Anime Discussion Thread - Page 6107

Guy meets women, marries her because it's his mission but eventually legit falls in love. He confesses to what's going on then they run away together before being caught. She gets locked up and monitored daily in a hospital by Peter and Franz while he is killed. She vows revenge for what they did to her and her husband through her twins, Johan and Anna. They never did say what they wanted to name them, so I'll refer to them by these names. After release from the hospital, they move into the house near the three frogs sign and dress alike (a bit weird to me, why dress Johan as a girl? they have some resemblance but they look different enough).

Anyways, eventually, Peter and Franz come to collect a child for their experiment. Mother being conflicted, offers up Johan first then decides to give Anna instead. Whether this was a conscious deliberate decision or a mistaken is unknown. The ending in the hospital seems to imply that Johan believes that it was a mistake and their mother meant to give him up. After all, Johan mentions how the mother couldn't even tell them apart (guessing at times). Anna gets dragged out, taken to the red rose mansion where she is kept in complete darkness then eventually reintroduced into the world. She sees the massacre infront of her eyes.

By then, it seems that Franz had fallen in love with her mother and so, he told her to run away. She makes her way back to the apartment where only Johan is. Tells him the whole story and he basically takes it in. Anna claims that he was about to tear up at some point but he takes the whole story in as if he's underwent the same treatment. From there, they burn the apartment and escape towards the border. He kills the old couple who was going to call the police on them and eventually, they collapse near the border. From there, she goes to a foster home and he lands in Kinderhein where he starts the rebellion and escapes unscathed. He keeps jumping from one place to another and essentially manipulating people, run the blackmarket bank etc... guess to see how far he can go.

So, here's my question. Might seem to be an odd one but everything that Johan did, sure, he wanted to erase memories of himself from others, basically, become much like the monster in the story. However, he kept talking about the monster within him growing and then later stated that the monster is actually outside, aka referring to Franz. The whole killing that he did, aside from erasing the memories of others, it was meant to also get some revenge, wasn't it? Basically, he killed to protect his sister too? Sounds odd and I'm probably way wrong on this but was it guilt he felt? It would make sense as to why he wanted her to shoot him. After all, she went through so much at the hands of Peter and Franz and so did their mother.

The only thing is, this reason feels a bit, I dunno, wrong or way off base. It still doesn't explain why he even bothered to kill all the couples etc... At one point when I was still watching, I thought that maybe the two of them had some shared memory or one of the same or something until more info was revealed. To me, it just seems odd that he would even feel any guilt but if not for that, is this a case of him just wanting to see how far he can get? I could probably read more on this but figured I can get a faster answer to my question here.

after they just finished taking the throne back.

Heal, move from one place to another, paralyze a large group of enemies using his smartphone etc... It's funny to see but haha, no challenge for this MC or his party.