand when/why they choose to lip-sing or actually sing, for instance, at 1:20, Nicole's part is fairly easy and not demanding and not too munch dancing has been done so she shouldn't be out of breathe and could sing that part however she clearly stops midway through. And just before that at 1:17, Jiyoung actually sings while she's out of breathe and end up sounding pretty bad.

Also, someone had to post that Gyuri was filming something during the recording for me to notice that she wasn't there lol. That's either telling on how munch she has no stage presence or how munch Nicole is too good and captivates the audience <3.

Timurid

Guyana (French)656 Posts

January 22 2012 15:30 GMT

#45387

How much do Kpop idols get paid for various perfs.and music sales. Also, i went to diadem site a few days ago. I saw that they started up a donation to get food on the set of Jiyeon's new movie. I never heard of any movie set that doesn't have caterer nonetheless starting up donation to give them food. Are the production companies that poor or is it just abunch of crazy fans wanting to give everything to their idol? Man i feel dumbfounded.

TuElite

Canada2123 Posts

January 22 2012 15:39 GMT

#45388

They barely get paid if they're not in the top 10 most popular groups however they do have food... Kara-t did the same when KARA had their comeback, they actually bought food for the entire staff as well as KARA. KARAholic always raise funds to buy gifts for the girl's birthdays. It's just as a gift. Tho Offering food has more significance in Korean culture than in Western culture. I wouldn't say the fans are crazy, they are just caring and have good intentions. If a fan site has say 5k + members it's really easy to raise money if everyone chips in a little 5 to 10$. Most sites rely on the member's donations to pay for web hosting and keep the site up as well.

Woorior

60 Posts

January 22 2012 17:39 GMT

#45389

Kekekeke, more Naeun.
Includes pits.. if people are into that..

+ Show Spoiler +

Enjoy.

nanashin

United States1584 Posts

January 22 2012 17:42 GMT

#45390

On January 23 2012 00:30 Timurid wrote:
How much do Kpop idols get paid for various perfs.and music sales.+ Show Spoiler +

Also, i went to diadem site a few days ago. I saw that they started up a donation to get food on the set of Jiyeon's new movie. I never heard of any movie set that doesn't have caterer nonetheless starting up donation to give them food. Are the production companies that poor or is it just abunch of crazy fans wanting to give everything to their idol? Man i feel dumbfounded.

Music sales isn't anything to write home about.
Albums sales pay off either a negligible lump sum after a target amount sold or a slim percentage per album.
Digital sales, which is becoming predominant, is a ripe dicking. Let's take an itunes price scheme and broke it down for a kpop idol. 99 cents for a song, 50 cents go to the distributor that the managing label approached to have it inserted into the internet, 40 cents goes to the managing label, 3 cents goes to one artist union, 3 cents to one other, the idol receives the remainder.
Thing is Koreans don't use itunes, they rely on melon, soribada, etc. These digital distributors approach sells far different from itunes for a sum of money paid a subscriber receives a fixed amount of mp3s, be they old or the most recent releases, i.e 30 songs for 10 usd, 100 songs for 20 usd, etc. Looking at a few coins per song sold, the idol(s) receiving a percentage of one of those coins.

Stage performances offer a few thousand USD per, don't remember if that gets percentaged away to the management, the crew, and backup dancers.

darkcloud8282

Canada776 Posts

January 22 2012 17:50 GMT

#45391

On January 23 2012 00:30 Timurid wrote:
How much do Kpop idols get paid for various perfs.and music sales. Also, i went to diadem site a few days ago. I saw that they started up a donation to get food on the set of Jiyeon's new movie. I never heard of any movie set that doesn't have caterer nonetheless starting up donation to give them food. Are the production companies that poor or is it just abunch of crazy fans wanting to give everything to their idol? Man i feel dumbfounded.

Majority of their income comes from sponsorships and ads they take part in.. the rest is almost negligible in comparison

Moonwrath

United States9568 Posts

January 22 2012 17:59 GMT

#45392

On January 23 2012 02:39 Woorior wrote:
Kekekeke, more Naeun.
Includes pits.. if people are into that..

+ Show Spoiler +

Enjoy.

oh god, this is good

TuElite

Canada2123 Posts

January 22 2012 19:03 GMT

#45393

(WARNING DO NOT OPEN ON PHONES)+ Show Spoiler [MORE DIABOLIQUE] +

He is sooooooooo good what the hell, DSP needs to hire him.

So good, this stuff like a drug, can u feel the high now ? I think ima overdose and pass out. And when I wake up I'm pretty sure some of these gonna end up as my SC2 backgrounds.

StyLeD

United States2965 Posts

January 22 2012 19:56 GMT

#45394

That's a lotta pictures. I've never even heard of em...

HaXXspetten

Sweden15718 Posts

January 22 2012 19:59 GMT

#45395

Those are undeniably some top class pics.

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

January 22 2012 20:01 GMT

#45396

To be fair, unless you are Justin Bieber, actually selling music doesnt make you any money in America either. Its the ability to sell concert tickets for 300 bucks and t-shirts for 50 that actually make artists money these days.

Although my understanding is that unlike in America, Korean labels actually get a cut of performance $, so I imagine they manage to dick the bands over there.