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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-08 12:53:22
September 08 2016 12:51 GMT
#114901
also, there are trolls on everywhere on the web. I once saw "if you liked Evangelion, you'll like School Days" pop up for me in MAL

waitwait, are you a monogatari Hater or Lover? Important question considering the thread we're in. I don't even know if Miragee ever watched that. Never saw him talking about it
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany534 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-08 13:03:26
September 08 2016 13:02 GMT
#114902
On September 08 2016 21:51 Toadesstern wrote:
waitwait, are you a monogatari Hater or Lover? Important question considering the thread we're in. I don't even know if Miragee ever watched that. Never saw him talking about it

Lover, no doubt about that.
I actually bought the Kizumonogatari novel, which explained A LOT about the style of the show.

Miragee has Bakemonogatari rated at 5/10 for some reason, whereas I have rated it 9/10.
As I said, it's one of the rare cases where our ratings differ significantly.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
September 08 2016 13:10 GMT
#114903
On September 08 2016 21:48 Nezgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2016 21:20 Numy wrote:
See you made a fatal mistake here. Thinking MAL reviews/scores have any credibility.

People love to lie to themselves about why they enjoy shit. Can't just accept they love the random panty shots and cute girls doing random stuff. There always has to be some kind of "higher" merit to it all. Just ignore it. Forget about these people.

Find someone who has similar tastes and opinions as you as use that as a baseline for "watchablility" of a show.

To be fair, I generally only pay attention to reviews that give a low or lower than average rating. I don't care about fangirls gushing on how amazing something is and seeing incredible things where none exist.
Negative reviews, however, usually point out the flaws in the show - and every show has flaws. Looking at those is a much better indicator of whether the show is watchable or not.
The 3/10 review for New Game! on MAL is way more useful, for example. It clearly establishes that the show is "cute girls doing cute things" and some light comedy without an overarching story that has any merit. While the review is too negative overall, it helps to spot the faults in the show and tells me what kind of mindset I need to have in order to find enjoyment in it.
Whether or not a show is watchable is largely influenced by how much I can tolerate the flaws.


That's how I go about it as well. I usually read a review with a high ranking and one with a low ranking. It noticed that negative reviews tend to fail on shows that don't feature a "right in your face" kind of storyline because often people who write those reviews didn't fully grasp what was going on and thus didn't enjoy it. But yeah, negative reviews are really helpful, not just for shows but also for buying gear etc.

On September 08 2016 21:51 Toadesstern wrote:
also, there are trolls on everywhere on the web. I once saw "if you liked Evangelion, you'll like School Days" pop up for me in MAL

waitwait, are you a monogatari Hater or Lover? Important question considering the thread we're in. I don't even know if Miragee ever watched that. Never saw him talking about it


Nezgar likes it, I don't. I watched Bakemonogatari and thought about everything that didn't feature Crab was incredibly boring because it was all casual, sub-intelligent dialouge about stuff I didn't care about. In the case of Crab, there was actually some witty dialouge which was well written. I think I was also annoyed at times when they kept repeating certain phrases that I thought were silly in the first place. Whelp, I can't remember it too clearly, I only know that I decided to not touch another Monogatari in the near future. Bear in mind that I probably didn't grasp a lot of the references or play on words so that might have decreased my enjoyment. Although even when I got them I didn't think they were funny, either.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 08 2016 13:38 GMT
#114904
On September 08 2016 21:51 Toadesstern wrote:
also, there are trolls on everywhere on the web. I once saw "if you liked Evangelion, you'll like School Days" pop up for me in MAL

waitwait, are you a monogatari Hater or Lover? Important question considering the thread we're in. I don't even know if Miragee ever watched that. Never saw him talking about it

Reminds me of the time I put down a recommendation for Lucky Star, recommending Berserk. The admins have gotten better at catching troll recommendations.

As for ANN Reviews, this is my favorite one:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/mazinger-z/sub.dvd-tv-series-vol-1/.76178

Not every day you have a reviewer say something like "Don't be fooled if you start enjoying it, this is an entertainment version of Stockholm Syndrome".
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
September 08 2016 14:04 GMT
#114905
+ One of the great classics of anime's Super Robot era.
− And yet it's still a terrible series
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-08 15:13:41
September 08 2016 15:09 GMT
#114906
On September 08 2016 22:10 Miragee wrote:
I watched Bakemonogatari and thought about everything that didn't feature Crab was incredibly boring

This man gets it. Suck it Neo.

These days I basically survive off the 30 seconds of crab Nisio gives us a season. Has to sustain me through a whole year. Idk how I'll manage in the future.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
September 08 2016 15:52 GMT
#114907
Owarimonogatari had more than 30 seconds!
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 08 2016 15:54 GMT
#114908
IMO you should get a better Waifu than some subpar grill from a Shaft anime
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 08 2016 16:03 GMT
#114909
As I said before ANN review can be divided into pre 2008 and post 2008.

If you look at most of reviews before 2008, you'd go "Yup, that make sense". After 2008: "Yup, that's why you shouldn't do drugs."
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-08 16:34:19
September 08 2016 16:31 GMT
#114910
On September 09 2016 00:52 Toadesstern wrote:
Owarimonogatari had more than 30 seconds!

That opening to the last episode where Araragi phones her was just breathtaking. I paused it straight after that scene finished and gushed at neo for like 20 minutes I think. May just sustain me until the end of the year.

The thing with Senjou is that the moments we see her later are basically what I want out of romance in anime. Dammit she's just so honest with herself. Wish I could be that honest with myself.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-08 16:42:14
September 08 2016 16:40 GMT
#114911
speaking of Monogatari, we had the "previews suck" topic just recently. Monogatari probably has some of the best previews out there for me. I can rewatch those a million times

it's also the only Karen fix I'm getting
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
September 08 2016 17:06 GMT
#114912
Crab is fine but I prefer Shinobu and Kanbaru.
Never Knows Best.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
September 08 2016 18:54 GMT
#114913
yo emnjay, won't be up long tonight, but I should get up pretty early tomorrow (my time) so we can watch then or half a day later if that fits you better
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
September 08 2016 20:17 GMT
#114914
BigFan seems to share most of my tastes here. (never compared our MAL though)
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
September 08 2016 20:19 GMT
#114915
On September 09 2016 05:17 XenOmega wrote:
BigFan seems to share most of my tastes here. (never compared our MAL though)


BigFan just likes everything but Monogatari.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 08 2016 20:39 GMT
#114916
and FMP
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-08 21:29:51
September 08 2016 21:29 GMT
#114917
Toad we watch Kono Bi tomorrow. I have work all day.

On September 09 2016 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:
yo emnjay, won't be up long tonight, but I should get up pretty early tomorrow (my time) so we can watch then or half a day later if that fits you better

gotcha
Skol
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-09 05:04:55
September 09 2016 05:02 GMT
#114918
On September 09 2016 05:19 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 05:17 XenOmega wrote:
BigFan seems to share most of my tastes here. (never compared our MAL though)


BigFan just likes everything but Monogatari.

the judgement on that is still out! He never dropped it!

[image loading]
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
September 09 2016 05:09 GMT
#114919
In the meantime... Funimation is shifting to dubs, Crunchyroll is taking the subs, with both working together somehow but separately. How did Funimation think this was a good idea?
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
September 09 2016 05:18 GMT
#114920
On September 09 2016 14:09 felisconcolori wrote:
In the meantime... Funimation is shifting to dubs, Crunchyroll is taking the subs, with both working together somehow but separately. How did Funimation think this was a good idea?

Good. I hated the Funimation site anyways, more subs on CR the better.
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