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SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
February 14 2011 03:42 GMT
#21861
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 14 2011 09:32 hideo wrote:
Does anybody on here follow infinity challenge?

some taeyeon:


Lol for once I totally agree with one of the Youtube comments:
"Just by looking at Teangoo, takes all your negativity thoughts away!!!"


iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
thebteam
Profile Joined January 2011
United States95 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 04:38:29
February 14 2011 04:38 GMT
#21862
On February 14 2011 11:44 rXs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 03:19 thebteam wrote:
On February 13 2011 21:37 T.O.P. wrote:
It's a Kara Plus F(x)

Speaking of f(x), anyone know when they are making their comeback?

they RErecorded the whole album because Amber decided to show up..

it was supposed to be a 4-member f(x) album.

so gonna take a while I guess.

That's too bad. Its been a while since there last promotions.
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 06:42:45
February 14 2011 06:28 GMT
#21863
On February 13 2011 21:37 T.O.P. wrote:
It's a Kara Plus F(x)

Best fanclub in the world.

i was pretty sure it kpf was kpopflash for short, but i guess kara plus f(x) is better. But does anybody here actually like f(x)? cause its been ages since there was a discussion about it, and when there was, it was just about amber missing.

and to the guy who said snsd ranked 1st during wg's tell me promotions, no, just no.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
February 14 2011 06:48 GMT
#21864
On February 14 2011 15:28 ace246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 21:37 T.O.P. wrote:
It's a Kara Plus F(x)

Best fanclub in the world.

But does anybody here actually like f(x)? cause its been ages since there was a discussion about it, and when there was, it was just about amber missing.

I like f(x) - amber. Amber doesn't belong in a girl group.

On February 14 2011 15:28 ace246 wrote:
and to the guy who said snsd ranked 1st during wg's tell me promotions, no, just no.

JYPE would have made so much more money if WG stayed in korea. JYP might be a fine producer, but he should stay out of the business end of the company. He's obviously a bad CEO.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
February 14 2011 07:00 GMT
#21865
^it's a gamble on JYPE's part. If they manage to make it in America then they'll make infinitely more money than if they stayed in Korea, but the thing is that it will be really hard. They've managed to chart a couple times but nowhere near the top, and the fact that there are still so many racists left in America will really hurt their sales. That and the fact that no one here is still into the girl group thing, and especially not the obviously corporate, simple/bubblegum brand that kpop is.
UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
February 14 2011 07:24 GMT
#21866
i loled at blaming racism in america for wonder girls failures. it could just be the fact that people don't want to hear engrish and shitty music in general you know?
i be that pretty motherfucker
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 07:40:56
February 14 2011 07:40 GMT
#21867
The contract termination dispute between KARA’s Seungyeon, Nicole, and Jiyoung against DSP Media has escalated into a legal battle.

On February 14th, representatives of the three members allegedly filed a lawsuit against DSP Media, asking the court to confirm that their three exclusive contracts were invalid. They claimed that their incomes were not distributed fairly.

Landmark previously sent notice to DSP Media regarding the termination of the three contracts on January 19th. Although the members resumed their scheduled activities, the two parties were not able to come to an agreement during their repeated attempts at reconciliation over the course of 25 days.

Through their head representative, the three members of KARA stated, “Without prior compromise, the agency deducted promotional fees from our income without our consent, which is classified under embezzlement. From January through June of 2010, we brought in $410,000 USD in income, while the promotional expenses amounted to $390,000 USD. The expenses are abnormally excessive.”

They continued, “Even when ‘Lupin‘ was at its highest point in popularity, DSP Media only paid $860 USD per member for a total of six months. The $140 USD that we were paid a month is unfair compared to the income that we brought in.”

The dispute’s escalation into a legal battle has caught both fans and industry representatives off guard, and many are speculating about what this could mean for KARA as a unit of five.


Source(http://www.allkpop.com/2011/02/karas-seungyeon-nicole-jiyoung-formally-file-a-lawsuit-against-dsp-media), well duh)
Good lord we ain't done yet.
WriterXiao8~~
mirai
Profile Joined December 2009
United States214 Posts
February 14 2011 07:43 GMT
#21868
On February 13 2011 21:53 Ixas wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reISXlrNeD4

I see Hyomin.


Godlike video.

Any HQ screencaps of this part right here?
I'm trying to look for something but can't quite find it in such low resolution.
[image loading]
HYOMIN SO GODLIKE!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 07:44:34
February 14 2011 07:43 GMT
#21869
On February 14 2011 16:24 UrASofty wrote:
i loled at blaming racism in america for wonder girls failures. it could just be the fact that people don't want to hear engrish and shitty music in general you know?

I'm not saying it's the only reason they're failing, but you can't deny that there's a subset of the American population, that when presented with an asian group singing, will hate on that group solely because they're asian. If you read the rest of my post you'll notice that I criticized kpop music in general as well. As for the engrish, I listened to the english version of some of their songs and if they can replicate that live (didn't take them 40+takes to get it right), then I don't think their english is that much of a problem.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
February 14 2011 07:54 GMT
#21870
On February 14 2011 16:24 UrASofty wrote:
i loled at blaming racism in america for wonder girls failures. it could just be the fact that people don't want to hear engrish and shitty music in general you know?

If it's shitty music then kpop wouldn't have such a big following worldwide.
On February 14 2011 16:00 DystopiaX wrote:
^it's a gamble on JYPE's part. If they manage to make it in America then they'll make infinitely more money than if they stayed in Korea, but the thing is that it will be really hard. They've managed to chart a couple times but nowhere near the top, and the fact that there are still so many racists left in America will really hurt their sales. That and the fact that no one here is still into the girl group thing, and especially not the obviously corporate, simple/bubblegum brand that kpop is.

Although racism plays a role, their lack of english skills really kill them. Kpop is all about communication from the artists to the fans. Compared to American artists, kpop celebrities are much more accessible. They're humble, poor, and hard working; all of which are attributes that normal people share. That's part of the attraction of kpop. But if you can't even communicate with your fans, you can't do that. That's also why Kara is popular in Japan instead of SNSD. Kara actually goes on shows and communicates in Japanese with their host.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
EunByuL
Profile Joined September 2010
Vietnam77 Posts
February 14 2011 08:10 GMT
#21871
On February 14 2011 15:28 ace246 wrote:
But does anybody here actually like f(x)? cause its been ages since there was a discussion about it, and when there was, it was just about amber missing.


Pick me! Pick me!

Dun care about amber though. I just want them to release some new songs, I'm not the kinda fan that cares about the singers over their music =D.
Tôi không
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
February 14 2011 08:14 GMT
#21872
f(x) hasn't been here in forever. Amber looks so out of place to me, but w/e. Everyone else is fine except Luna once she dyed her hair >_>
boomer hands
Consolidate
Profile Joined February 2010
United States829 Posts
February 14 2011 08:24 GMT
#21873
On February 14 2011 16:54 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 16:24 UrASofty wrote:
i loled at blaming racism in america for wonder girls failures. it could just be the fact that people don't want to hear engrish and shitty music in general you know?

If it's shitty music then kpop wouldn't have such a big following worldwide.
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 16:00 DystopiaX wrote:
^it's a gamble on JYPE's part. If they manage to make it in America then they'll make infinitely more money than if they stayed in Korea, but the thing is that it will be really hard. They've managed to chart a couple times but nowhere near the top, and the fact that there are still so many racists left in America will really hurt their sales. That and the fact that no one here is still into the girl group thing, and especially not the obviously corporate, simple/bubblegum brand that kpop is.

Although racism plays a role, their lack of english skills really kill them. Kpop is all about communication from the artists to the fans. Compared to American artists, kpop celebrities are much more accessible. They're humble, poor, and hard working; all of which are attributes that normal people share. That's part of the attraction of kpop. But if you can't even communicate with your fans, you can't do that. That's also why Kara is popular in Japan instead of SNSD. Kara actually goes on shows and communicates in Japanese with their host.


Shitty music can often have huge followings... (Beiber?).

Honestly, the reason that kpop will never make it in america is because it's just cringe-worthy in the eyes of many people. There is a reason why the last generation grew tired of 'boy/girl bands'.
Creature posessed the the spirit of inquiry and bloodlust - Adventure Time
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
February 14 2011 08:33 GMT
#21874
On February 14 2011 16:54 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 16:24 UrASofty wrote:
i loled at blaming racism in america for wonder girls failures. it could just be the fact that people don't want to hear engrish and shitty music in general you know?

If it's shitty music then kpop wouldn't have such a big following worldwide.
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 16:00 DystopiaX wrote:
^it's a gamble on JYPE's part. If they manage to make it in America then they'll make infinitely more money than if they stayed in Korea, but the thing is that it will be really hard. They've managed to chart a couple times but nowhere near the top, and the fact that there are still so many racists left in America will really hurt their sales. That and the fact that no one here is still into the girl group thing, and especially not the obviously corporate, simple/bubblegum brand that kpop is.

Although racism plays a role, their lack of english skills really kill them. Kpop is all about communication from the artists to the fans. Compared to American artists, kpop celebrities are much more accessible. They're humble, poor, and hard working; all of which are attributes that normal people share. That's part of the attraction of kpop. But if you can't even communicate with your fans, you can't do that. That's also why Kara is popular in Japan instead of SNSD. Kara actually goes on shows and communicates in Japanese with their host.

But you're not humble, poor, or hard working.
doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
February 14 2011 08:37 GMT
#21875
Kpop can eventually "make it" in the U.S. Of course not to the extent that it is perfectly assimilated into our culture, but it has the potential to be something more common place. Few years ago, I did not like K-pop because I simply didn't like the idea of listening to something I did not understand. However, watching starcraft streams, BW/GSL, I grew to like K-pop, and the culture surrounding it (variety shows, etc etc). Basically, you need to get people's attention to actually listen to the music with open ears.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
February 14 2011 09:17 GMT
#21876
On February 14 2011 17:37 doihy wrote:
Kpop can eventually "make it" in the U.S. Of course not to the extent that it is perfectly assimilated into our culture, but it has the potential to be something more common place. Few years ago, I did not like K-pop because I simply didn't like the idea of listening to something I did not understand. However, watching starcraft streams, BW/GSL, I grew to like K-pop, and the culture surrounding it (variety shows, etc etc). Basically, you need to get people's attention to actually listen to the music with open ears.



Here's why Americans don't care.

Kpop has some popularity in America only because asians are ethnocentric.

On February 14 2011 17:33 Kentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 16:54 T.O.P. wrote:
On February 14 2011 16:24 UrASofty wrote:
i loled at blaming racism in america for wonder girls failures. it could just be the fact that people don't want to hear engrish and shitty music in general you know?

If it's shitty music then kpop wouldn't have such a big following worldwide.
On February 14 2011 16:00 DystopiaX wrote:
^it's a gamble on JYPE's part. If they manage to make it in America then they'll make infinitely more money than if they stayed in Korea, but the thing is that it will be really hard. They've managed to chart a couple times but nowhere near the top, and the fact that there are still so many racists left in America will really hurt their sales. That and the fact that no one here is still into the girl group thing, and especially not the obviously corporate, simple/bubblegum brand that kpop is.

Although racism plays a role, their lack of english skills really kill them. Kpop is all about communication from the artists to the fans. Compared to American artists, kpop celebrities are much more accessible. They're humble, poor, and hard working; all of which are attributes that normal people share. That's part of the attraction of kpop. But if you can't even communicate with your fans, you can't do that. That's also why Kara is popular in Japan instead of SNSD. Kara actually goes on shows and communicates in Japanese with their host.

But you're not humble, poor, or hard working.

OFFTOPIC.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 14:43:05
February 14 2011 14:36 GMT
#21877
On February 14 2011 15:28 ace246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 21:37 T.O.P. wrote:
It's a Kara Plus F(x)

Best fanclub in the world.

i was pretty sure it kpf was kpopflash for short, but i guess kara plus f(x) is better. But does anybody here actually like f(x)? cause its been ages since there was a discussion about it, and when there was, it was just about amber missing.

and to the guy who said snsd ranked 1st during wg's tell me promotions, no, just no.


Can you stop? Seriously? Why do you insist on spilling out BS without any proof? Here, I'll go through what I said and even give you images to prove it so you don't have any chance of missing out.

What I said:

Oh, and as a side note to correct more of your misinformation, SNSD had two #1 wins in the middle of "Tell Me" promotions so no, I don't think there was all that much of a dodge.


What I said: SNSD won #1 on two music charts during Tell me promotions. I didn't say they were ranked 1st, I said they had two number one wins. But it doesn't even matter if they were ranked first or last. Your assumption that SNSD dodged WG somehow because of WG's popularity is at least partly false. Because they promoted at the same time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M!_Countdown
[image loading]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Music_Trend#2007
[image loading]

And before you go, HURR DURR SONE, the only reason I'm going through all this trouble is because I'm sick of your constant bashing and misinformation every time you post. We get it, you hate SNSD. Hell, I don't like SNSD that much myself. But can you stop spewing out completely wrong information and pretending that you know what you're talking about (i.e. - "I've been around for the good old days, they were so good I didn't even realize that ballad singers topped the charts consecutively for five years and I think that idols have always > singers lololol").
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
February 14 2011 15:17 GMT
#21878
DIMPLE

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
HOLY CHECK!
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 15:30:13
February 14 2011 15:27 GMT
#21879
This is getting waaaay too serious. Let's bring in the parodies:







Always smile~
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
February 14 2011 15:41 GMT
#21880
On February 14 2011 16:54 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 16:24 UrASofty wrote:
i loled at blaming racism in america for wonder girls failures. it could just be the fact that people don't want to hear engrish and shitty music in general you know?

If it's shitty music then kpop wouldn't have such a big following worldwide.
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 16:00 DystopiaX wrote:
^it's a gamble on JYPE's part. If they manage to make it in America then they'll make infinitely more money than if they stayed in Korea, but the thing is that it will be really hard. They've managed to chart a couple times but nowhere near the top, and the fact that there are still so many racists left in America will really hurt their sales. That and the fact that no one here is still into the girl group thing, and especially not the obviously corporate, simple/bubblegum brand that kpop is.

Although racism plays a role, their lack of english skills really kill them. Kpop is all about communication from the artists to the fans. Compared to American artists, kpop celebrities are much more accessible. They're humble, poor, and hard working; all of which are attributes that normal people share. That's part of the attraction of kpop. But if you can't even communicate with your fans, you can't do that. That's also why Kara is popular in Japan instead of SNSD. Kara actually goes on shows and communicates in Japanese with their host.



QFT...the Asian thing is so played out. Sure it's much harder for Asians to break through, but not impossible. I'm sure you guys all heard of Far East Movement and Jay Sean, both with #1 Billboard hits. The biggest issue is Kpop just doesn't translate to American music, which is more geared towards hip hop/electronic stuff these days. That's why it leads me to believe that 4Minute would be way more successful than the Wonder Girls, although the Engrish would be detrimental to them as well.

The biggest anomaly is how Latin artists are immune to the Engrish syndrome, I can't understand a damn thing Shakira says, and yet, she's insanely popular. Strange things
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