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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-06 05:44:07
January 06 2010 05:43 GMT
#3301
Davichi was the best ^^

uSiN
Profile Joined January 2009
United States208 Posts
January 06 2010 05:47 GMT
#3302
^^

http://www.allkpop.com/index.php/full_story/snsd_confirms_full-length_album_for_february/
.-.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51451 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-06 05:50:06
January 06 2010 05:49 GMT
#3303
i hope 'show me' will be the title track for that album ;p
but sm gotta do a hella good job to eclipse itnw.
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 06 2010 05:50 GMT
#3304
On January 06 2010 14:47 uSiN wrote:
^^

http://www.allkpop.com/index.php/full_story/snsd_confirms_full-length_album_for_february/

Finally full length album. Enough of this mini album bullshit, gimme some full length albums.
God Bless
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
January 06 2010 05:57 GMT
#3305
And meanwhile this coming Inki Gayo is the last one where Park JungAh and Seo InYoung are part of Jewelry. Man they were so good back in the day too ~~

Again - 2nd Album (Jo Min Ah and Seo In Young first time in Jewelry)


Tonight - 2nd Album


Passion + Superstar (Seo In Young looked soooo good during this time)


ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
January 06 2010 05:58 GMT
#3306


good song from iris soundtrack
it's weird that lee jung hyun is singing normally. usually her songs are quirky and unique, but this is a pretty standard ballad.
Sullifam
Megaman703
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada688 Posts
January 06 2010 06:08 GMT
#3307
On January 06 2010 14:50 Roffles wrote:
Finally full length album. Enough of this mini album bullshit, gimme some full length albums.


could not agree more. Mini albums are ok once in a while, but there were far too many in 2009.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
January 06 2010 06:15 GMT
#3308
No idea how TOP can say all their 2009 songs are no good when they couldn't get anywhere near this popularity with their older songs. Even if Genie wasn't as good as Gee, it still had to have been a half decent song or else they wouldn't have been able to stay as popular throughout the entire year and overtake SuJu or the infamouse 2NE1. No single song will carry you through 12 months alone, not even Gee (hint: Gee and Genie eclipsed ITNW 5x over at least in terms of impact). Whatever, clearly I won't stray your trains of thought.

I thought as a whole the Genie album was better than the Gee album. Gee (song) is best individually but as a whole mini-album, I liked the Genie songs more. Whatever.

As for 'Show Me', maybe I haven't listened to it enough/listened to a good enough version, but I hope they choose another title track.
Megaman703
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada688 Posts
January 06 2010 06:19 GMT
#3309
while I agree with you that Genie was good, you're definitely confusing "big" and "popular" with "good", when those aren't mutually inclusive.
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-06 06:52:53
January 06 2010 06:31 GMT
#3310
On January 06 2010 15:15 beefhamburger wrote:
No idea how TOP can say all their 2009 songs are no good when they couldn't get anywhere near this popularity with their older songs. Even if Genie wasn't as good as Gee, it still had to have been a half decent song or else they wouldn't have been able to stay as popular throughout the entire year and overtake SuJu or the infamouse 2NE1. No single song will carry you through 12 months alone, not even Gee (hint: Gee and Genie eclipsed ITNW 5x over at least in terms of impact). Whatever, clearly I won't stray your trains of thought.

I thought as a whole the Genie album was better than the Gee album. Gee (song) is best individually but as a whole mini-album, I liked the Genie songs more. Whatever.

As for 'Show Me', maybe I haven't listened to it enough/listened to a good enough version, but I hope they choose another title track.


Well, the songs they decided to promote on their 1st album, each of em got #1's (Girls Generation, Kissing You, and even Baby Baby). I think they're going by actual song quality (which ITNW show's off their vocal skillset and choreo ability) which Gee is lacking vocally and Genie kinda matches up to ITNW. Gee's minialbum was pretty good I thought. Lets Talk About Love and Dear Mom were performed vs Honey on Genie's minialbum.

2NE1 actually managed to push over SNSD during live music shows (especially Inki Gayo). Girls can't get enough of CL and Park Bom (and you know guys love Park Bom and Sandara Park).

Aren't you glad SM ridded themselves of this group cuz they would've had ITNW as one of their songs.I miss you HyunJin (((((((



More HyunJin love lollll



And a Bonus, SMTown when slave driving wasn't as bad

T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
January 06 2010 06:56 GMT
#3311
Who cares, KARA album January.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 06 2010 07:04 GMT
#3312
when 2ne1 stops using autotune then I will admit they are better

Until then, comparing SNSD's vocal to 2ne1 is like comparing DBSK to Big Bang's Vocals
dats racist
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
January 06 2010 07:06 GMT
#3313
On January 06 2010 12:53 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 12:45 Nal_rAwr wrote:sure 2ne1 isn't really "eye-candy," but they all can actually sing (unlike all of the other girl groups)

Proof?


I wouldn't say they can all sing well. Dara is clearly not a great singer nor a great dancer (not bad though, and many worse in Kpop), but she gives the group personality and is arguably the only one that most people generally find to be attractive. Bom can clearly sing and sing very well as she's demonstrated in most of their songs and in "You And I". She actually has a pretty distinctive sound for Korean music and I happen to like it a lot. CL and Minzy have both shown that they can sing as well as rap in both their group songs and in their solos in "Please Don't Go".

Examples:







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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
January 06 2010 07:20 GMT
#3314
On January 06 2010 16:04 MrHoon wrote:
when 2ne1 stops using autotune then I will admit they are better

Until then, comparing SNSD's vocal to 2ne1 is like comparing DBSK to Big Bang's Vocals


SNSD's overall vocal talent is indeed very impressive. Taeyeon is consistently oustanding, Tiffany seems to really enjoy singing and put a lot of work into it, Sunny has impressed me at various times, Jessica I feel is a little overrated but has a distinct sound, Yuri and Sooyoung have impressed when it's just them, Seohyun has a very sweet voice, and the other two are just okay. However, I don't think many of them have very distinctive sounds and I have trouble at times distinguishing their voices when it's just audio. However, that's unsurprising when there are so many of them and they get so little actual singing time. The fact that they don't have any actual bad singers is impressive considering they have 9 members.

On the other hand, I like 2NE1 (and Big Bang for that matter) because they have a distinctive sound that is different from the rest of the Kpop bands. Their music and sound stands out, and their live performances tend to stand out. I'm also a fan of hip hop and R&B, and they're the only boy/girl groups that really give off that vibe and feeling. SNSD and Big Bang's stuff tends to blend in with what many other groups put out, albeit at a higher level in general.
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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-06 07:35:46
January 06 2010 07:33 GMT
#3315
And actually Big Bang has DBSK covered on vocals... haha. The "worst singer" out of Big Bang is G-Dragon and that isn't too bad. All SNSD does is really pop'ish type stuff so you really don't need autotune for that, actually it's not very applicable to what they do (versus 4Minute and 2NE1's styles)

Anyone wanna help me identify the guy in glasses in this vid? He sings right after Dana, around like :57ish or so (gonna need ID8 to help me with this most likely haha...)



And now to look for the one where HyunJin is the one singing...

SMTown gets busted here

T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-06 08:02:01
January 06 2010 08:01 GMT
#3316
On January 06 2010 16:06 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwsQouNzYY8

2NE1 sings in English better than Wondergirls even though they have no training for the American market.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
January 06 2010 08:09 GMT
#3317
wonder girls have yoo bin(i have no idea how long she was in the states for, her english is terrible)
2NE1 has park bom, Sandara park, and CL to help Minji
park bom went to the states for college so her english is fluent, and sandara's from the Philippines where they speak fluent english as well.. I have no idea how CL's english is so good maybe she was in the states as well.

you don't need to have training for the american market to have good english pronunciation
You can't fight the feeling.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-06 10:39:57
January 06 2010 10:35 GMT
#3318
On January 06 2010 17:09 lokiM wrote:
wonder girls have yoo bin(i have no idea how long she was in the states for, her english is terrible)
2NE1 has park bom, Sandara park, and CL to help Minji
park bom went to the states for college so her english is fluent, and sandara's from the Philippines where they speak fluent english as well.. I have no idea how CL's english is so good maybe she was in the states as well.

you don't need to have training for the american market to have good english pronunciation


I know that CL traveled a lot growing up, so my guess is that she probably lived in English-speaking countries throughout her life.

IMO, Minji's English skills are very impressive considering that she grew up in Korea and has never lived anywhere else. Simply having groupmates who are fluent in English doesn't make it easy to sound fluent. One factor on her side is that she started with YG at a very young age, and YG has a good number of people with good English (i.e. Teddy, Kush, Jinu, etc.). SNSD's Seohyun's better-than-you'd-expect English supports the idea that it helps to start young.

Edit: One thing that seems to be the hardest for Koreans to overcome when speaking/singing English is their tendency to pronounce V's as B's. Short of native English-speakers, it's always there. It comes up all the time too because the word "love" (or "luh-bu") comes up so often.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
January 06 2010 10:38 GMT
#3319
bom is so cute in that video ^^
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51451 Posts
January 06 2010 13:46 GMT
#3320
loool

sunhwa is such a dumbass.
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