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FrozenFlare
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia103 Posts
February 14 2011 18:52 GMT
#21881
Most of you probably have seen it already but for the sake of discussion (if any):



So wadda ya think? I'm liking it but was hoping it to be better, she reminds me of Nicole Scherzinger....
Remember you are unique, just like everyone else.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
February 14 2011 21:05 GMT
#21882
On February 15 2011 00:41 kakaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 16:54 T.O.P. wrote:
On February 14 2011 16:24 UrASofty wrote:
i loled at blaming racism in america for wonder girls failures. it could just be the fact that people don't want to hear engrish and shitty music in general you know?

If it's shitty music then kpop wouldn't have such a big following worldwide.
On February 14 2011 16:00 DystopiaX wrote:
^it's a gamble on JYPE's part. If they manage to make it in America then they'll make infinitely more money than if they stayed in Korea, but the thing is that it will be really hard. They've managed to chart a couple times but nowhere near the top, and the fact that there are still so many racists left in America will really hurt their sales. That and the fact that no one here is still into the girl group thing, and especially not the obviously corporate, simple/bubblegum brand that kpop is.

Although racism plays a role, their lack of english skills really kill them. Kpop is all about communication from the artists to the fans. Compared to American artists, kpop celebrities are much more accessible. They're humble, poor, and hard working; all of which are attributes that normal people share. That's part of the attraction of kpop. But if you can't even communicate with your fans, you can't do that. That's also why Kara is popular in Japan instead of SNSD. Kara actually goes on shows and communicates in Japanese with their host.



QFT...the Asian thing is so played out. Sure it's much harder for Asians to break through, but not impossible. I'm sure you guys all heard of Far East Movement and Jay Sean, both with #1 Billboard hits. The biggest issue is Kpop just doesn't translate to American music, which is more geared towards hip hop/electronic stuff these days. That's why it leads me to believe that 4Minute would be way more successful than the Wonder Girls, although the Engrish would be detrimental to them as well.

Most people don't even know that FEM is Asian. Americans probably assume that they are African American. That's why they're able to obtain popularity though. Their music isn't Asian, it's American.
On February 15 2011 00:41 kakaman wrote:
The biggest anomaly is how Latin artists are immune to the Engrish syndrome, I can't understand a damn thing Shakira says, and yet, she's insanely popular. Strange things

Americans think sexy foreign women are exotic. That's why BoA made two music videos for Eat U Up. First one is for Korea, second one is for America.




In America, studying and following rules doesn't make you cool. But Asians tend to do both, that's why Asian artists aren't cool.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
February 14 2011 21:42 GMT
#21883
On February 15 2011 06:05 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2011 00:41 kakaman wrote:
On February 14 2011 16:54 T.O.P. wrote:
On February 14 2011 16:24 UrASofty wrote:
i loled at blaming racism in america for wonder girls failures. it could just be the fact that people don't want to hear engrish and shitty music in general you know?

If it's shitty music then kpop wouldn't have such a big following worldwide.
On February 14 2011 16:00 DystopiaX wrote:
^it's a gamble on JYPE's part. If they manage to make it in America then they'll make infinitely more money than if they stayed in Korea, but the thing is that it will be really hard. They've managed to chart a couple times but nowhere near the top, and the fact that there are still so many racists left in America will really hurt their sales. That and the fact that no one here is still into the girl group thing, and especially not the obviously corporate, simple/bubblegum brand that kpop is.

Although racism plays a role, their lack of english skills really kill them. Kpop is all about communication from the artists to the fans. Compared to American artists, kpop celebrities are much more accessible. They're humble, poor, and hard working; all of which are attributes that normal people share. That's part of the attraction of kpop. But if you can't even communicate with your fans, you can't do that. That's also why Kara is popular in Japan instead of SNSD. Kara actually goes on shows and communicates in Japanese with their host.



QFT...the Asian thing is so played out. Sure it's much harder for Asians to break through, but not impossible. I'm sure you guys all heard of Far East Movement and Jay Sean, both with #1 Billboard hits. The biggest issue is Kpop just doesn't translate to American music, which is more geared towards hip hop/electronic stuff these days. That's why it leads me to believe that 4Minute would be way more successful than the Wonder Girls, although the Engrish would be detrimental to them as well.

Most people don't even know that FEM is Asian. Americans probably assume that they are African American. That's why they're able to obtain popularity though. Their music isn't Asian, it's American.
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2011 00:41 kakaman wrote:
The biggest anomaly is how Latin artists are immune to the Engrish syndrome, I can't understand a damn thing Shakira says, and yet, she's insanely popular. Strange things

Americans think sexy foreign women are exotic. That's why BoA made two music videos for Eat U Up. First one is for Korea, second one is for America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLnr2u_nj10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhGzv3xplM8

In America, studying and following rules doesn't make you cool. But Asians tend to do both, that's why Asian artists aren't cool.


Comon man, that's clearly not true. The group's name is Far East Movement, they don't make it a secret that they are Asian. Also, in the Internet age, would people really mistaken them for Black? Seriously now, the MV for Like a G6 has 50mm views on youtube, everyone knows they are Asian.

And the thing with BoA, even with 2 MVs, they still bombed. The song just wasn't that great, and didn't cater to American audiences.


YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
February 14 2011 22:42 GMT
#21884
Shakira's insanely popular because those hips don't lie.
안지호
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
February 15 2011 01:43 GMT
#21885
On February 15 2011 06:42 kakaman wrote:
Comon man, that's clearly not true. The group's name is Far East Movement, they don't make it a secret that they are Asian. Also, in the Internet age, would people really mistaken them for Black? Seriously now, the MV for Like a G6 has 50mm views on youtube, everyone knows they are Asian.

And the thing with BoA, even with 2 MVs, they still bombed. The song just wasn't that great, and didn't cater to American audiences.


What? of course the number of people on the internet know that they are asian the first time they see it, but to the average club goer(this track was produced for dance clubs) wouldn't know they are asian if they watched the MV. Why do you ask? they're all wearing glasses and the catchy chorus is done by some white gurl. They used to do this alot even in asian pop groups, if some1 has super small eyes the company makes them wear glasses. I'm not saying their record label made them wear glasses, but IMO they wore them to appear 'less' asian and also as a stylistic view for their new album.

And the thing with BoA, even with 2 MVs, they still bombed. The song just wasn't that great, and didn't cater to American audiences.

The songs bombed because BoA's english is terrible and she has a fob accent, even alot of american born asians tend to make fun of fobs, the lyrics were also dumb as fuck. ILL EAT YOU UP, SO YUM YUM? this is something an 8 year old vietnam gurl says for money. I know this because Ixas told me.

You can't fight the feeling.
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
February 15 2011 02:08 GMT
#21886
On February 15 2011 10:43 lokiM wrote:
I know this because Ixas told me.


Lololol I can't stop laughing.

I'm a BoA fan, but I agree that song kind of sucks. The lyrics are ridiculous, and she has a noticeable accent that most people can't ignore.

If only there were a way to take her early-2000s talent and translate it into something marketable in the USA.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmDOVQZw7eM


Also, does anyone have good, large images of HSY? I'm looking for more wallpapers, and realized I'm missing quite a few idols that I would very much like to have in my collection.
안지호
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51647 Posts
February 15 2011 02:17 GMT
#21887
[image loading]

anyone want to guess?
Commentator
Tippany
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States765 Posts
February 15 2011 02:23 GMT
#21888
On February 15 2011 11:08 DTK-m2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2011 10:43 lokiM wrote:
I know this because Ixas told me.



Also, does anyone have good, large images of HSY? I'm looking for more wallpapers, and realized I'm missing quite a few idols that I would very much like to have in my collection.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Real action, my dream.
candlejackisgonn
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States159 Posts
February 15 2011 06:40 GMT
#21889
On February 15 2011 11:08 DTK-m2 wrote:
Also, does anyone have good, large images of HSY? I'm looking for more wallpapers, and realized I'm missing quite a few idols that I would very much like to have in my collection.


Stolen from earlier in this thread :D

[image loading]
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
February 15 2011 07:15 GMT
#21890
On February 15 2011 15:40 candlejackisgonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2011 11:08 DTK-m2 wrote:
Also, does anyone have good, large images of HSY? I'm looking for more wallpapers, and realized I'm missing quite a few idols that I would very much like to have in my collection.


Stolen from earlier in this thread :D

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I misread your name as "coinjacksonisgood" and was about to flame you.

Now I kinda wish it was...
boomer hands
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-15 07:40:45
February 15 2011 07:33 GMT
#21891
On February 14 2011 23:36 DarkOptik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 15:28 ace246 wrote:
On February 13 2011 21:37 T.O.P. wrote:
It's a Kara Plus F(x)

Best fanclub in the world.

i was pretty sure it kpf was kpopflash for short, but i guess kara plus f(x) is better. But does anybody here actually like f(x)? cause its been ages since there was a discussion about it, and when there was, it was just about amber missing.

and to the guy who said snsd ranked 1st during wg's tell me promotions, no, just no.


Can you stop? Seriously? Why do you insist on spilling out BS without any proof? Here, I'll go through what I said and even give you images to prove it so you don't have any chance of missing out.

What I said:
Show nested quote +

Oh, and as a side note to correct more of your misinformation, SNSD had two #1 wins in the middle of "Tell Me" promotions so no, I don't think there was all that much of a dodge.


What I said: SNSD won #1 on two music charts during Tell me promotions. I didn't say they were ranked 1st, I said they had two number one wins. But it doesn't even matter if they were ranked first or last. Your assumption that SNSD dodged WG somehow because of WG's popularity is at least partly false. Because they promoted at the same time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M!_Countdown
[image loading]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Music_Trend#2007
[image loading]

And before you go, HURR DURR SONE, the only reason I'm going through all this trouble is because I'm sick of your constant bashing and misinformation every time you post. We get it, you hate SNSD. Hell, I don't like SNSD that much myself. But can you stop spewing out completely wrong information and pretending that you know what you're talking about (i.e. - "I've been around for the good old days, they were so good I didn't even realize that ballad singers topped the charts consecutively for five years and I think that idols have always > singers lololol").


but i have been around before in the good old days, as hard as it is to believe. All i said to you was no and before that i just said that SME released songs for snsd without clashing with wg. No bashing whatsoever. And i'm not BSing, i meant something else but worded it too short.

Sure i did make negative comments about snsd (or at least sones, i dont recall commenting snsd), but that was ages ago.

The part about snsd avoiding wg isn't a lie, its just that they don't avoid all the time, i.e not all of their promotions are at the same time (like 2 thirds of it was done in different time, makes you wonder)
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
February 15 2011 07:41 GMT
#21892
looks like we're gonna stick with "my life for 아이유" for kpop thread group for WL 2.


ballads? MMM YES
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
February 15 2011 07:43 GMT
#21893
On February 15 2011 16:41 Katsuge wrote:
looks like we're gonna stick with "my life for 아이유" for kpop thread group for WL 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dQVt8IjZr8

ballads? MMM YES

I'm ok with that...
boomer hands
doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
February 15 2011 07:56 GMT
#21894
On February 15 2011 16:43 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2011 16:41 Katsuge wrote:
looks like we're gonna stick with "my life for 아이유" for kpop thread group for WL 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dQVt8IjZr8

ballads? MMM YES

I'm ok with that...


SHIT JUST GOT REAL!! She better be in the MV!
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
February 15 2011 18:26 GMT
#21895
On February 15 2011 11:17 GTR wrote:
[image loading]

anyone want to guess?


That's lizzy
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
February 16 2011 00:06 GMT
#21896
the key question is not who is that a picture of but who took the picture
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
February 16 2011 01:25 GMT
#21897
AKP fail translation. Scared me a bit.

http://www.allkpop.com/2011/02/han-seungyeons-father-blames-leader-park-gyuri-for-kara-dsp-media-dispute
http://twitter.com/#!/allkpop/status/37677096876642304
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
February 16 2011 01:29 GMT
#21898
Article got taken down >.>
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Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
February 16 2011 02:31 GMT
#21899
WOOOO
COIN JACKSON DEBUT SINGLE RELEASED! They have another awesome song with great music and great singing.

HOLY CHECK!
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
February 16 2011 02:43 GMT
#21900
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 15 2011 11:17 GTR wrote:
[image loading]

anyone want to guess?

Lizzy ezpz chocolate squeezee

BUt why stalk her GTR!? This is too much..-_-
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
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