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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9063 Posts
September 01 2017 23:08 GMT
#122361
This episode of MiA has be beginning to really not like Riko. You can only be so helpless.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 02 2017 02:47 GMT
#122362
On September 02 2017 08:08 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
This episode of MiA has be beginning to really not like Riko. You can only be so helpless.

Took you long enough
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IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-02 03:15:15
September 02 2017 03:14 GMT
#122363
MiA will live and die depending on how much screentime ozen gets.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
September 02 2017 03:33 GMT
#122364
Did someone else watched this week's 18if? Between this and Vatican, I'm not sure which is crazier...
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9063 Posts
September 02 2017 03:43 GMT
#122365
On September 02 2017 11:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2017 08:08 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
This episode of MiA has be beginning to really not like Riko. You can only be so helpless.

Took you long enough

I knew she was helpless and pretty much useless, but this episode just really reinforced it. I love the story and design, but some of the characters are hit or miss. Riko had promise, now she's just an accessory to Reg.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-02 04:22:18
September 02 2017 04:21 GMT
#122366
On September 02 2017 12:14 IceHism wrote:
MiA will live and die depending on how much screentime ozen gets.

Pretty much this. The Abyss is the main attraction of the show (storywise) and the White Whistles seem to be the only interesting charas. So this basically means it should be the Ozen Show if we want any progress or Riko quickly meets other WWs.

On September 02 2017 12:43 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2017 11:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
On September 02 2017 08:08 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
This episode of MiA has be beginning to really not like Riko. You can only be so helpless.

Took you long enough

I knew she was helpless and pretty much useless, but this episode just really reinforced it. I love the story and design, but some of the characters are hit or miss. Riko had promise, now she's just an accessory to Reg.

I'm not sure if it's that I expected MiA to follow some shounen formula but the Abyss is depicted as this dangerous place, somewhere charas can die if they're not careful. So you expect some sort of competency from the MC, esp if she wants to dive head first into the Abyss for something as basic as "trying to find her long lost mom". Except Riko's a kid with no redeeming traits in the world of MiA.
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9063 Posts
September 02 2017 04:50 GMT
#122367
On September 02 2017 13:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2017 12:14 IceHism wrote:
MiA will live and die depending on how much screentime ozen gets.

Pretty much this. The Abyss is the main attraction of the show (storywise) and the White Whistles seem to be the only interesting charas. So this basically means it should be the Ozen Show if we want any progress or Riko quickly meets other WWs.

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2017 12:43 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On September 02 2017 11:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
On September 02 2017 08:08 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
This episode of MiA has be beginning to really not like Riko. You can only be so helpless.

Took you long enough

I knew she was helpless and pretty much useless, but this episode just really reinforced it. I love the story and design, but some of the characters are hit or miss. Riko had promise, now she's just an accessory to Reg.

I'm not sure if it's that I expected MiA to follow some shounen formula but the Abyss is depicted as this dangerous place, somewhere charas can die if they're not careful. So you expect some sort of competency from the MC, esp if she wants to dive head first into the Abyss for something as basic as "trying to find her long lost mom". Except Riko's a kid with no redeeming traits in the world of MiA.

Agreed. I feel like there's not enough going on in the scenes. It's just Riko and Reg trying not to die most of the time. But the animals are somewhat uninteresting or not shown enough, so you can't care any less about them.
Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
September 02 2017 14:28 GMT
#122368
On September 02 2017 12:43 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2017 11:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
On September 02 2017 08:08 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
This episode of MiA has be beginning to really not like Riko. You can only be so helpless.

Took you long enough

I knew she was helpless and pretty much useless, but this episode just really reinforced it. I love the story and design, but some of the characters are hit or miss. Riko had promise, now she's just an accessory to Reg.

The filler in this episode screwed her over. In the manga everything between 7 and 21 minutes doesn't happen, what happens instead is+ Show Spoiler [manga version of episode 9] +
they only encounter the splitjaw inside the ship and fight him. Reg considers using his laser but Riko distracts the splitjaw by throwing a relic at him, allowing Reg to simply use brute force to get rid of him. afterwards it skips to where Reg discovers the fourth layer

The third layer was incredibly rushed in the manga so the anime original stuff is nice, but it made Riko appear even less competent than she really is.
Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9063 Posts
September 02 2017 15:32 GMT
#122369
My hero Academia is good. Can't wait for the upcoming fight + Show Spoiler +
between bakugo, midoriya, and all might
. That's going to be something. I think they changed the format in the anime from the manga to either draw out the anime or to condense it. Either way, only 3 more episodes to go. I thought they would have gotten further but I guess they're going for the One Piece method of longevity.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-02 15:57:24
September 02 2017 15:40 GMT
#122370
I'm really not seeing how you can compare the way the anime is being produced to one piece or any other shounen series that runs continuously.
I also still have no idea why anyone thought they were going further, we've had 1 anime original episode based on a side story the manga didn't show much from and other than that it has been following the manga nearly 1:1 with the more or less exact same pacing as s1.

I mean, from almost half a year ago:
On April 09 2017 04:31 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2017 04:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
BnHA should end at the beginning of the stain arc, imho. The festival should take a couple of episodes. (basing this off of how many arcs we are in the manga compared to the anime). If it hits the end of the stain arc, then we are only 2 arcs away from one of the greatest battles in the manga so far. And I think that should be held off for now. The next two arcs after the festival can be done in one season.

bnha is almost certainly ending at the + Show Spoiler +
end of the arc where they fight their teachers

based on pacing from s1 and the first 2 episodes so far

I could predict basically exactly where it was ending.

If we were going to cover the next two arcs as a lot of people for some reason thought we were going to this season would've been so fucking rushed having to cover 60% more chapters.

Edit: If i wanted to predict exactly where they're ending the season it might be chapter 69 as it's probably the best natural ending point that we have at the moment.

Season 1 (13 episodes): Chapter 1-21 (With the first 4 episodes having extra slow pacing) = 1.6 chapters per episode
Season 2 (25 episodes): Chapter 22-69 (With 1 episode of anime original content) = 1.9 chapters per episode
However if we ignore those 4 slow episodes we're left with season 1 also having a pacing of 1.9 chapters per episode.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9063 Posts
September 02 2017 16:11 GMT
#122371
I had typed up a reply to this but I don't know where it went. But basically I was hoping it would get to the start of the training camp and not end here. Or before the final match.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-02 16:25:18
September 02 2017 16:21 GMT
#122372
That would be way too rushed and without a good place to end the story without it just being an annoying cliffhanger. You don't start an arc and then end at the start of it at the end of the season, you should end before the arc begins for the best way to end the season.
We're probably getting an 1 cour season 3 that adapts up to chapter 97 or so, if i had to guess.

Edit: Unless you mean the final match of the arc they just started, in which case we're almost certainly gonna finish this arc up, including the final match.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9063 Posts
September 02 2017 16:30 GMT
#122373
Yeah. Finish this arc and show the start of the training camp. With them on the bus or getting off the bus. The whole class is there and they can end it without going any further. The anime is probably going to go on hiatus or the manga is gonna have to pick up substantially to stay ahead. The thing about Naruto, Bleach, and OP, is that they didn't start immediately after the manga gained popularity. They had a good head start. Black Clover is an example. The manga is pacing well, but I think the anime is going to have some filler/OC that allows the manga to get further ahead. Gintama is another example. They're adapting pretty much 1:1 or better, but there's a lot that is getting left out as well, imo. They're trying to end this really quick in the anime, although I could go forever with more Gintama.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-02 16:37:33
September 02 2017 16:37 GMT
#122374
But if you show the start of the training camp arc you're starting one arc up and then just ending after the arc has begun, that's an absolutely horrible way to end a season imo, especially when you have chapters like 69 to end it on which are stellar ways to wrap the season up.

Also you seem very confused or like someone who has misunderstood something. Because the bnha anime isn't going on hiatus, it's ending. What's airing right now is a 2 cour season 2 and we're near the end of the second cour, so of course it's gonna end, that's all they planned to make for now. That's not a hiatus, it's a clear cut end. Season 3 might be announced, it probably will be, but it's very different from a hiatus. This is why i do not get your comparison with series like for example naruto that ran indefinitely and as such had to add a ton of filler to not run out of material, this is a completely different situation.

Same with black clover, i highly doubt that its anime will run indefinitely, it's likely one or two cours and that's it, for now.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9063 Posts
September 02 2017 16:43 GMT
#122375
The animes that just end after 2 seasons probably won't come back for years. And by that time, I'm not gonna be interested to watch it again. Gintama has done 3 major arcs in 3 seasons and skipped all filler. They're pushing to end the manga and anime around the same time. Which is probably going to happen given the story in the manga is at the final battle. The anime is picking up this arc and will more than likely run 2 cours and then end.

BNHA ends at the training arc would pull a bleach, for sure, but I'd rather have that potential than end with the final match and then who knows. Even if they get a 3rd season, they'll only do the training camp and probably won't get to one of the best fights in the series. If that's the case, then I would want them to just stop.

I don't believe that BNHA will just stop and end without finishing this story. It doesn't make sense.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-02 16:55:14
September 02 2017 16:53 GMT
#122376
On September 03 2017 01:43 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
The animes that just end after 2 seasons probably won't come back for years. And by that time, I'm not gonna be interested to watch it again. Gintama has done 3 major arcs in 3 seasons and skipped all filler. They're pushing to end the manga and anime around the same time. Which is probably going to happen given the story in the manga is at the final battle. The anime is picking up this arc and will more than likely run 2 cours and then end.

BNHA ends at the training arc would pull a bleach, for sure, but I'd rather have that potential than end with the final match and then who knows. Even if they get a 3rd season, they'll only do the training camp and probably won't get to one of the best fights in the series. If that's the case, then I would want them to just stop.

I don't believe that BNHA will just stop and end without finishing this story. It doesn't make sense.

Plenty of series don't get new seasons until years later, it's really not uncommon. Sometimes it's because they're out of source material for now, sometimes it's because they simply aren't interested in producing more, it varies from series to series.
bnha is one of WSJs new flagship titles, so it is almost a matter of certainty that it will get another season eventually, especially when the anime itself is pulling in such great viewership.
However the current season ending is not the same as it taking a hiatus, one season is ending and we have to wait for another to be announced.
At first they agreed with BONES to make season 1. Then they agreed with BONES to make season 2. And now we have to hope that they agree with BONES to make season 3, they could also be moving to a different studio (i hope not) or they could be waiting a year or two before they decide to make more, we really don't know (Although it is unlikely they'll wait very long).
Look at a show like Haikyuu, it's also one of WSJs big titles but we currently don't know when or if we're getting more of the anime because they haven't currently agreed with a studio to produce more.

Also, season 3 will not cover only the training camp, that's only 13 chapters, even for a single cour that'd be the most painfully slow pacing, it is almost certainly adapting the arc following it too.

Also, the sad truth is that a lot of series end up with the anime version never concluding or finishing the story, that's just the state of the industry.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9063 Posts
September 02 2017 17:02 GMT
#122377
Agreed. BNHA has too much potential to not continue going. And I just hate that feeling of not seeing some of the best fights be animated. Bleach is the most obvious culprit. BNHA might be that way as well. I'm sure they'll be another season announced, it's just what are they going to adapt. The next two arcs would be dope, but I think it would be wise to give the arc after the training camp it's own season. They need to really take their time with that one.

Look at Akashic Records or My Magic Doll. Those two should have been announced already, but they're just gonna sit on the sidelines (unless AR has been announced and I missed it).
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
September 02 2017 20:38 GMT
#122378
Finally got around to watching Gamers. Great Episode, couldn't stop laughing! Can't wait for the next one.
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
September 02 2017 23:09 GMT
#122379
A week without Symphogear feels pretty weird even though I think AXZ is somewhat boring at the moment.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 03 2017 16:16 GMT
#122380
Conflicting feelings about Apo 10. + Show Spoiler +
One one hand Yay Mordred being a badass on the other FRAN NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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