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gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 16:38:49
November 12 2011 16:33 GMT
#37381
I believe good vocals and music do well on digital more than albums sales or crazy fans. I think 4men sells very well in digital sales. And I believe Super Junior rarely does well in digital sales.

So I think the general public does like good vocals and music. But all the exposure idols get on TV kind of hides that fact.

And lol Kipsate, you forgot SNSD. And 4minute too, but they seem to be so unpopular in Koera, haha.

edit: I guess heres a KMK page topper.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 16:50:41
November 12 2011 16:46 GMT
#37382
On November 13 2011 01:33 gokai wrote:
I believe good vocals and music do well on digital more than albums sales or crazy fans. I think 4men sells very well in digital sales. And I believe Super Junior rarely does well in digital sales.

So I think the general public does like good vocals and music. But all the exposure idols get on TV kind of hides that fact.

And lol Kipsate, you forgot SNSD. And 4minute too, but they seem to be so unpopular in Koera, haha.

edit: I guess heres a KMK page topper.
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4 minute has 2 vocalists, gayoon and that other girl which i dont know the name of, hyunah sohyun and the other girl who is not the vocalist can't sing really well either. Also i didnt list snsd on purpose.

anyway my point was, you dont listen to dance based kpop for the amazing vocals, and thus its a bonus not a need to have multiple vocalists.
WriterXiao8~~
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
November 12 2011 16:52 GMT
#37383
On November 13 2011 01:46 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 01:33 gokai wrote:
I believe good vocals and music do well on digital more than albums sales or crazy fans. I think 4men sells very well in digital sales. And I believe Super Junior rarely does well in digital sales.

So I think the general public does like good vocals and music. But all the exposure idols get on TV kind of hides that fact.

And lol Kipsate, you forgot SNSD. And 4minute too, but they seem to be so unpopular in Koera, haha.

edit: I guess heres a KMK page topper.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


4 minute has 2 vocalists, gayoon and that other girl which i dont know the name of, hyunah sohyun and the other girl who is not the vocalist can't sing really well either. Also i didnt list snsd on purpose.

anyway my point was, you dont listen to dance based kpop for the amazing vocals, and thus its a bonus not a need to have multiple vocalists.


I always considered Taeyeon to be a decent singer...

You disagree?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 12 2011 16:53 GMT
#37384
I dont disagree with that, I think you are missing my point.
WriterXiao8~~
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
November 12 2011 17:11 GMT
#37385
On November 13 2011 01:53 Kipsate wrote:
I dont disagree with that, I think you are missing my point.


That SNSD isn't a singing group but still popular?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 17:18:42
November 12 2011 17:12 GMT
#37386
On November 13 2011 02:11 mizU wrote:
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On November 13 2011 01:53 Kipsate wrote:
I dont disagree with that, I think you are missing my point.


That SNSD isn't a singing group but still popular?


You could phrase it like that, I left SNSD out because I was responding to Moonwrath at that time.
WriterXiao8~~
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
November 12 2011 17:15 GMT
#37387
Where's the Tablo love?!
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nbsp23
Profile Joined September 2011
89 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 17:30:16
November 12 2011 17:27 GMT
#37388
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KroplaBeskidu
Profile Joined June 2011
1093 Posts
November 12 2011 17:46 GMT
#37389
From what I've seen both Kara and Wondergirls can't sing for shit and at least Wondergirls have been at the top for a long while, if they got Gee would probably still to this day be at the top. That applies to Kara too, why not? You don't need much skill to sing Gee. Anyway people like us who look for MR do comparisons and stuff, this is the one obsessive percent, everybody else wants dem legz. Get some good jailbait going, get them half naked on stage doing some waves and shit, slurp durp you're popular.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
November 12 2011 18:04 GMT
#37390
Why are we discussing vocals on kpop idols. Why?
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
November 12 2011 18:08 GMT
#37391
On November 13 2011 03:04 Hyaach wrote:
Why are we discussing vocals on kpop idols. Why?


Srs its worse than discussing "OMG WHO GOT DA PLASTUC SURGERY".
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Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
November 12 2011 18:11 GMT
#37392
You guys never really mention 2NE1 at all, is it because they're more Hip Hop than pop? I personally love their vocals.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
November 12 2011 18:14 GMT
#37393
On November 13 2011 03:11 Snuggles wrote:
You guys never really mention 2NE1 at all, is it because they're more Hip Hop than pop? I personally love their vocals.

me too but no one talks about 2ne1 here because they don't have the image that most guys like ^_^
their vocals are great, but most of their songs don't showcase it too well.
:)
PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 18:15:01
November 12 2011 18:14 GMT
#37394
^I think it's because most of the time, they are more autotuned than anything and people find that irritating. Plus, they don't have an attractive style for men like us. But iirc, they have great voices under their autotune.
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
November 12 2011 18:15 GMT
#37395
I don't know why, but Norazzo - The Sales King has become one of my favorite songs. I usually don't listen to anything other then girl groups, but I just happened to click the spoiler at one of the music core posts and I was amazed.
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Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
November 12 2011 18:16 GMT
#37396
That's a shame =P I mean some of the groups that I see idolized here have sub par vocals compared to 2NE1. Music > Looks imo. Even if they have the image of piggy dolls I'd still listen to their music if its good.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
November 12 2011 18:17 GMT
#37397
[image loading]
we need some pictures ^_^
:)
chiwawa
Profile Joined April 2011
330 Posts
November 12 2011 18:23 GMT
#37398
On November 13 2011 03:16 Snuggles wrote:
That's a shame =P I mean some of the groups that I see idolized here have sub par vocals compared to 2NE1. Music > Looks imo. Even if they have the image of piggy dolls I'd still listen to their music if its good.

If you wanna bring up sub par vocals I guess we should bring up Dara. But it's fine because 2NE1 was never about vocals.
시카
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 12 2011 18:24 GMT
#37399
I honestly dont know why Dara is part of 2ne1. She is pretty terrible at everything.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 18:28:12
November 12 2011 18:27 GMT
#37400
Haha, hasn't Dara gotten alot better since their debut.

And to be popular you just need a good pop song and and good concept to got with it. Everything else is secondary. Even looks.

edit: Dara is the Sohee of WG or the Hyuna of 4minute, she's the eye candy.
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