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gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 00:44:12
November 13 2011 00:43 GMT
#37461
Well, I guess you might enjoy this link then (lol a little on the NSFW side):
http://seoulbeats.com/2011/11/forgetting-something/
iMYoonA
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia462 Posts
November 13 2011 00:52 GMT
#37462
On November 13 2011 06:02 Maekju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 05:46 gokai wrote:
I just said that SM paid them next to nothing. I know they wouldn't be as explosively popular without SM.

And I don't buy it that SM can't afford to pay them. Yeah the upfront cost for their productions must be pretty high, but after DBSK sold like tons of albums, they should have been able to pay good salaries easily. And SM is the only ones with a history of lawsuits. So that's gotta say something about the way they treat their stars.

edit: Are we actually having a 2 year old debate, haha.

SM paying them "next to nothing" still got them rich. But sure they should have gotten a lot more money out of it that's true. I'm just tired that people don't think they benefited from being in SM.

Nothing is better than bringing old debates up again, JYJ's lawsuit together with WG's US venture can be discussed forever. Guess this is what the guy gets for bringing up male kpop, it's just a matter of time until JYJ's lawsuit will be brought up.





hey thats for strictly performances too. For advertisements and stuff, and their sponsoring of products, do they rake that in individually? I feel this is bigger than the performance aspect

*yoona | taeyeon | jiyeon | na eun | cho rong | IU | nana | suzy | yejin*
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
November 13 2011 00:57 GMT
#37463
On November 13 2011 09:43 gokai wrote:
Well, I guess you might enjoy this link then (lol a little on the NSFW side):
http://seoulbeats.com/2011/11/forgetting-something/

how is that at all nsfw? - -
You can't fight the feeling.
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
November 13 2011 01:01 GMT
#37464
On November 13 2011 09:39 hai2u wrote:
thanks for the 4minute gifs, this thread was getting unbearable with all the boyband and 2ne1 talk.


Some of us actually want to discuss music since the thread is entitled "Korean Music iscussion*" instead of ogling gifs and pics of random women people find attractive. If you're going to do that, why not make a "hot Korean girls" thread? Besides, how can you even claim that you're into Korean music if you can't even judge a group for their music and instead only judge them for their appearance (ahh 2ne1 is ugly and I don't do boys . . nooo) ><

What's the difference between that and having a "porn star discussion" thread or "import models discussion" thread?
powerade = dragoon blood
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
November 13 2011 01:21 GMT
#37465
On November 13 2011 08:26 Ruffian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 08:22 mizU wrote:
SNSD eats a LOT apparently.
They've been known to rack up food bills larger than boy bands, and eat often. High metabolisms?



LOL really?! I forget where but I read online they only eat like 900 calories a day or something. That's pretty epic if they eat a lot. Proud of them. ^.^b

You actually believed that garbage? Human beings can't survive on that little amount of food, let alone with how active SNSD is. They can eat 2k a day and not gain weight simply because they are fit and actively using their bodies with dancing and performing and practicing.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Ruffian
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States369 Posts
November 13 2011 01:23 GMT
#37466
On November 13 2011 10:01 chenchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 09:39 hai2u wrote:
thanks for the 4minute gifs, this thread was getting unbearable with all the boyband and 2ne1 talk.


Some of us actually want to discuss music since the thread is entitled "Korean Music iscussion*" instead of ogling gifs and pics of random women people find attractive. If you're going to do that, why not make a "hot Korean girls" thread? Besides, how can you even claim that you're into Korean music if you can't even judge a group for their music and instead only judge them for their appearance (ahh 2ne1 is ugly and I don't do boys . . nooo) ><

What's the difference between that and having a "porn star discussion" thread or "import models discussion" thread?


THANK YOU FOR THIS. I side-eyed that comment so hard. Couldn't have said it better myself.
There's a class for this (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 01:32:25
November 13 2011 01:28 GMT
#37467
On November 13 2011 09:57 lokiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 09:43 gokai wrote:
Well, I guess you might enjoy this link then (lol a little on the NSFW side):
http://seoulbeats.com/2011/11/forgetting-something/

how is that at all nsfw? - -

As in you shouldn't be looking at them at work?
On November 13 2011 10:01 chenchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 09:39 hai2u wrote:
thanks for the 4minute gifs, this thread was getting unbearable with all the boyband and 2ne1 talk.


Some of us actually want to discuss music since the thread is entitled "Korean Music iscussion*" instead of ogling gifs and pics of random women people find attractive. If you're going to do that, why not make a "hot Korean girls" thread? Besides, how can you even claim that you're into Korean music if you can't even judge a group for their music and instead only judge them for their appearance (ahh 2ne1 is ugly and I don't do boys . . nooo) ><

What's the difference between that and having a "porn star discussion" thread or "import models discussion" thread?

Kpop is as much about the music as the visuals and choreography. So I don't blame people for judging it mainly by looks.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 13 2011 01:29 GMT
#37468
and how is that article not safe for work?
WriterXiao8~~
gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
November 13 2011 01:33 GMT
#37469
Alot of girls looking as if they wear no pants?
sauman
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 01:42:46
November 13 2011 01:42 GMT
#37470
On November 13 2011 08:26 Ruffian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 08:22 mizU wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
SNSD eats a LOT apparently.
They've been known to rack up food bills larger than boy bands, and eat often. High metabolisms?



LOL really?! I forget where but I read online they only eat like 900 calories a day or something. That's pretty epic if they eat a lot. Proud of them. ^.^b


+ Show Spoiler +


Go to around 4 minutes

On November 12 2011 21:17 hubfub wrote:
just got back from kpop in sydney fest!!! caught a rose that seohyun threw from the stage ZOMG SO AWESOME


_SO_JEALOUS_
아이유~
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
November 13 2011 01:44 GMT
#37471
On November 13 2011 10:28 gokai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 09:57 lokiM wrote:
On November 13 2011 09:43 gokai wrote:
Well, I guess you might enjoy this link then (lol a little on the NSFW side):
http://seoulbeats.com/2011/11/forgetting-something/

how is that at all nsfw? - -

As in you shouldn't be looking at them at work?
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 10:01 chenchen wrote:
On November 13 2011 09:39 hai2u wrote:
thanks for the 4minute gifs, this thread was getting unbearable with all the boyband and 2ne1 talk.


Some of us actually want to discuss music since the thread is entitled "Korean Music iscussion*" instead of ogling gifs and pics of random women people find attractive. If you're going to do that, why not make a "hot Korean girls" thread? Besides, how can you even claim that you're into Korean music if you can't even judge a group for their music and instead only judge them for their appearance (ahh 2ne1 is ugly and I don't do boys . . nooo) ><

What's the difference between that and having a "porn star discussion" thread or "import models discussion" thread?

Kpop is as much about the music as the visuals and choreography. So I don't blame people for judging it mainly by looks.


I'm not denying that Kpop is a visual experience, but the quality of this thread as a "Korean Music Discussion" thread is really complete crap. It should just be retitled to "adolescent guys drooling over hot girls flaunting their stuffs". The Korean and music part aren't even relevant . . . . how hard is it to actually find pictures of plastic girls doing sexy things?

Fine then. I call upon this guideline.

"Posting any material with little or no relevent discussion accompanying it"

I think that the quality of this thread would be greatly increased if people actually posted something worth discussing along with their gif bombs, selcas off of random blogs, rankings of "whom I'd bang", rather than "hey look, I'd do these attractive women, what do you think?" How many posts are just spoilered gif bombs or a bunch of random pictures of people's object of lust of choice? I TRIED increasing the quality of this thread by inciting some actual discussion and it worked briefly before it went back to "these are whom I'd bang".

I mean, what's the point of guidelines if this is predominantly just a "hot Korean girls" thread. Why not have a separate "hot Korean girls" thread and leave this thread for the music? If all you're going to discuss is "whom I'd bang" anyways, making the "Kpop" absolutely irrelevant. I mean honestly, how many of you would do Jiyeon or Hyomin or whomever if they had no part in Kpop? What if their profession of choice turned out to be strippers? A good portion of the contents of this thread would probably remain intact. "Oh, here's a hot picture of my favorite Korean stripper waking up in the morning". "Here's a hot picture of my favorite Korean stripper doing her signature dance move". "Here's a ranking of my top ten hottest Korean strippers"
powerade = dragoon blood
gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
November 13 2011 01:49 GMT
#37472
Haha, I get what you're saying. And I also like to dicuss something other than hot girls. But I feel you're coming off as too hateful. Which I don't think will help convince anyone.
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
November 13 2011 01:54 GMT
#37473
On November 13 2011 10:49 gokai wrote:
Haha, I get what you're saying. And I also like to dicuss something other than hot girls. But I feel you're coming off as too hateful. Which I don't think will help convince anyone.


I'm not hateful. If there's nothing worth discussing in this thread, then I actually just won't visit.

This thread keeps reasonably up to date with releases and live performance videos and if I feel like talking about something, I'd drop by.

I was actually just responding to people calling me out for making this thread so "unbearable" with its "boy band talk (faggots) and 2ne1(so gross, would not tap)"
powerade = dragoon blood
Ruffian
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States369 Posts
November 13 2011 01:54 GMT
#37474
On November 13 2011 10:42 sauman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 08:26 Ruffian wrote:
On November 13 2011 08:22 mizU wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
SNSD eats a LOT apparently.
They've been known to rack up food bills larger than boy bands, and eat often. High metabolisms?



LOL really?! I forget where but I read online they only eat like 900 calories a day or something. That's pretty epic if they eat a lot. Proud of them. ^.^b


+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2j4JGqM7FQ&feature=player_embedded


Go to around 4 minutes

Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 21:17 hubfub wrote:
just got back from kpop in sydney fest!!! caught a rose that seohyun threw from the stage ZOMG SO AWESOME


_SO_JEALOUS_


Well damn, if only I could eat that much a day hahaha. I knew that rumor sounded a little ehhh. Glad to know they're eating right ^^ (they are super active after all)
There's a class for this (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
Waterhaak
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands525 Posts
November 13 2011 01:57 GMT
#37475
On November 13 2011 10:44 chenchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 10:28 gokai wrote:
On November 13 2011 09:57 lokiM wrote:
On November 13 2011 09:43 gokai wrote:
Well, I guess you might enjoy this link then (lol a little on the NSFW side):
http://seoulbeats.com/2011/11/forgetting-something/

how is that at all nsfw? - -

As in you shouldn't be looking at them at work?
On November 13 2011 10:01 chenchen wrote:
On November 13 2011 09:39 hai2u wrote:
thanks for the 4minute gifs, this thread was getting unbearable with all the boyband and 2ne1 talk.


Some of us actually want to discuss music since the thread is entitled "Korean Music iscussion*" instead of ogling gifs and pics of random women people find attractive. If you're going to do that, why not make a "hot Korean girls" thread? Besides, how can you even claim that you're into Korean music if you can't even judge a group for their music and instead only judge them for their appearance (ahh 2ne1 is ugly and I don't do boys . . nooo) ><

What's the difference between that and having a "porn star discussion" thread or "import models discussion" thread?

Kpop is as much about the music as the visuals and choreography. So I don't blame people for judging it mainly by looks.

+ Show Spoiler +

I'm not denying that Kpop is a visual experience, but the quality of this thread as a "Korean Music Discussion" thread is really complete crap. It should just be retitled to "adolescent guys drooling over hot girls flaunting their stuffs". The Korean and music part aren't even relevant . . . . how hard is it to actually find pictures of plastic girls doing sexy things?

Fine then. I call upon this guideline.

"Posting any material with little or no relevent discussion accompanying it"

I think that the quality of this thread would be greatly increased if people actually posted something worth discussing along with their gif bombs, selcas off of random blogs, rankings of "whom I'd bang", rather than "hey look, I'd do these attractive women, what do you think?" How many posts are just spoilered gif bombs or a bunch of random pictures of people's object of lust of choice? I TRIED increasing the quality of this thread by inciting some actual discussion and it worked briefly before it went back to "these are whom I'd bang".

I mean, what's the point of guidelines if this is predominantly just a "hot Korean girls" thread. Why not have a separate "hot Korean girls" thread and leave this thread for the music? If all you're going to discuss is "whom I'd bang" anyways, making the "Kpop" absolutely irrelevant. I mean honestly, how many of you would do Jiyeon or Hyomin or whomever if they had no part in Kpop? What if their profession of choice turned out to be strippers? A good portion of the contents of this thread would probably remain intact. "Oh, here's a hot picture of my favorite Korean stripper waking up in the morning". "Here's a hot picture of my favorite Korean stripper doing her signature dance move". "Here's a ranking of my top ten hottest Korean strippers"


If you don't like how this thread works, and has been working for a long time. Why bother to come in here and tell us we're doing it wrong and we should do it the way you like it? The people that sing the songs are actually part of the music, so they are relevant as well. Also I like to argue that even though the girls are indeed attractive, hardly ever stuff gets posted along the lines "these are whom I'd bang".
버섯보다 빛나는
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 02:00:44
November 13 2011 02:00 GMT
#37476
On November 13 2011 10:49 gokai wrote:
Haha, I get what you're saying. And I also like to dicuss something other than hot girls. But I feel you're coming off as too hateful. Which I don't think will help convince anyone.

Yeah, you're coming off a bit strong in that post. You're welcome to try to change the thread, but the way these guys have been doing it is how these guys like to do it ^_^. Sometimes we do have discussion for a couple posts, but all text and no pics/vids/gifs makes for a sad kpop thread. Feel free to come around more and start up discussion though, I wouldn't mind hearing about boy groups and vocals and stuff more, but don't expect it to be all that. I'm still going to post my selcas and my cute pics =)
[referring to the guy this post was replying to lol]
:)
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
November 13 2011 02:06 GMT
#37477
going to steam IY2 Ep 1 : http://www.twitch.tv/lokimw
will start in exactly 3minutes
You can't fight the feeling.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
November 13 2011 02:09 GMT
#37478
So, two years after the thread has been around, you come along, complain that it should be some other way and insult posters by claiming that we can't like korean music because we like the way they look?

Why don't you make your own thread and see how that goes.
twitch.tv/cratonz
gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 02:18:55
November 13 2011 02:15 GMT
#37479
Ahh, I have good memories of watching the first IY. Sunny was definitely the most funny. Became a fan of her after watching the show. And the chemistry between the girls were great. Though they lost alot of that when a part of the cast changed. I wonder if Sori is still working, haha.

edit:haha, just googled Sori. So she made a comeback in March and was featured on a Chrispi Crunch song recently. I thought she had disappeared.
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
November 13 2011 02:19 GMT
#37480
On November 13 2011 11:00 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 10:49 gokai wrote:
Haha, I get what you're saying. And I also like to dicuss something other than hot girls. But I feel you're coming off as too hateful. Which I don't think will help convince anyone.

Yeah, you're coming off a bit strong in that post. You're welcome to try to change the thread, but the way these guys have been doing it is how these guys like to do it ^_^. Sometimes we do have discussion for a couple posts, but all text and no pics/vids/gifs makes for a sad kpop thread. Feel free to come around more and start up discussion though, I wouldn't mind hearing about boy groups and vocals and stuff more, but don't expect it to be all that. I'm still going to post my selcas and my cute pics =)
[referring to the guy this post was replying to lol]


I'm coming off as a bit too strong because someone directly insulted me by saying something along the lines of "thank god for more 4minute for me to bate to, this thread has become *unbearable* because of all the boy band talk". I apologize for that. This thread is actually quite diverse and is a great source for Kpop news, releases, and performances. My exposure to Kpop started before adolescence and in an era completely dominated by guy bands, so I really don't feel in tune with "liking an artist because she's hot", hence why, as a straight male, I still prefer guy bands and find girl bands to be of an overall lower quality, though a large part of that may be because male idols start training earlier.

I'm just sad that a lot of regulars seem to only care about the idols' appearance, which, frankly, is probably a bit insulting to the idols too.
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