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XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
August 14 2017 03:22 GMT
#122081
At first, I didn't like the ending of Owari S2. Thought it was the typical all is good.

But after reading a little on reddit, I think it's a good ending. The characters all grew up ; I think it tie up everything nicely.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1945 Posts
August 14 2017 07:05 GMT
#122082
Yesterday visited a friend and he showed me samurai champloo which I hadn't seen for some reason.
It's been a while since a first episode has impressed me so much.
So charming, and absolutely loving the performance of the voice actors.
I don't believe you.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
August 14 2017 07:17 GMT
#122083
On August 14 2017 16:05 abuse wrote:
Yesterday visited a friend and he showed me samurai champloo which I hadn't seen for some reason.
It's been a while since a first episode has impressed me so much.
So charming, and absolutely loving the performance of the voice actors.


One of my favorites.

+1 for Nujabes
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9063 Posts
August 14 2017 13:54 GMT
#122084
On August 14 2017 16:05 abuse wrote:
Yesterday visited a friend and he showed me samurai champloo which I hadn't seen for some reason.
It's been a while since a first episode has impressed me so much.
So charming, and absolutely loving the performance of the voice actors.

Now that you've been exposed, go listen to everything you can find by Nujabes and join us.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 14 2017 15:12 GMT
#122085
On August 14 2017 05:58 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 05:37 Numy wrote:
Is it just a coincidence that My Hero Academia and One Punch Man have very similar settings?

Don't think so, especially not considering certain aspects that are explored and two specific characters in both settings. (not gonna mention which because spoilers and too lazy for multiple spoilers each time i switch from talking about one series to another(+ OPM anime vs manga vs webcomic, too much of a hassle)
I firmly believe Hori (bnha author) at least to some degree took some inspiration from OPM, he's also a huge fan of the super hero comics of the west so i think it's a given that he's been reading OPM given its super hero setting.

I like both a lot tho, bnha with its more serious approach and OPM with its less serious approach. Both are probably my two favourite series to follow atm (bnha manga and OPM webcomic, specifically. bnha anime is also amazing tho and OPM manga is finally getting back on track after 1½ year of manga original stuff.)


I don't read the manga so wasn't sure about the timeline, seemed pretty dam close together to be merely a coincidence. Just noticed how dam similar the settings were while I was watching last night. Thought maybe the authors may have mentioned something. Definitely pretty cool stuff and like what he's doing. It is a bit weird that the Japanese manage to write Superman better than the creators themselves lol. Can you imagine Henry Cavil being the beacon of peace?? There's a lot of inspiration from other sources but execution of his own ideas are enough to make it enjoyable.

Just finished S1 and while it was pretty fun I hope things bit more creative. While is enjoyable seeing an unflinching Superman power through I do like the more ingenious fighting you see in HxH for example. The quirk system is interesting in that it just lets the author do whatever he wants but I kind of miss carefully crafted rules like Nen or Allomancy.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-14 15:45:14
August 14 2017 15:42 GMT
#122086
OPM webcomic is from 2009 while bnha manga is from 2014

You'll like s2 i think as it goes somewhat more into detail with how quirks function for their users, but ultimately they're too varied and unique for a real rule based system to really function, however the individual restrictions and limitations of quirks do exist, they aren't free from rules but they're more on a quirk-by-quirk basis with few exceptions and general rules

Also All Might is an amazing character
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-14 16:17:14
August 14 2017 16:06 GMT
#122087
wanted to get some sleep in and let owarimonogatari sink in before writing a bit more in detail about my thoughts on it but here we go:

For me, this was the best Monogatari has been since season2. So I'd personally say Season2 + Owari-s2 have been the strongest parts for me. It's a good ending to what has been 8 years of monogatari. Truthfully a fair bit less for me since I jumped on the wagon only when I got in here but you get the idea.
+ Show Spoiler +
If I had to rank the individual arcs I'd consider Mayoi hell to be slightly weaker than Hitagi Rendezvous and Ougi Dark. I'd disagree on the point that the scenery and artistic background was not needed. Especially going for that artstyle they generally only use for ED's and using it in the episode itself got some smiles out of me as I'm a big fan of that. Generally felt like the weird Shaft art helped here since it's suppsed to be... well... hell
Hitagi Rendesvouz was obviously godlike. Not quite on the same level as the date at the end of Bakemonogatari in pure terms of quality for me but we got lots more with some Ougi in between so I won't complain. Seeing her go out of her way to get that date was just plain glorious. As well as all those minor things like not being able to perform her own OP song when doing Karaoke. Trying to get him to call her by her first name was cute and the only thing I had to complain about is that I for some reason thought her voice was lower than it used to be. Not sure if that's true, have not double checked that yet
And then the big finale we had with Ougi Dark. I still maintain that it should be a weird watch if you didn't catch that she was pretending to be the Darkness/involved with the Darkness back in season2 and everything inbetween going as far as to heavily imply that she "killed" Hachikuji or at the very least was involved in it when talking with Araragi etcetc.
Or I'd assume so as the "twist" that she was only fooling him/viewers into thinking so without actually being involved with it at all really doesn't do anything for you if you didn't think so in the first place. As I said in an earlier spoiler, it was hard to explain without spoiling big time though...
Anyways, glorious finale between Ougi and Araragi and really nice to see him stand up for himself and getting past that usual thing of his we got to see again in the end of Mayoi hell earlier.
I've got to say the music in particular got me this time around. I always find some tracks of the OST that I love after the fact. Going back to youtube, searching for that one specific track that ran in a specific scene and such, but with this I've come to realize much more how much I like the music while watching than previously I guess?


All in all this has been a great ending to this series. So good in fact that I wonder wether they'll continue to adapt after this or call it a day. I've said before that I want to see Zoku, Off-season and Monster-season as well as that's all stuff I have no idea about. But this ending was
a) so good that I wouldn't mind them ending it here. At least for the anime and leave the rest to books only and
b) from reading the synopsis of Zoku I can't help but get the feeling that it's a glorified victory lap
Let me be clear once more, that's speculation on my point and I really don't know what it's like yet but that's the idea I get from it.
+ Show Spoiler [just me ranting a bit, no spoiler] +

Off-season obviously would be something different so the question is wether or not Monster-season will be a true start to a new season but that seems incredibly hard to pull off.
Monogatari has always been this large overarching story we came closer to figuring out with every new book, with every new season. Be it the season1 stuff from Bake-,Nise-Kizu- and Nekomonogatari that provided the introduction for this series, Season 2 that got more into the nitty-gritty and finally all the s3 stuff that provided the conclusion to all this. It has always been that epic overarching story for us. So that's the point that makes me wonder if it's able to pull that off.

Is he going to ignore that? Is it just going to be a self-contained s4? That again, to me, would probably feel like victory laps more than anything else. I'd still love them but they'd never be able to step ouf of the shadow of the season1-3 stuff for me personally.
The alternative might be to start a new "overarching arc". That's a possibility given the setting of Shinobumonogatari. But that might involve getting rid of characters that aren't relevant anymore and get at least some new maincharacters to really make it feel like it's a start of a new chapter.
I don't see Araragi, Shinobu or Hitagi going anywhere in the future but I don't see him being awfully involved with Nadeko either to give an example. (Yes I know Nademonogatari is a thing but that seems like a sidestory more than anything else to me)
So long story short: That might annoy a large amount of fans who happen to like a certain character.


So long long story short, I think I'm really good with this being the end for the anime. Maybe give me ZokuOwarimonogatari as a special and that's it.


///FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART:
+ Show Spoiler [Owari ending] +
AWWWWW THAT SHINOBU ENDING :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
August 14 2017 16:33 GMT
#122088
^Off-season is in production
Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 14 2017 16:40 GMT
#122089
ahhhh right I remember seeing that... idk how I could forget it. I think I even posted a screen myself either in here or irc. So much for the rant I guess but we'll still see what it's like~
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
August 15 2017 01:35 GMT
#122090
On August 14 2017 04:42 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 20:23 felisconcolori wrote:
On August 13 2017 13:07 Toadesstern wrote:
I just want to rewatch first episode of Owarimonogatari s2 so badly ... it looked so good... but there's more to watch. What to do.

nvm, looping the OP for the next couple hours

//edit, I really shouldn't try typing at 6am in the morning, but a bit of an infodump because it took me 5-10minutes of google to figure this out:
The thing you see on CR (or whereever else you would find episodes from CR) labeled as ep1 is arc 1, so ep1+2.
CR ep 2 thus is arc 2 or ep3+4 packed into just one.
I'm going to assume they'll call arc3, which is supposed to be episodes 5+6+7 a 1hour long ep3 as well.


I dunno. There's 4 hours, if the information in the tweets is right. Suggests 2 hours on the 12th, then 2 hours on the 13th. I think. I thought maybe it was just two one hour shows, but they wouldn't have put them both on CR and have one show out here before it airs there, so I've revised my understanding (based on Bing translates of tweets, ugh) to be two shows the 12th, two shows the 13th, so... four hours?

And the first ep is great, although as usual the background visuals are gorgeous but hardly necessary for most of the episode. + Show Spoiler +
I really like the way they did some of it in the styles of the endings. And was Karen always not wearing pants in those scenes?

Yeah I liked seeing them use that artstyle inside an actual episode as well.

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 01:05 Slaughter wrote:
Is Owari S2 only going to have 3 episodes?

Edit: The Ougi Dark OP is indeed good.

yes and no. They made it the same way like with Tsukimonogatari. Remember how that was 4 episodes but on CR / Horriblesubs it ended up as one giant episode pasted together with OP's and EDs cut inbetween? It's a bit like that

Owari s2 ep1 is 20 minutes long, just as any other episode. Episode 1 + 2 together make for the first arc so they combined THAT into one episode on Crunchyroll. So if you watched Crunchyroll episode 1 you watched episode 1+2.
If you watched Crunchyroll episode 2 you watched episode 3+4 because that's the next arc they combined into just one video.
If you watched Crunchyroll episode 3 you watched episode 5+6+7 because that's the last arc they combined into just one video.
So yes, if you watched the 3 CR "episodes" that's it. Which is probably what you mean with that question, right?


No I was more asking if there is more to come for Owari S2 then the 3 "episodes" that were put out on CR.
Never Knows Best.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 15 2017 02:49 GMT
#122091
On August 15 2017 10:35 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2017 04:42 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 13 2017 20:23 felisconcolori wrote:
On August 13 2017 13:07 Toadesstern wrote:
I just want to rewatch first episode of Owarimonogatari s2 so badly ... it looked so good... but there's more to watch. What to do.

nvm, looping the OP for the next couple hours

//edit, I really shouldn't try typing at 6am in the morning, but a bit of an infodump because it took me 5-10minutes of google to figure this out:
The thing you see on CR (or whereever else you would find episodes from CR) labeled as ep1 is arc 1, so ep1+2.
CR ep 2 thus is arc 2 or ep3+4 packed into just one.
I'm going to assume they'll call arc3, which is supposed to be episodes 5+6+7 a 1hour long ep3 as well.


I dunno. There's 4 hours, if the information in the tweets is right. Suggests 2 hours on the 12th, then 2 hours on the 13th. I think. I thought maybe it was just two one hour shows, but they wouldn't have put them both on CR and have one show out here before it airs there, so I've revised my understanding (based on Bing translates of tweets, ugh) to be two shows the 12th, two shows the 13th, so... four hours?

And the first ep is great, although as usual the background visuals are gorgeous but hardly necessary for most of the episode. + Show Spoiler +
I really like the way they did some of it in the styles of the endings. And was Karen always not wearing pants in those scenes?

Yeah I liked seeing them use that artstyle inside an actual episode as well.

On August 14 2017 01:05 Slaughter wrote:
Is Owari S2 only going to have 3 episodes?

Edit: The Ougi Dark OP is indeed good.

yes and no. They made it the same way like with Tsukimonogatari. Remember how that was 4 episodes but on CR / Horriblesubs it ended up as one giant episode pasted together with OP's and EDs cut inbetween? It's a bit like that

Owari s2 ep1 is 20 minutes long, just as any other episode. Episode 1 + 2 together make for the first arc so they combined THAT into one episode on Crunchyroll. So if you watched Crunchyroll episode 1 you watched episode 1+2.
If you watched Crunchyroll episode 2 you watched episode 3+4 because that's the next arc they combined into just one video.
If you watched Crunchyroll episode 3 you watched episode 5+6+7 because that's the last arc they combined into just one video.
So yes, if you watched the 3 CR "episodes" that's it. Which is probably what you mean with that question, right?


No I was more asking if there is more to come for Owari S2 then the 3 "episodes" that were put out on CR.

no that was it
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
August 15 2017 05:42 GMT
#122092
Should I give Owari a second chance? The show didnt real wow me. It was super gruesome though. The best part of the show was the super super smug girl.

On August 13 2017 05:22 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Gamers is good. Love the confusion. Wish I could figure out what the plot is, but I'm not going to stop. MiA is Aots toad. You know this.

Is it? I watched the first episode, and the MC being a super casual mobile game player upset me.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-15 06:17:22
August 15 2017 06:14 GMT
#122093
On August 15 2017 14:42 lestye wrote:
Should I give Owari a second chance? The show didnt real wow me. It was super gruesome though. The best part of the show was the super super smug girl.

Show nested quote +
On August 13 2017 05:22 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Gamers is good. Love the confusion. Wish I could figure out what the plot is, but I'm not going to stop. MiA is Aots toad. You know this.

Is it? I watched the first episode, and the MC being a super casual mobile game player upset me.


super smug girl? tsukihi?

[image loading]

Idk. If you watched everything from Bake up to Owari-2 you better damn watch the rest of it as well. You're committed at that point in time.
If you just tried watching the grand finale of a fairly long running series without knowing about the previous works in the line, either "no, you won't understand a thing" or "start from the beginning" (which would be Bakemonogatari just on the offchance that this actually happened twice in this thread now)
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
August 15 2017 06:31 GMT
#122094
Oh lmao. I'm a clown. I didnt realize Owari was part of the Monotagari series discussion, I thought you were talking about Owari No Seraph.

I've only watched Monotagari, I felt like I was totally out of the loop, I was told later the series relies on a bunch of Japanese language puns so I didn't think it was for me. I did like the ending of the first series though, got more closure from that than most series.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-15 07:05:59
August 15 2017 07:05 GMT
#122095
On August 15 2017 15:31 lestye wrote:
Oh lmao. I'm a clown. I didnt realize Owari was part of the Monotagari series discussion, I thought you were talking about Owari No Seraph.

I've only watched Monotagari, I felt like I was totally out of the loop, I was told later the series relies on a bunch of Japanese language puns so I didn't think it was for me. I did like the ending of the first series though, got more closure from that than most series.

Honestly I think you can still enjoy the show without understanding the japanese puns or at least I did. I don't think most of them are that important to understand the story. It is cool later after you learn some japanese/kanji because they do add to the show. The only story arc that I think would be confusing is Mayoi Snail.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 15 2017 07:12 GMT
#122096
On August 15 2017 15:31 lestye wrote:
Oh lmao. I'm a clown. I didnt realize Owari was part of the Monotagari series discussion, I thought you were talking about Owari No Seraph.

I've only watched Monotagari, I felt like I was totally out of the loop, I was told later the series relies on a bunch of Japanese language puns so I didn't think it was for me. I did like the ending of the first series though, got more closure from that than most series.

Aaah gotcha. That would make the answer easier though: no don't watch it
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1945 Posts
August 15 2017 13:38 GMT
#122097
+ Show Spoiler [kinda monogatari related] +

+ Show Spoiler [kinda....] +

Those houses so remind me of monogatari, where we met mayoi for the first time

https://gfycat.com/PerfectFrigidGalago


I don't believe you.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
August 15 2017 13:47 GMT
#122098
Owari S2 was really good.

I should rewatch the series, as I feel like I forgot a lot.
Never Knows Best.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 15 2017 13:57 GMT
#122099
I do that before every new addition. I may have a problem...
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-15 14:25:29
August 15 2017 14:02 GMT
#122100
Ougi Dark's OP was really good as well.

One thing I am wondering is

+ Show Spoiler +
Why does Shinobu call Koyomi master? Isn't he the minion? Is it because of whatever Meme did? Though she still acts that way even when they both revert back to their previous forms.Also why does she want to be a loli smh just stay in your glorious adult form.
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