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Kaoriyu
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada276 Posts
May 05 2011 23:31 GMT
#24941
I'm planning to do an online audition and I am covering Im yours by Jason Mraz, I'm just trying to get the lyrics, beat and timings down before I even try. I don't think I'm bad looking I suppose but I am inspired by Nichkhun from 2PM who is Thai and debuted in 2PM when he was 18 which is my age right now.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
May 05 2011 23:34 GMT
#24942
Younha had to audition like 20 times before she got picked up. Shame on those who rejected her.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 23:40:30
May 05 2011 23:38 GMT
#24943
On May 06 2011 08:34 Souma wrote:
Younha had to audition like 20 times before she got picked up. Shame on those who rejected her.


^this is pretty much the worst one, I think they said that she wasn't pretty enough,

Speaking of which, there are alot of people rejected by JYP, afaik: (Got fucked by being lastposter on previous page)

IU
Some girl from Raina(unsure about this one)
Chorong
Some girl from Chichi
Hara Goo
Hyorin
Some guy from MBLAQ

And then some.

Song Ji eun too I heard, but unsure, furthermore along the way(Trainees) JYP lost Hyomin, GNA (who went to CCM and Cube respectivly), Hyunah went to cube aswell.

But cube and JYP were the same labels or something like that(Parent companies?), I am not sure about that, so thats not too bad if they go to Cube.
WriterXiao8~~
cHaNg-sTa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1058 Posts
May 05 2011 23:39 GMT
#24944
On May 06 2011 08:34 Souma wrote:
Younha had to audition like 20 times before she got picked up. Shame on those who rejected her.

I think it's sad that she had to goto Japan first to get her career going. Korea is like oops our bad, please come back. Now she's so popular, crazy how it works.
Jaedong <3 HOOK'EM HORNS!
Kaoriyu
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada276 Posts
May 05 2011 23:40 GMT
#24945
Oh my god 20 times? Holy crap. I'm going to try and work on my cover as much as possible until I feel it's fine.

I want to go for JYP because I think they are based off more 50% looks and 50% talent compared to SM where I think my prioritize looks more and YG where they absolutely require strong vocal talent.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 05 2011 23:41 GMT
#24946
On May 06 2011 08:29 YaKool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 08:26 DystopiaX wrote:
^other than being hot, you should be good at either singing and/or dancing, or otherwise incredibly hot (although that will probably get you further in SM or a smaller company). JYP is known for being really tough in auditions, 2nd only to YG; they've rejected a lot of current artists, probably most notably IU, who we all know is fucking amazing at singing and is pretty cute.

So basically be attractive and talented, and hope you get lucky.
edit- based on pre-debut photos of people I think being attractive is less important, more that the plastic surgery expert on hand thinks that they could do decent work on your face lol...
also alot of idols said they were consistently going to auditions...a lot said over a dozen before they got picked up so you should get used to rejection or do this thing once for fun or w/e.


He probably lives in NA so he probably has like once a year to audition to JYP unless he lives near the company

True, I meant it more as a "don't get your hopes up too high kind of thing. Doesn't SM also do Stateside auditions?

Also, I can understand why Goo Hara got rejected...hot as she is, she danced in her audition, and she can't really dance either.
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
May 05 2011 23:42 GMT
#24947
On May 06 2011 08:31 Kaoriyu wrote:
I'm planning to do an online audition and I am covering Im yours by Jason Mraz, I'm just trying to get the lyrics, beat and timings down before I even try. I don't think I'm bad looking I suppose but I am inspired by Nichkhun from 2PM who is Thai and debuted in 2PM when he was 18 which is my age right now.


There's a Toronto audition for JYP in beginning of June, should check it out if you live within a reasonable distance. There's 4 categories: dancer, singer, model, acting. Live audition is probably a higher chance than online audition. GL HF
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 23:43:35
May 05 2011 23:42 GMT
#24948
On May 06 2011 08:40 Kaoriyu wrote:
Oh my god 20 times? Holy crap. I'm going to try and work on my cover as much as possible until I feel it's fine.

I want to go for JYP because I think they are based off more 50% looks and 50% talent compared to SM where I think my prioritize looks more and YG where they absolutely require strong vocal talent.

I think if you're gunning big 3 you probably should just accept whoever will take you; the competition is just that tight and there's no guarantee that you'll be able to stay in the program. YG is notorious for taking like 4 people per go-round/year, then canning all of them when they're not good enough, etc. It's training program is tiny compared to others, something like no more than 5 teams at a time, and currently I think it's only like 2.

edit- @link and as far as I know they'll just decide what to do with you anyway, like Yoo In Na was training as a singer but became an actress.
mormes
Profile Joined May 2009
Brazil13 Posts
May 05 2011 23:43 GMT
#24949
there are some that accept non asian?
there was some non asian kpop idol ever?
Lovelyz
Kaoriyu
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada276 Posts
May 05 2011 23:43 GMT
#24950
I highly doubt I can afford a trip to Toronto until I graduate with a job in first year university. Is there a big difference between online and offline? If so what is it?
nalho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States351 Posts
May 05 2011 23:44 GMT
#24951
On May 06 2011 08:41 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 08:29 YaKool wrote:
On May 06 2011 08:26 DystopiaX wrote:
^other than being hot, you should be good at either singing and/or dancing, or otherwise incredibly hot (although that will probably get you further in SM or a smaller company). JYP is known for being really tough in auditions, 2nd only to YG; they've rejected a lot of current artists, probably most notably IU, who we all know is fucking amazing at singing and is pretty cute.

So basically be attractive and talented, and hope you get lucky.
edit- based on pre-debut photos of people I think being attractive is less important, more that the plastic surgery expert on hand thinks that they could do decent work on your face lol...
also alot of idols said they were consistently going to auditions...a lot said over a dozen before they got picked up so you should get used to rejection or do this thing once for fun or w/e.


He probably lives in NA so he probably has like once a year to audition to JYP unless he lives near the company

True, I meant it more as a "don't get your hopes up too high kind of thing. Doesn't SM also do Stateside auditions?

Also, I can understand why Goo Hara got rejected...hot as she is, she danced in her audition, and she can't really dance either.


Yeah he's probably gonna go through depression if he hopes too much through the online audition. SM JYP and I think YG also all do yearly auditions and for SM you can just go on saturdays any week if you live in LA

And I thought Goo Hara made through the auditions
IU said that goo hara was after her when she went to jyp and said that she searched online and found out goo hara passed
i'm jung/i translate bw sometimes
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 23:47:21
May 05 2011 23:46 GMT
#24952
Hara didn't pass, I am fairly certain, almost 100%

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WriterXiao8~~
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 05 2011 23:47 GMT
#24953
On May 06 2011 08:44 YaKool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 08:41 DystopiaX wrote:
On May 06 2011 08:29 YaKool wrote:
On May 06 2011 08:26 DystopiaX wrote:
^other than being hot, you should be good at either singing and/or dancing, or otherwise incredibly hot (although that will probably get you further in SM or a smaller company). JYP is known for being really tough in auditions, 2nd only to YG; they've rejected a lot of current artists, probably most notably IU, who we all know is fucking amazing at singing and is pretty cute.

So basically be attractive and talented, and hope you get lucky.
edit- based on pre-debut photos of people I think being attractive is less important, more that the plastic surgery expert on hand thinks that they could do decent work on your face lol...
also alot of idols said they were consistently going to auditions...a lot said over a dozen before they got picked up so you should get used to rejection or do this thing once for fun or w/e.


He probably lives in NA so he probably has like once a year to audition to JYP unless he lives near the company

True, I meant it more as a "don't get your hopes up too high kind of thing. Doesn't SM also do Stateside auditions?

Also, I can understand why Goo Hara got rejected...hot as she is, she danced in her audition, and she can't really dance either.


Yeah he's probably gonna go through depression if he hopes too much through the online audition. SM JYP and I think YG also all do yearly auditions and for SM you can just go on saturdays any week if you live in LA

And I thought Goo Hara made through the auditions
IU said that goo hara was after her when she went to jyp and said that she searched online and found out goo hara passed

hara made it to the "final" round but didn't end up being accepted AFAIK
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
May 05 2011 23:49 GMT
#24954
I don't know how the system works, I just saw the poster on one of the Kpop news sites.

I read that Taecyon from 2PM auditioned for modelling and I think he passed. The judges suggested that he be a dancer and so he trained and became 2PM member. Notice how he doesn't sing much (if at all?)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 23:53:14
May 05 2011 23:51 GMT
#24955
On May 06 2011 08:49 The_LiNk wrote:
I don't know how the system works, I just saw the poster on one of the Kpop news sites.

I read that Taecyon from 2PM auditioned for modelling and I think he passed. The judges suggested that he be a dancer and so he trained and became 2PM member. Notice how he doesn't sing much (if at all?)


2AM and 2PM were originally part of the same group(dunno their proposed name) I don't know why it didn't go through but they basically put all the vocals (Jo kwon, Jinsoon, Seulong etc) in 2AM and all the uh dancers/models in 2pm and made them a ,yeah well they don't really sing or anything, not impressive vocals either way but it is not needed.

2AM is basically a balad/vocal group and 2pm is like a dance/more generic pop group.
WriterXiao8~~
Kaoriyu
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 23:54:18
May 05 2011 23:53 GMT
#24956
On May 06 2011 08:43 mormes wrote:
there are some that accept non asian?
there was some non asian kpop idol ever?


I don't think that I have never heard of an non-asian in the Kpop industry. I know for a fact that you don't have to be Korean due to many Kpop groups having at least 1 Chinese member or so. Although I have heard that rania was suppose to have 1 member of African descent but that idea got cut.

Anyway I think my best bet for JYP is vocals or maybe acting. I'm just going to practice as hard as I can before I enter. I'll post here/upload my cover on youtube once I'm ready ^^
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
May 05 2011 23:59 GMT
#24957
This talk about Younha suddenly made me want to listen to her. I'm so behind! First time listening to "It's Beautiful" and it is awesome. ^^
Writer
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
May 06 2011 00:05 GMT
#24958
On May 06 2011 08:53 Kaoriyu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 08:43 mormes wrote:
there are some that accept non asian?
there was some non asian kpop idol ever?


I don't think that I have never heard of an non-asian in the Kpop industry. I know for a fact that you don't have to be Korean due to many Kpop groups having at least 1 Chinese member or so. Although I have heard that rania was suppose to have 1 member of African descent but that idea got cut.

Anyway I think my best bet for JYP is vocals or maybe acting. I'm just going to practice as hard as I can before I enter. I'll post here/upload my cover on youtube once I'm ready ^^


What's your background in music/arts? Are you some sort of ARCT Piano Art School Attending Korean?
nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
May 06 2011 00:31 GMT
#24959
On May 06 2011 08:43 Kaoriyu wrote:
I highly doubt I can afford a trip to Toronto until I graduate with a job in first year university. Is there a big difference between online and offline? If so what is it?

Online doesn't carry a lot of weight. People that often do online auditions have shitty cameras, shitty microphones, and even shittier talent. Fair amount of people sound "good" on youtube, 3% of them actually have the ability to project their vocals.
If you're going to get past online, you have to be very, very good looking.

On May 06 2011 08:40 Kaoriyu wrote:
Holy crap. I'm going to try and work on my cover as much as possible until I feel it's fine.

That won't be enough, bro. If you ever feel like you have done well, then your threshold for perfection will inevitably be a fair distance below the bar set by producers.
And you should not have just one song, a musician, especially a vocalist, needs to have a substantial repertoire they can pull from at any given time.

If you want any hopes of getting past trainee, you better be willing and able to set your prep-time to at least fourteen hours per day on your own. The pace they set for you should be a throttle down from your personal pace.
Now you must build the lies you have told. - Looking for Boram JP single trading card, have Jiyeon.
Kaoriyu
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada276 Posts
May 06 2011 00:43 GMT
#24960
On May 06 2011 09:31 nanashin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 08:43 Kaoriyu wrote:
I highly doubt I can afford a trip to Toronto until I graduate with a job in first year university. Is there a big difference between online and offline? If so what is it?

Online doesn't carry a lot of weight. People that often do online auditions have shitty cameras, shitty microphones, and even shittier talent. Fair amount of people sound "good" on youtube, 3% of them actually have the ability to project their vocals.
If you're going to get past online, you have to be very, very good looking.

Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 08:40 Kaoriyu wrote:
Holy crap. I'm going to try and work on my cover as much as possible until I feel it's fine.

That won't be enough, bro. If you ever feel like you have done well, then your threshold for perfection will inevitably be a fair distance below the bar set by producers.
And you should not have just one song, a musician, especially a vocalist, needs to have a substantial repertoire they can pull from at any given time.

If you want any hopes of getting past trainee, you better be willing and able to set your prep-time to at least fourteen hours per day on your own. The pace they set for you should be a throttle down from your personal pace.


Well I'll take your word for it. Only reason I'm doing one cover is to sound as good as possible in order to make an impression.

Also I did forget to mention that my teacher does have singing classes that I attend and she does know about this so I guess that she would be a good judge since she has recorded albums before and was a professional singer.
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