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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
October 05 2016 04:32 GMT
#115561
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 05 2016 04:39 GMT
#115562
On October 05 2016 13:32 plasmidghost wrote:
I've given quite a few anime a 1 but I want to rewatch one of them to see if I like it any better this time around. Should I rewatch Anohana, Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso, the original Evangelion or No Game No Life?

Your Lie in April is a pretty good show in my opinion. The characters can seem weak and the pacing isn't the best but the emotional payoff is pretty strong and the evolution of the characters is believable. It also helps that the music is insanely good and the animation quality is ratcheted up to match.

That said, if you hated it enough after watching the whole thing to give it a 1, perhaps you and I have fundamentally different tastes. I can understand how the ending could leave a bad taste in your mouth, and I can also understand that maybe you don't sympathize with the main character at all.

I also liked Evangelion but it's been a long time since I've watched it the whole way through so I don't really have much to say in its defense. I haven't seen the other two, but I've heard Anohana is similar in tone to Your Lie in April so maybe you just strongly dislike sad stories? I dunno.
Writer@WriterYamato
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 05 2016 04:46 GMT
#115563
On October 05 2016 13:25 yamato77 wrote:
I'm rather intrigued by Occultic;Nine. I never finished Steins;Gate but I did watch YLIA and I have faith that this show could be pretty decent as a result.

Somewhat related, is Euphonium appealing beyond the moe aspect?

I think I'm the only guy in here who doesn't like it. In that sense can't really talk about it since dropped around ep5 but I'd assume it's more than just moe considering how everyone and their dog was gushing about how amazing it is
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 04:50:34
October 05 2016 04:49 GMT
#115564
On October 05 2016 13:25 yamato77 wrote:.
Somewhat related, is Euphonium appealing beyond the yuri aspect?


ftfy
and no. The story is pretty bleh but the animation is really good at least.

obligatory
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
October 05 2016 04:54 GMT
#115565
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 05:05:50
October 05 2016 05:01 GMT
#115566
On October 05 2016 13:32 plasmidghost wrote:
I've given quite a few anime a 1 but I want to rewatch one of them to see if I like it any better this time around. Should I rewatch Anohana, Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso, the original Evangelion or No Game No Life?


On October 05 2016 13:54 plasmidghost wrote:
I only watched and like Eupho because I was in band and I miss those times, the show itself is okay, definitely a lot worse shows out there


Yeaaaaa I get why people might be turned off by the shows in the 1st quote but to give them 1s then say you like Eupho? I don't get that lol. Seems like you have lot looser criteria for giving something a 1 then I do, as I give out very few 1s and 10s.

If you want to rewatch the above you can watch Eva to see the anime that had a lot of influence (I like the reboot movies, maybe you could try those? Tho who knows if we will ever get the 4th one). Shigatsu for some nicely set up animation and music, Anohana I guess for a couple of nice emotional scenes, and NGNL for some entertainment and girls.
Never Knows Best.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 05:10:01
October 05 2016 05:06 GMT
#115567
On October 05 2016 13:25 yamato77 wrote:
I'm rather intrigued by Occultic;Nine. I never finished Steins;Gate but I did watch YLIA and I have faith that this show could be pretty decent as a result.

It's funny you say that, because I just look at Robotics;Notes and my faith plummets.

Somewhat related, is Euphonium appealing beyond the moe aspect?

Depends on what you mean by that. I thought the show was entertaining despite the drama and romance both being pretty bad. It's also certainly no K-ON.

On October 05 2016 13:32 plasmidghost wrote:
I've given quite a few anime a 1 but I want to rewatch one of them to see if I like it any better this time around. Should I rewatch Anohana, Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso, the original Evangelion or No Game No Life?

If you disliked it enough to give it a 1, you're not gonna fare much better the second time around.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 05:11:08
October 05 2016 05:07 GMT
#115568
I recently rewatched NGNL.

Good times. I wasn't really a fan of the chess game the first time it happened and liked the other things more but for some reason I just burst out into laughter when rewatching that during the scene when Sora takes over with the speech and all. I really lost it and rewatched that scene at least 3 times. I don't really know why

not that I'd recommend anyone to rewatch it who scored it a 1 though
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 05:32:38
October 05 2016 05:32 GMT
#115569
On October 05 2016 13:49 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 13:25 yamato77 wrote:.
Somewhat related, is Euphonium appealing beyond the yuri aspect?


ftfy
and no. The story is pretty bleh but the animation is really good at least.

obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SytMT62GFLs

That video is golden. If I can expect more of that, sign me up!

On October 05 2016 14:06 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 13:25 yamato77 wrote:
I'm rather intrigued by Occultic;Nine. I never finished Steins;Gate but I did watch YLIA and I have faith that this show could be pretty decent as a result.

It's funny you say that, because I just look at Robotics;Notes and my faith plummets.


I haven't seen Robotics but I can tell from MAL reviews that it seems like a mess. I should also get around to finishing Steins;Gate some time but every time I start from the beginning and lose interest before people claim it ramps up.

Show nested quote +
Somewhat related, is Euphonium appealing beyond the moe aspect?

Depends on what you mean by that. I thought the show was entertaining despite the drama and romance both being pretty bad. It's also certainly no K-ON.


I'm pretty new to the drama genre so I'm not familiar with K-ON. What about Euphonium do you find appealing? From the video, I would think that the character interaction drives the show. Kinda reminds me of what appealed to me about Bakemonogatari.
Writer@WriterYamato
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 05:37:49
October 05 2016 05:35 GMT
#115570
On October 05 2016 14:32 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 13:49 IceHism wrote:
On October 05 2016 13:25 yamato77 wrote:.
Somewhat related, is Euphonium appealing beyond the yuri aspect?


ftfy
and no. The story is pretty bleh but the animation is really good at least.

obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SytMT62GFLs

That video is golden. If I can expect more of that, sign me up!

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 14:06 Spazer wrote:
On October 05 2016 13:25 yamato77 wrote:
I'm rather intrigued by Occultic;Nine. I never finished Steins;Gate but I did watch YLIA and I have faith that this show could be pretty decent as a result.

It's funny you say that, because I just look at Robotics;Notes and my faith plummets.


I haven't seen Robotics but I can tell from MAL reviews that it seems like a mess. I should also get around to finishing Steins;Gate some time but every time I start from the beginning and lose interest before people claim it ramps up.

Show nested quote +
Somewhat related, is Euphonium appealing beyond the moe aspect?

Depends on what you mean by that. I thought the show was entertaining despite the drama and romance both being pretty bad. It's also certainly no K-ON.


I'm pretty new to the drama genre so I'm not familiar with K-ON. What about Euphonium do you find appealing? From the video, I would think that the character interaction drives the show. Kinda reminds me of what appealed to me about Bakemonogatari.


If you go in expecting more of that, then you will be disappointed. That was the best scene in the series along with the umaku naritai scene. You'll likely find yourself bored most of the time tbh.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
October 05 2016 05:38 GMT
#115571
RIP. Well, at least I didn't watch the whole season just for that short enjoyable 7 minute clip, haha.
Writer@WriterYamato
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
October 05 2016 05:39 GMT
#115572
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
October 05 2016 07:14 GMT
#115573
On October 05 2016 14:32 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 13:49 IceHism wrote:
On October 05 2016 13:25 yamato77 wrote:.
Somewhat related, is Euphonium appealing beyond the yuri aspect?


ftfy
and no. The story is pretty bleh but the animation is really good at least.

obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SytMT62GFLs

That video is golden. If I can expect more of that, sign me up!

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 14:06 Spazer wrote:
On October 05 2016 13:25 yamato77 wrote:
I'm rather intrigued by Occultic;Nine. I never finished Steins;Gate but I did watch YLIA and I have faith that this show could be pretty decent as a result.

It's funny you say that, because I just look at Robotics;Notes and my faith plummets.


I haven't seen Robotics but I can tell from MAL reviews that it seems like a mess. I should also get around to finishing Steins;Gate some time but every time I start from the beginning and lose interest before people claim it ramps up.

Show nested quote +
Somewhat related, is Euphonium appealing beyond the moe aspect?

Depends on what you mean by that. I thought the show was entertaining despite the drama and romance both being pretty bad. It's also certainly no K-ON.


I'm pretty new to the drama genre so I'm not familiar with K-ON. What about Euphonium do you find appealing? From the video, I would think that the character interaction drives the show. Kinda reminds me of what appealed to me about Bakemonogatari.

K-ON is arguably the most (in)famous moe sol to date.

Generally speaking, I like Kyoani's direction and art/animation. The problem is that the vast majority of the works they adapt are utter shit. In short, I liked Eupho because the writing wasn't bad for me to hate it. The bar is pretty low here.

Frankly, I can't think of anything impressive Kyoani has done writing-wise since TSR or Disappearance.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 07:50:22
October 05 2016 07:39 GMT
#115574
On October 05 2016 07:05 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 03:40 Numy wrote:
Toad gets me. You lived with these characters for so long, witnessed their grieve and love for each other. Then finally they acknowledge it's alright to love even if it'll be just a fleeting moment. Yet after all this there's no final physical bonding. It doesn't have to be explicit, how male genitals interact with female. It can just be something that "fades to black" even.

Just feels disappointing this is never even mentioned. That's one part I loved about Owari. When she finally accepts who she is, both aspects, there's that sweet moment between them physically and emotionally. It completes the whole relationship.

At the end of the day romantic relationship has a physical component. If that's never present what is the difference between romantic relationship and a close friendship?


What are you referring to here?

I guess we are different. Vol 17 of S&W has plenty enough for me.+ Show Spoiler +
Has multiple pics of them kissing and has stuff like them flirting together while in the bath together and Holo literally throwing a banquet to show off being pregnant to her "rivals". Was glorious. Not to mention the pics of Holo in a wedding dress.

I was talking about 16, oops. Epilogue has that but it's an epilogue! Not even full holo book. Epilogue should be a send off not take the conclusion.

Shouldn't have to wait until post the conclusion of the series to finally get the physical aspect of the relationship. That ending moment just arg, so sweet but why didn't just kiss right then. All the build up then bam nothing. Maybe it's fine and I'm just frustrated at the massive blue balls.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
October 05 2016 08:18 GMT
#115575
https://mimidoshima.wordpress.com/2016/10/02/que-desastre-de-dia/

Fune wa amu. I hardly knew ya and you haven't even aired yet but dropped.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 08:21:40
October 05 2016 08:19 GMT
#115576
On October 05 2016 13:39 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2016 13:32 plasmidghost wrote:
I've given quite a few anime a 1 but I want to rewatch one of them to see if I like it any better this time around. Should I rewatch Anohana, Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso, the original Evangelion or No Game No Life?

Your Lie in April is a pretty good show in my opinion. The characters can seem weak and the pacing isn't the best but the emotional payoff is pretty strong and the evolution of the characters is believable. It also helps that the music is insanely good and the animation quality is ratcheted up to match.

That said, if you hated it enough after watching the whole thing to give it a 1, perhaps you and I have fundamentally different tastes. I can understand how the ending could leave a bad taste in your mouth, and I can also understand that maybe you don't sympathize with the main character at all.

I also liked Evangelion but it's been a long time since I've watched it the whole way through so I don't really have much to say in its defense. I haven't seen the other two, but I've heard Anohana is similar in tone to Your Lie in April so maybe you just strongly dislike sad stories? I dunno.


The hate for Shigatsu has probably nothing to do with dislike for sad stories. For me, Shigatsu wasn't even sad since I couldn't connect with the characters at all. It just screamed "hey, I'm a sad story, please cry!" and I was like nope, don't feel like it. Shigatsu's problem was it's miserable writing in the character department and their ridiculous interaction as well as the missplaced comic relief. It's not a 1/10 though. The production quality is way too high and when they are playing music it's pretty good, so...

On October 05 2016 14:07 Toadesstern wrote:
I recently rewatched NGNL.

Good times. I wasn't really a fan of the chess game the first time it happened and liked the other things more but for some reason I just burst out into laughter when rewatching that during the scene when Sora takes over with the speech and all. I really lost it and rewatched that scene at least 3 times. I don't really know why

not that I'd recommend anyone to rewatch it who scored it a 1 though


You mean where he + Show Spoiler +
shows his affection for his little sister and pulls some new rules for the game out of his ass to win the game? :D


On October 05 2016 17:18 IceHism wrote:
https://mimidoshima.wordpress.com/2016/10/02/que-desastre-de-dia/

Fune wa amu. I hardly knew ya and you haven't even aired yet but dropped.


That's a lot of text. Can you provide a TL;DR?
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 08:33:47
October 05 2016 08:33 GMT
#115577
I probably will never give an anime a 1 or 2. If it's that bad I most likely dropped it before finishing
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Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
October 05 2016 12:55 GMT
#115578
I've been wondering, do you guys get super emotional/cry often when watching anime or manga ? I'm not moved easily so i've only cried like 5 times after ~100 days worth of A/M/LN/VN (One piece, Hunter x Hunter 2011, Koe no Katachi Oneshot, Eve no Jikan and Muv Luv Alternative) but some people apparently cried that many times in a single show. Maybe I'm just dead inside or something.
Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
October 05 2016 13:08 GMT
#115579
Often? No, but it happens.

Gunbuster and Diebuster both did it with their respective endings, for example.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-05 13:22:56
October 05 2016 13:21 GMT
#115580
On October 05 2016 21:55 Lackbleeder wrote:
I've been wondering, do you guys get super emotional/cry often when watching anime or manga ? I'm not moved easily so i've only cried like 5 times after ~100 days worth of A/M/LN/VN (One piece, Hunter x Hunter 2011, Koe no Katachi Oneshot, Eve no Jikan and Muv Luv Alternative) but some people apparently cried that many times in a single show. Maybe I'm just dead inside or something.

I cry at everything :<. Cry when Holo says she loves him. Cry when Senjou lays it bare for araragi. Cry when Elend and Vin get married. Cry like once per Malazan book.

Worst I think anime has hit me is still prob either Shinsekai when the red haired kid appeared or LoGH after Yang scene. I felt physically ill after that scene. Nowadays I just stay away from sad stuff...

Just open that cold heart!
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