EPTKorean Music Discussion - Page 1872
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zerious
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gokai
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chiwawa
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On November 13 2011 05:05 gokai wrote: Oh shit, I forgot I've seen Yoochun and Jaejong acted in dramas. And supriseingly they held their own. And all five of DBSK speak fluent Japanese. Haha, that's insane. Too bad SM paid them shit, so they split. Of course they would have been successful without SM but you can't ignore how large part SM has played in their careers. Bad contracts is nothing that only has been a SM thing, it's been bad in all of Kpop except for YG I would guess. SM's artists still earns plenty but the biggest question is if their cut is big enough, and that's most certainly a no. | ||
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chenchen
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On November 13 2011 05:08 Moonwrath wrote: TVXQ with HoMin is still freaking amazing though. Yeah they're definitely still way up there in terms of talent, though I think that JYJ got the better split, especially for vocals. Yunho can execute some sick nasty choreography though and Changmin does have a very powerful voice. I'm so glad that we're having a discussion on the artistic and performing merit of boy bands >< | ||
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chenchen
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On November 13 2011 05:12 Maekju wrote: Of course they would have been successful without SM but you can't ignore how large part SM has played in their careers. Bad contracts is nothing that only has been a SM thing, it's been bad in all of Kpop except for YG I would guess. SM's artists still earns plenty but the biggest question is if their cut is big enough, and that's most certainly a no. Their contracts may seem bad but you have to consider that idol bands are solely performers. SM groups are all extremely well trained and talented performers, but performers are nothing without producers, composers, production managers, mv directors, fashion designers, set designers, make up artists, publicity managers, etc. On the surface, it looks like theyre the ones raking in the money, but a lot of work from a lot of people go into producing one successful act fronted by a handful of idols. | ||
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chiwawa
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On November 13 2011 05:23 chenchen wrote: Their contracts may seem bad but you have to consider that idol bands are solely performers. SM groups are all extremely well trained and talented performers, but performers are nothing without producers, composers, production managers, mv directors, fashion designers, set designers, make up artists, publicity managers, etc. On the surface, it looks like theyre the ones raking in the money, but a lot of work from a lot of people go into producing one successful act fronted by a handful of idols. While I agree with you that this is the case for most idols JYJ aren't really like most other. Just take a look at their latest album In Heaven and you'll see that it's largely produced by the members from lyrics to the music. Any group with that amount of talent that JYJ has would eventually make it big however they would never be able to get as big as DBSK once was because you need to be backed up by a big company for that. | ||
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gokai
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And I don't buy it that SM can't afford to pay them. Yeah the upfront cost for their productions must be pretty high, but after DBSK sold like tons of albums, they should have been able to pay good salaries easily. And SM is the only ones with a history of lawsuits. So that's gotta say something about the way they treat their stars. edit: Are we actually having a 2 year old debate, haha. | ||
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chiwawa
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On November 13 2011 05:46 gokai wrote: I just said that SM paid them next to nothing. I know they wouldn't be as explosively popular without SM. And I don't buy it that SM can't afford to pay them. Yeah the upfront cost for their productions must be pretty high, but after DBSK sold like tons of albums, they should have been able to pay good salaries easily. And SM is the only ones with a history of lawsuits. So that's gotta say something about the way they treat their stars. edit: Are we actually having a 2 year old debate, haha. SM paying them "next to nothing" still got them rich. But sure they should have gotten a lot more money out of it that's true. I'm just tired that people don't think they benefited from being in SM. Nothing is better than bringing old debates up again, JYJ's lawsuit together with WG's US venture can be discussed forever. Guess this is what the guy gets for bringing up male kpop, it's just a matter of time until JYJ's lawsuit will be brought up. | ||
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Ruffian
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On November 13 2011 04:45 zyzq wrote: All I know is that Key is not straight. Minho is pretty terrible, the rest are good though. Key could be gay, straight, bi, or alien and he'd still be mah man (keke) I do know he admitted to over playing the whole "diva" act on camera though. Kinda like Jo Kwon (though I still don't know about him haha.) I don't know why everyone thinks Minho is terrible? Because he can't sing as well as the others? A lot of k-pop stars aren't great at singing tbh. As a rapper though Minho is great. Especially in "GET DOWN!"  | ||
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gokai
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And I've I said before. I've got nothing with Minho except for his oncreen personality. He's just so wooden. | ||
Kipsate
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pretty good voice. | ||
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mizU
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Their chairman just bought like a 20 million dollar mansion in LA. He makes bank. | ||
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DEN1ED
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On November 13 2011 06:16 Kipsate wrote: not a huge fan of shinee apart from Replay but I really like the Ost that one of em did for city hunter + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzUsBUoaMNo pretty good voice. Ya, I like that song as well. Although the whole city hunter ost is pretty great. | ||
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zyzq
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my fav ost, i feel kyuhyun's voice is made for osts | ||
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0123456789
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They are all so cryptlike, except Shindong. Who uses his hard earned money to buy food. Except they stopped feeding him now too! I want to buy that man a hamburger! | ||
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chenchen
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On November 13 2011 06:15 gokai wrote: How much were they actually making Maekju? And I've I said before. I've got nothing with Minho except for his oncreen personality. He's just so wooden. Before splitting, I think that it was revealed that each member of TVXQ made somewhere around $2 million each, which is decent, but pennies compared to American or Japanese pop stars. I'm going to safely assume that every other idol makes significantly less, except maybe Big Bang. http://kimchisoju.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/money-war-17-sms-latest-spin-we-gave-tvxq-40-of-the-total-income/ | ||
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unichan
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On November 13 2011 08:05 0123456789 wrote: SM doesn't feed their artists ^_^ They are all so cryptlike, except Shindong. Who uses his hard earned money to buy food. Except they stopped feeding him now too! I want to buy that man a hamburger! LOL, I agree Sooyoung arms and legs make me want to puke. I feel like I could grab them and bend them a little and they'd just snap. Ughhh + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://yeinjee.com/star/wp-content/uploads/korea-snsd-sooyoung.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OzjGf.jpg) | ||
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