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Fawkes
Canada1935 Posts
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Waterhaak
Netherlands525 Posts
Oh and Soshi fighting, Best Female Group and Artist of the Year! | ||
konadora
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Singapore66163 Posts
On November 30 2011 01:00 Lyter wrote: B2ST winning best dance with Fiction is just one of the awards I think was wrong. Now I'm a big B2ST fan, and I think they definitely should have won something, probably best song overall tbh, but Fiction wasn't a particularly dancey song if you know what I mean, it was a bit of foot shuffling for the most part. Based on the nominations, I don't think you can really look anywhere other than Infinite or TVXQ, the others just weren't very dancey lol. And I won't even talk about artist of the year lol, SNSD winning after their worst ever promotion? K brah. the winners are based on number of votes, right? | ||
unichan
United States4223 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On November 30 2011 01:12 konadora wrote: the winners are based on number of votes, right? no, judging and a variety of other factors too, there is a chart that someone posted what its about. anyway MAMA is a bit shady so I wouldn't take too much at face value. | ||
nanashin
United States1584 Posts
On November 30 2011 01:03 Fawkes wrote: i still think Athena OST is better than Secret Gardens after listening to both repeatedly. I agree. Jang Jae In definitely gave Baek Ji Young a run for her money, there is a crazy amount of soulfulness in that voice of hers. - ![]() Cass looks like real tasty beer. | ||
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konadora
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Singapore66163 Posts
On November 30 2011 01:13 unichan wrote: Good thing I went into this with low expectations lol, 2NE1 is my second favorite group but if they won, they should've won in some categories over the ones they did win. I like Bom + Minzy's voices a lot, but best vocals is LOL. But A Pink, Beast hwaiting ![]() lol park bom has amazing voice what are you talking about ![]() | ||
unichan
United States4223 Posts
On November 30 2011 01:26 konadora wrote: lol park bom has amazing voice what are you talking about ![]() I'm saying that she does, but it doesn't beat Davichi's or 2AM's, especially considering the types of the songs each of the groups perform D: | ||
Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On November 30 2011 00:37 DystopiaX wrote: It's not best musical style it's best vocals. Who sings the best. 2ne1 sucks live, autotunes most of their songs. Admittedly the songs where they do sing they're better than most idol groups, but there's no way you can possibly say that they sing better than 2am or Davichi, whose whole concepts are that they're ballad groups. Their entire reason for existence is that they sing well. edit- @NB you are aware that English is an official language of Singapore and that it's either the first or second language of 80% of the people there, right? Stop making assumptions. They won best group vocal performance, not best singers. If the award is supposed to be given to who sings the best, then 2NE1 shouldn't win, but the title of the award was best group vocals. Vocals isn't just singing. If it was just for best singer you are excluding all rappers/rapping, meaning something like Sistar19 shouldn't even be nominated because their 'group' performance only includes only one person singing, and Bora rapping. | ||
sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
On November 30 2011 00:48 konadora wrote: most of us were like, "well i've heard of them but i don't really know who they are. but this isn't too bad" definitely no connection to kpop, but most of us here living in singapore (edited, since i'm not singaporean lol) generally listen to more than just kpop lol there were some ppl singing/rapping along to them in fact :o over at the terrace there's a lot of blank stare though, mostly from those young girls that screamed like hell when Super Junior/Beast performed lucky I bring my earphone along today | ||
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Singapore66163 Posts
On November 30 2011 01:31 unichan wrote: I'm saying that she does, but it doesn't beat Davichi's or 2AM's, especially considering the types of the songs each of the groups perform D: ahhh yeah i get what you mean i'm genuinely happy that 2NE1 got that award, but deep down i feel that either of those two should have won instead (i support 2AM more though, cus of kwonnie lol) | ||
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Singapore66163 Posts
On November 30 2011 01:37 sandyph wrote: over at the terrace there's a lot of blank stare though, mostly from those young girls that screamed like hell when Super Junior/Beast performed lucky I bring my earphone along today lol i guess the people standing were enthusiastic :p | ||
unichan
United States4223 Posts
On November 30 2011 01:39 konadora wrote: ahhh yeah i get what you mean i'm genuinely happy that 2NE1 got that award, but deep down i feel that either of those two should have won instead (i support 2AM more though, cus of kwonnie lol) Ye, I wouldn't preferred they won best female group over snsd and had davichi/2am take that group x] | ||
Taku
Canada2036 Posts
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KroplaBeskidu
1093 Posts
On November 30 2011 01:00 Lyter wrote:And I won't even talk about artist of the year lol, SNSD winning after their worst ever promotion? K brah. but whatever, just wanted to say whatever way you look at it supposing that's their very worst, well only thing that shows is how far ahead of the competition they really are | ||
DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On November 30 2011 01:00 Lyter wrote: B2ST winning best dance with Fiction is just one of the awards I think was wrong. Now I'm a big B2ST fan, and I think they definitely should have won something, probably best song overall tbh, but Fiction wasn't a particularly dancey song if you know what I mean, it was a bit of foot shuffling for the most part. Based on the nominations, I don't think you can really look anywhere other than Infinite or TVXQ, the others just weren't very dancey lol. And I won't even talk about artist of the year lol, SNSD winning after their worst ever promotion? K brah. Seems like one of those political-type "They couldn't possibly win in the category they should have won in, so we'll throw them a bone". edit- On November 30 2011 01:35 Lonyo wrote: They won best group vocal performance, not best singers. If the award is supposed to be given to who sings the best, then 2NE1 shouldn't win, but the title of the award was best group vocals. Vocals isn't just singing. If it was just for best singer you are excluding all rappers/rapping, meaning something like Sistar19 shouldn't even be nominated because their 'group' performance only includes only one person singing, and Bora rapping. EIther way you can't argue that even with rapping/autotune (lol) the vocal talents of 2NE1 is ANYWHERE close to Davichi or 2AM, pure talent wise. Sure there's rapping, but I wouldn't consider it to be amazing rapping. They don't write their own lyrics, which I consider to be a major facet of rapping, and the actual delivery isn't anything above average either. Compare that to the voices of those two groups and there's no way in my mind that they should win that award. I could see performance or dance or some bullshit like that, but they are nowhere close to the best vocal group. double edit- the example you brought up is I am the best vs Lonely vs Don't Cry. From autotune to singing to something in between. Breaking it down- autotune=no talent required, I could autotune a song as well as 2ne1. Singing- above average for an average/dance idol group, but we can all agree not close to a dedicated ballad group. Don't Cry- again, better than average for the category but not as good as other songs of the same type, and not really exceptional. So really, yes 2ne1 has different musical "styles", but quantity isn't greater than quality and they aren't exceptional at any of them. yayaya Jiyeons, for Japan version. Still hate the song, but the concept looks ok on most of them. ![]() and dat soyeon~ ![]() | ||
Ym1r
United States1164 Posts
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
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TunaBarrett
Sweden1045 Posts
On November 29 2011 23:24 Moonwrath wrote: Had a pretty good split of who actually won awards. Barring some ridiculous things like Miss A winning. Whats ridiculous about that? Their opponents performances are all really awful, except perhaps loly poly. Also fuck yeah snoop dogg edit, lols at snsd trying hard to push them boobs up there. edit2, lleessang going to the US , me jelly :E | ||
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