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gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 18:00:38
September 30 2011 17:44 GMT
#33221
Oh and also. How big was Se7en before the went to America, compared to his comeback. It seemed like he was pretty big before but now he's kind of unpopular.

edit: wow first page topper. I'm not really a fan of any girl groups at the moment. So here's a picture of Lee Na Young.

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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9775 Posts
September 30 2011 17:51 GMT
#33222
SM probably just can't resist the potential income if they get big in America. Being popular in America >>>>>>> being popular anywhere else.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 30 2011 17:51 GMT
#33223
On October 01 2011 02:44 gokai wrote:
Oh and also. How big was Se7en before the went to America, compared to his comeback. It seemed like he was pretty big before but now he's kind of unpopular.


he was basically the no1 in korea before he left for america, maybe only second to rain but when rain wasnt promoting, se7en was definitely no 1

unpopular now..., well he is not promoting anything right, I remember better together, digital bounce; Im going crazy promotions last year were pretty good, of course its a "new" generation now but I think he's still very popular in korea.


also LOL@ the guy who said he doesnt like 2ne1 because of autotune but likes to listne to kara, maybe you shoudl watch some acoustic videos of 2ne1 on youtube, I recommend the "Yg on air" episodes. Compared to Kara they're actually vocally talented.
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
September 30 2011 17:57 GMT
#33224
On October 01 2011 02:44 gokai wrote:
Oh and also. How big was Se7en before the went to America, compared to his comeback. It seemed like he was pretty big before but now he's kind of unpopular.


Se7en was really popular before going to America, but the thing is the Kpop industry has a really short attention span, so acts have to release things all the time or else risk being irrelevant. Even BoA, who was arguably the most popular act at her peak, has lost a lot of fans who have moved on.

The fact of the matter is, you can't make it in America as an Asian without some kind of gimmick. Utada Hikaru, who speaks fluent English, who had the best producers behind her, Def Jam for the distribution and marketing, and arguably a bigger fan base than any kpop act, failed miserably.

TzaTzers
Profile Joined April 2009
United States589 Posts
September 30 2011 18:30 GMT
#33225
But kingdom hearts!

I doubt snsd will go all out in the US (yet) but an album release with or without english songs wouldn't really hurt them even if they don't sell a single copy. They are big in asia and every damn korean/ japanese/ every other country they are loved by will buy that album.
"Why did the colossus fall over? because he was imbalanced..."
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
September 30 2011 18:37 GMT
#33226
On October 01 2011 02:26 Rkie wrote:
Isn't/Wasn't 2ne1 planning to have an American debut as well?

Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 02:18 KroplaBeskidu wrote:
I hope it's just a rumor and that SNSD won't get sent to the US like Wondergirls coz in my mind this really means the end. A concert or two a year yea that's fine, anything more and you're pretty much throwing it all away. I follow Kpop groups for a reason, I like their Koreanness. Seeing the Japanese slobbering all over them was bad enough but America? God please no...


I think this would be a smart idea if they want to get into the American music scene. One or two concerts a year would make it a somewhat big event, but not too big.

2ne1 were working with will.i.am IIRC, but their US debut got delayed for Japan I think?
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
September 30 2011 18:40 GMT
#33227
On October 01 2011 02:51 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 02:44 gokai wrote:
Oh and also. How big was Se7en before the went to America, compared to his comeback. It seemed like he was pretty big before but now he's kind of unpopular.


he was basically the no1 in korea before he left for america, maybe only second to rain but when rain wasnt promoting, se7en was definitely no 1

unpopular now..., well he is not promoting anything right, I remember better together, digital bounce; Im going crazy promotions last year were pretty good, of course its a "new" generation now but I think he's still very popular in korea.


also LOL@ the guy who said he doesnt like 2ne1 because of autotune but likes to listne to kara, maybe you shoudl watch some acoustic videos of 2ne1 on youtube, I recommend the "Yg on air" episodes. Compared to Kara they're actually vocally talented.

it's not cause we think 2ne1 can't sing, we know they can but that doesn't matter if none of their songs showcase that talent and instead focus on autotune bullshit and being whatever the Korean equivalent of female gangster is.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 30 2011 18:42 GMT
#33228
that and 2NE1's looks are below average.



Kan Mi Yeon why u no promote your good songs from your album.

also, she could be high tier in her age b racket if she ate sum moar.
WriterXiao8~~
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
September 30 2011 19:31 GMT
#33229
On October 01 2011 02:02 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 01:28 Sableyeah wrote:
Errrm I was just wondering how godtierlike Girl's Day was and then I thought of a term:
Girl Group's Average Personal Overall Female Beauty Rating

I just thouht that Girl's Day would score really high so let us see... (click spoiler)

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SNSD 7.55
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Taeyeon 9
Sunny 8
Jessica 7
Tiffany 7
Hyoyeon 5
Seohyun 8
Yoona 7
Yuri 8
Sooyoung 9


Kara 7.80
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Gyuri 8
Seungyeon 7
Hara 8
Nicole 9
Jiyoung 7


T-ara 7.71
+ Show Spoiler +
Eunjung 8
Hyomin 8
Qri 9
Soyeon 8
Boram 7
Jiyeon 8
Hwayoung 6


Girl's Day 8.60
+ Show Spoiler +
Hyeri 8
Yura 9
Minah 8
Sojin 9
Jihae 9


f(x) 7.20
+ Show Spoiler +
Victoria 7
Luna 7
Sulli 9
Krystal 8
Amber 5


4Minute 7.60
+ Show Spoiler +
Jihyun 7
Jiyoon 8
Gayoon 6
Hyuna 9
Sohyun 8


After School 7.63
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Kahi 8
Jungah 7
Uee 8
Eyoung 6
Lizzy 7
Jooyeon 8
Nana 9
Raina 8


Rainbow 7.43
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't know their names cept for 3... Sorry I didn't mean to hurt your(fanboi) feelings
Jisook 9
Jaekyung 8
Woori 7
And then 6 7 8 7




Ah, Girl's Day won by a landslide :p Followed by Kara and then T-ara

Anyone? ^^

are these self rated? no 10s at all? i know a couple who would get 10s from me
should've included miss A :O

also can someone explain to me why jihae is so popular? she's pcute but the worst one out of the group to me.

also about snsd failing... i hope t-ara or miss a takes over, kara's troll gyuri > t-ara's hwayoung. and am i like the only blackjack here haha, i quite enjoy most of what 2ne1 puts out.


Well tbh, I really don't know who I would give a 10/10...
And I didn't include Davichi, KMK might've gotten a 10 ;-]
I would say Yura ... or Hyuna and Nicole because I'm total bias ^^

Anyhow yeah I didn't really think they would score high but it's alright I guess ^^ Because they only have 4 members xD
Miss A 7.5
+ Show Spoiler +
Min 7
Suzy 8
Jia 7
Fei 8


Jihae is just great :p I would say Hyeri because she has quite an unique face and Minah has an either love-it-or-hate-it sort of charm I love it.

Well I don't know if it's because they are just all over the place and I've seen all of them from every fucking angle that they got boring suddenly? Nah dunno I just don't think they are all that appealling anymore. I should've given Seohyun a 9 orsomething, she's charming.

The biggest troll out there is Hwayoung, main reason being that she was actually add after they got popular and had no actual need for a new maknae... Serious marketing fail o.o But even so they scored high, 3 of their members considered ullzzang is win... :D
I do like 2NE1 but I'd say they will probably end up at an average of 7? Their music, hmmz I didn't like I'm the best. They have style
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 20:51:30
September 30 2011 20:50 GMT
#33230
2ne1 is the best female idol group out right now >>>>>
i be that pretty motherfucker
stablol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States82 Posts
September 30 2011 21:13 GMT
#33231
On October 01 2011 05:50 UrASofty wrote:
2ne1 is the best female idol group out right now >>>>>

yea this
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TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 21:17:21
September 30 2011 21:14 GMT
#33232
On October 01 2011 02:42 gokai wrote:
Man, why can't the Kpop industry understand. If you can't speak perfect English, you won't make it in the US. Shit, even if you speak perfect English, being Asian diminishes your chances to nothing.

Sign, why can't they just stick to mining the goldmine that is Japan.

Though, I don't think SM is foolish enough to go all out in America. There's too many failed examples for that to happen.


What I don't get is why even bother with album sales in the first place ??? In North America and Europe, every record label and artists understands that you make money off of concerts and not album sales... If KARA/SNSD or any of the really popular groups were to have a concert every month or so in Seoul, Busan + two or three places in Japan, they'd be guaranteed to sold out at every concerts and have a guaranteed profit every time.

And by concerts I don't mean performing one song at a festival. Perform like 10-15 songs and charge 100$+ the ticket.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
September 30 2011 21:18 GMT
#33233
The eff did all the blackjacks come from lol...and here I thought there were none left. Also, they're not close to being the best. Cl=ugly, bom is so plastic she can't move her face, dara's face looks weird, minzys average at best. They all have talent but that's irrelevant if all yg will have them do is scream/AirPrint the shit out of them, to horrible sounding songs as well.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
September 30 2011 21:22 GMT
#33234
On October 01 2011 06:18 DystopiaX wrote:
The eff did all the blackjacks come from lol...and here I thought there were none left. Also, they're not close to being the best. Cl=ugly, bom is so plastic she can't move her face, dara's face looks weird, minzys average at best. They all have talent but that's irrelevant if all yg will have them do is scream/AirPrint the shit out of them, to horrible sounding songs as well.


Yeah, they aren't as pretty as most groups, but there music is more exciting imo.
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Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
September 30 2011 21:23 GMT
#33235
after school gotta be my favorite girl band since most of their songs are awesome
gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 21:38:04
September 30 2011 21:34 GMT
#33236
I liked 2ne1's music from their first two promotional cycles. Though I can't really listen to it now haha. And I don't really like their latest stuff. Maybe I'm just burnt out on their genre of music.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
September 30 2011 21:55 GMT
#33237
So, what the hell happened to Rania?

People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
September 30 2011 21:59 GMT
#33238
Teddy Riley unhappened.
HOLY CHECK!
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
September 30 2011 22:00 GMT
#33239
On October 01 2011 06:22 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 06:18 DystopiaX wrote:
The eff did all the blackjacks come from lol...and here I thought there were none left. Also, they're not close to being the best. Cl=ugly, bom is so plastic she can't move her face, dara's face looks weird, minzys average at best. They all have talent but that's irrelevant if all yg will have them do is scream/AirPrint the shit out of them, to horrible sounding songs as well.


Yeah, they aren't as pretty as most groups, but there music is more exciting imo.

Tbh I kind of wish they would do more fierce stuff like I am the Best (LOL UNPOPULAR OPINION I KNOW). I liked lonely, but I just want them to scream at me some more, cause there's no other girl group who screams at me like they do. Their first mini album was honestly really boring (i only liked i don't care zz), but I really liked their long album and their newest mini album. This is probably the opposite of most people's opinions that I've seen on here, lol
:)
stablol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States82 Posts
September 30 2011 22:01 GMT
#33240
On October 01 2011 06:18 DystopiaX wrote:
The eff did all the blackjacks come from lol...and here I thought there were none left. Also, they're not close to being the best. Cl=ugly, bom is so plastic she can't move her face, dara's face looks weird, minzys average at best. They all have talent but that's irrelevant if all yg will have them do is scream/AirPrint the shit out of them, to horrible sounding songs as well.

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