Korean Music Discussion - Page 2038

On December 08 2011 14:01 0123456789 wrote:
My first thoughts to Soyeon being leader is, why the fuck wasn't she made leader sooner..... She or Eunjung are the only ones capable, Eunjung only because she's part of the original group. And then the next thing is hahahahahahah to all T-ara fans. One day Hwayoung gonna be leader, unless they kick her out before that.

Kim Young Min recently appeared on a Japanese show and shared his perspective. He's very fluent in Japanese.

Here is an outline of some things discussed:
Kpop artist train from 4 to 7 years before their debut at a cost of $20,000~$40,000 year each. The auditions are held around the world and those that make the first cut are brought to Korea to train and live in dorms. This is to train a high level of singing and dance skills, but more importantly, to train to behave and speak like a star from when they debut. This is reflected by what Korean fans expect from their IDOLS. Koreans think of IDOLS as someone to look up to, some one of greatness. In contrast, Japan considers IDOLS as amateurs in training to become celebrates. That is why Japan puts very little effort in training their IDOLS. People want to watch their favorite IDOLS develop over the years and graduate into celebrates. In other words, once an idol develops what it takes to be a star, they graduate from being a teen IDOL, and move on as real singers or actors.

The other part is about world marketing. Kpop is actively researching the world thru the internet and other means to see potential markets and adjust to such markets. SM for example actively uses YouTube to promote their artist and videos. They also use the Youtube stats to find where Kpop is popular and where kpop is growing. Mr. Kim attributes the big success of their Kpop concert in Paris and the SNSD debut in Japan to their YouTube promotions. Another example of researching markets is the Japanese Vs Korean version of Gee. All kinds of details like clothing, hairstyle and dance was adjusted for each countries debut. The reason why SM looks to the world market is because the Korean music industry is small. As a company seeking profit, they have no choice but to sell over seas if they want to grow. Japan on the other hand, has a huge domestic market. All concerts over seas are for PR purposes to thank their over seas fans. In actuality, the same concert held in Japan would make 20 to 30 times more money. So, from a business point of view, it would be stupid to waste time promoting Jpop over seas until a ceiling is hit. When the number of concerts an artist can perform a year is more than the demands for concerts in japan, then Japan's music and entertainment industry will actively target over seas markets.

Mr. Kims final point. even though SMTown is a Korean media company with Kpop artist right now, at heart, SMTown is a company just like Sony. He sees beyond Kpop and wants to be a dominant force in the world market. For example, when Kpop artist SNSD sings Gee in Japanese are they singing Kpop? It's actually Jpop by definition. For Mr. Kim it doesn't matter who sings what song in what language as long as the artist is signed to his company and he can maximize that artists sales.

Just as Sony Entertainment has nothing to do with Japanese entertainment, SMTown might go global and Kpop might become just one small part of their entire music empire.

On December 08 2011 14:21 Seeker wrote:
Can I ask you guys something?

Is it possible that we could separate the content in this thread to 2 separate threads?

One titled:
Korean Music Discussion

and the other titled:
Korean Idols Discussion

Mainly because:
I am someone who comes in to this thread looking for new and exciting music that have been released. But most of the time I find like 1 page of new music discussion, followed by 6 pages of pictures, then followed by 1 page of music discussion, followed by like 7 pages of pictures.

Idk.... it's just really frustrating for me because this thread was originally created for discussing Korean Music and it seems to have developed into "post your favorite idols here and we will all give u our insights" thread.....

Not trying to troll or anything here beacause I LOVE Kpop...... I just don't like that I have to search so hard to find some because most of the pages are filled with pics of everyon'e favorite singer and not the actual music.

So is it possible? Can we get 2 threads going?

On December 08 2011 14:21 Seeker wrote:
Can I ask you guys something?

Is it possible that we could separate the content in this thread to 2 separate threads?

One titled:
Korean Music Discussion

and the other titled:
Korean Idols Discussion

Mainly because:
I am someone who comes in to this thread looking for new and exciting music that have been released. But most of the time I find like 1 page of new music discussion, followed by 6 pages of pictures, then followed by 1 page of music discussion, followed by like 7 pages of pictures.

Idk.... it's just really frustrating for me because this thread was originally created for discussing Korean Music and it seems to have developed into "post your favorite idols here and we will all give u our insights" thread.....

Not trying to troll or anything here beacause I LOVE Kpop...... I just don't like that I have to search so hard to find some because most of the pages are filled with pics of everyone's favorite singer and not the actual music.

So is it possible? Can we get 2 threads going?

On December 08 2011 14:33 Seeker wrote:


Oh.... I wasn't aware that we had a discussion like this previously. If u don't mind me asking, could you link me to the discussion? I am intrigued to see what kind of responses people gave.