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Purpl3
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1067 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 00:37:42
November 08 2011 00:32 GMT
#36961
On November 08 2011 09:28 Mashes wrote:
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On November 07 2011 14:18 Craton wrote:
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'Sup Bisu?


wow totally cannot be unseen.

Spoilers, how do they work?
+ Show Spoiler +
Oh, like this.

Edit: Page top
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Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
November 08 2011 00:33 GMT
#36962
On November 08 2011 09:19 DystopiaX wrote:
@andyrau
Wasn't responding to you? Talking to Ymir. Also half convinced IV drip is the polite term for more severe ass medication, also note they don't tell you what they put in that IV.

@Ymir
You don't get it. Andy and I are not talking about running into forums and "shitting" on the group. We're talking about having an actual discussion. Like if I walked into TL, what you're saying is that I'd be saying "FUCK ESPORTS STARCRAFT SUCKS PLAY COD LOLLLLL". The type of criticism that we're talking about is walking into TL and saying "I like Starcraft but I don't like how the GSL is run, or how there's friction between the BW and SC2 communities, etc.". You can be CRITICAL without "shitting on" something. Fan forums are created for discussion about something you're a fan of, not only to post adoring praise of anything that has to do with it. If that were true TL would just be about how awesome BW is and how balanced SCII is and how all the players, personalities, etc. are saints. It's not, but the discussion on Soshified is the SNSD equivalent of what I described.

As for "every fan forum being the same", I frequented Karaholic when I was a huge Hara fanboy and people there were critical all the time, said they didn't like certain looks on the girls or didn't like a particular song, without a flamewar. There were threads with actual discussion (fun facts, music reviews that were actually reviews and not YO NEW SHIT IS OUT BUY IT ITS AWESOME YEAHHHHHH). Sure there were the adoring "post about how much you love X here", and "Nicole hair- long or short?", but there was also good discussion, something that I unfortunately couldn't find in my 50 posts on SSF.


There are places you can find on soshified with discussion too, but the forums are so flooded with shit posts it's completely pushed aside. Rarely can you find anybody that can take small criticisms, that goes for all fan groups.
im ji geum - ellin - eunji - spica - a pink - naeun - sojinyura - HAERYUNG<3 - Red Velvet
SFaXieL
Profile Joined June 2011
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 00:44:34
November 08 2011 00:34 GMT
#36963
On November 07 2011 06:19 chenchen wrote:
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On November 07 2011 05:58 SFaXieL wrote:
Might be an ignorant comment, so forgive me in advance, but I feel male idol groups tend to have more vocally tuned members than female ones. W/ the exception of SUJU, I can't really name a boy group off the top of my head who have < 50% talented vocalists ... even the more dance oriented ones have awesome pipes. They just don't get as much spotlight because, well honestly, the general public - male and female - want to see cute girls more.

That being said, it's no surprise or secret that these girl groups have not-so-very-vocally-inclined members. i.e. Half of the soshis are labelled dancers - rightfully so - and the other half are actually very talented singers. They know it and we know it. Point being, and not only for SNSD but all groups ... appreciate and love them for what they have, don't hate them for what they don't.

+ Show Spoiler [Inyoung + Jiyeon iiiii] +
Oldie buy I like it
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Overall, boy bands are sooooo much more popular in Korea.


It's been a while since I've lived there so it might be different now, but it was all about the girl groups mid decade. The sudden influx of them might have diminished the overall popularity of "girl groups" so I can see the merit in what you're saying.

My point was ... I feel like male idols seem and feel more trained vocally than their female counterparts. Doesn't mean all of them are, but they're there. Maybe it has something to do w/ the dynamic of boy band choreo and the selection for the talent? Seems like when companies look for boy groups, they pick up dancers so that they're already tuned and experienced in that field, giving them more room and potential for vocal training i.e. Jay Park or even to go back as far as Se7en and Rain. Although I know Rain debuted first as a singer in a group, I don't think anyone can deny that that boss can dance.

But like Kipsate said, you don't necessarily listen to KPOP for vocals. However when things like MR vids are put in play ... why are people surprised? These artist are dancing their asses off, sans breath, and trying to look good at the same time. I prefer to watch that in a performance with some cover music over bands who just stand and sing and still provide a lack luster performance. No disrespect to ballad groups at all because that's what they do and their memo is to saaang and saaang their hearts out, I love me some 2am and davichi ... but to throw t-ara, kara, etc for sounding like shit in videos created with an already faulty method of extracting voice overs in a performance isn't fair.

P.S. Fuck I just realized I'm like 10 pages behind. That's what I get for not visiting yesterday. And to all the comments about SSF, who the hell goes to a fan site with motives other than to brag about their group with other people who agree and are in the same boat haha. That aside, discussion was actually pretty fruitful (and still is sometimes) in the forums but anything like that nowadays just gets buried by spazzing XD. It's the symptom of a really large and active community. I used to frequent karaholics, tiaradiadem, and even affxtion ... but honestly, those boards just arent as active.


On November 08 2011 09:35 TuElite wrote:
Tablo's Fever's End Commentary film now with english subtitles!

He explains his writing process and comments on every song. Dope stuff.
+ Show Spoiler +

Wtf Tablo doesn't know how to drive? How the hell did he get around when he lived in the US haha. Kids get their cars at the age of 17 here o.O


On November 08 2011 09:40 andyrau wrote:
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On November 08 2011 09:19 DystopiaX wrote:
@andyrau
Wasn't responding to you? Talking to Ymir. Also half convinced IV drip is the polite term for more severe ass medication, also note they don't tell you what they put in that IV.


lol I was referring to the fact that every time _________ idol collapses or faints they put him/her on an IV drip.
then a day later, they're completely fine. WIZARDRY~

I thought it was obvious, Koreans LOVE their stimpack
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1106517/1/aXiel/
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
November 08 2011 00:35 GMT
#36964
Tablo's Fever's End Commentary film now with english subtitles!

He explains his writing process and comments on every song. Dope stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIr3oXPwSZU
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
November 08 2011 00:40 GMT
#36965
On November 08 2011 09:19 DystopiaX wrote:
@andyrau
Wasn't responding to you? Talking to Ymir. Also half convinced IV drip is the polite term for more severe ass medication, also note they don't tell you what they put in that IV.


lol I was referring to the fact that every time _________ idol collapses or faints they put him/her on an IV drip.
then a day later, they're completely fine. WIZARDRY~
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 00:45:27
November 08 2011 00:43 GMT
#36966
On November 07 2011 23:14 Kipsate wrote:
if anyone wonders how voting goes, for MAMA(if anyone cares about that) here is how vocal group will be determined:
Best vocal performance group :
Viewer’s Vote 10%
Special Judge 20%
Research 20%(the fuq is this)
Album Sales 20%
Digital United Chart (Digital Single) 20%
Selection Committee 10%.


Since noone answered you because they felt like having stupid pointless arguments about SSF, I guess I will.

Research usually refers to internet searches and the like.

Oh, also some music for the Music thread.

Love is more fun than hate.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
November 08 2011 01:02 GMT
#36967
The comparison done here is so bad.
teamliquid is like soompi. There are people of different opinions on there.

Now
Take soshified as a programming house.
Take hardcore sones as stupid bisu/flash/jaedong fanboys.
There, you have your argument.
Thailand is my new obsession
iMYoonA
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia462 Posts
November 08 2011 01:04 GMT
#36968
to be honest i like it when there are some sped posts, and a bit of flaming/arguing/shouting going on. It makes the forums feel more alive. As someone said earlier, when any little criticism is met with just denial it just feels a bit soulless you know? like something from 1984 lmao, despite how populated the forums are.

im probably just a heartless person who sometimes likes inciting some shit, so feel free to bash!

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does anyone know what concert this is from? any idea what the scooters were for? im guessing just trying to be randomly cute and stuff like that, but dunno if it served any specific performance purpose

*yoona | taeyeon | jiyeon | na eun | cho rong | IU | nana | suzy | yejin*
chiwawa
Profile Joined April 2011
330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 01:32:22
November 08 2011 01:11 GMT
#36969
On November 08 2011 10:04 iMYoonA wrote:
to be honest i like it when there are some sped posts, and a bit of flaming/arguing/shouting going on. It makes the forums feel more alive. As someone said earlier, when any little criticism is met with just denial it just feels a bit soulless you know? like something from 1984 lmao, despite how populated the forums are.

im probably just a heartless person who sometimes likes inciting some shit, so feel free to bash!
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does anyone know what concert this is from? any idea what the scooters were for? im guessing just trying to be randomly cute and stuff like that, but dunno if it served any specific performance purpose


&t=115 doesn't work for some reason, but they enter on scooters at 1m55s.
It's from their concert last year, most likely the one in Shanghai

Edit: 100417 SNSD 1st Asia Tour - Into The New World - Shanghai, China
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시카
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
November 08 2011 01:13 GMT
#36970
lol the scooters are extremely cute, but lame at the same time.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 08 2011 01:50 GMT
#36971
@Sfaxiel
Cause AFAIK he was in Canada until like 14, then moved to Korea international school, then to US for college. It's pretty common for college kids to not have cars and he missed the point in time in the US where he'd have gotten a license in high school.
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
November 08 2011 02:31 GMT
#36972
http://www.soompi.com/news/anti-fans-and-their-power-in-the-music-industry

NSFW, crazy shit
Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
November 08 2011 02:37 GMT
#36973
ya I posted that a while ago, but its good to pass that around, for those who haven't seen it, read it. It's hellaaaaaa creepy.
im ji geum - ellin - eunji - spica - a pink - naeun - sojinyura - HAERYUNG<3 - Red Velvet
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
November 08 2011 03:02 GMT
#36974
On November 08 2011 11:37 Ym1r wrote:
ya I posted that a while ago, but its good to pass that around, for those who haven't seen it, read it. It's hellaaaaaa creepy.


seriously creeps me out dude, like people actually kill themselves for a person they don't even know outside of what they see online/tv

sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
November 08 2011 03:22 GMT
#36975
wow i already knew about the bloody letters, stalking, dorm writing, and other random shit (tablo college incident), but i didn't know some crazy bitch spiked u-know's drink with glue

holy fuck
Forever Young
SFaXieL
Profile Joined June 2011
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 03:30:23
November 08 2011 03:29 GMT
#36976
On November 08 2011 10:50 DystopiaX wrote:
@Sfaxiel
Cause AFAIK he was in Canada until like 14, then moved to Korea international school, then to US for college. It's pretty common for college kids to not have cars and he missed the point in time in the US where he'd have gotten a license in high school.

OOO tyty, I knew he's lived almost everywhere in the map but I've always thought he lived in Canada then went straight to college in the US during his teens. Makes sense now. If he went to Kent, I mighta just missed him by a couple of years!

Edit: Nope he went to Seoul Int. ... no wonder he's a freaking genius.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1106517/1/aXiel/
Ruffian
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States369 Posts
November 08 2011 03:30 GMT
#36977
I can't with sasaeng fans. Like, I can't imagine spending every waking moment following around a celebrity. I've read the 2pm sasaeng fan accounts and geez. Wish I didn't because it changed my image of them o__o

on a happier note! my favorite WG cf. lmfao.

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There's a class for this (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
November 08 2011 04:57 GMT
#36978
TuElite, thanks for the nicole blogs really liked them !
Radioman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada904 Posts
November 08 2011 05:49 GMT
#36979
On November 08 2011 10:04 iMYoonA wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

does anyone know what concert this is from? any idea what the scooters were for? im guessing just trying to be randomly cute and stuff like that, but dunno if it served any specific performance purpose



It's from their first Asia tour. They're riding scouters because they don't have lines/parts in Day by Day which was being sung at the time. Taeyeon, Seohyun, Sunny, Tiffany, and Jessica are the only ones who sing it! The rest ride around on scouters and hand out roses and some other shit to the fans in the front :D
Check out my blog! - http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/radioman
UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
November 08 2011 06:23 GMT
#36980


this that expensive heat
i be that pretty motherfucker
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