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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 26 2015 07:13 GMT
#101121
Yuru Yuri is love
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 26 2015 07:17 GMT
#101122
Some good points that you guys made. Will address when I wake up. In the meantime:
+ Show Spoiler +
I just remembered that Tomiko actually confirmed that the bones that they got were that of Maria and Mamoru. When I was watching that, I thought she was using it to cover for Saki and that she knew the truth even though she told Saki that she has three days before the board of education does everything in their power to retrieve them. Thinking back on it, she even said that they checked their DNA and did all kinds of tests so she pretty much confirmed that both Maria and Mamoru are dead. Damn, that just made me sadder for some reason

Wiki seems to confirm it, dunno their source:
Maria: It is revealed that she was pregnant with Mamoru's child and was held by the Robber Fly colony before she was murdered upon her child's birth.
Mamoru: After the second time skip, with Tomiko confirming it, Mamoru was killed by the Robber Fly Monster Rats and had a child with Maria that Squealer raised to be the Monster Rats' "Messiah".
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 26 2015 07:23 GMT
#101123
How can people not absolutely love shoujo ai/yuri? There is nothing more beautiful than pure, sweet, girl love between two or more girls.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 07:43:28
June 26 2015 07:25 GMT
#101124
not all of us are numy inspired

edit :

alright final episode of Danna ga Nani wo Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken 2
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

I assume that's Kaori and Sayoko (the child)

this is a quote
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 07:30:58
June 26 2015 07:30 GMT
#101125
On June 26 2015 15:19 BigFan wrote:
Finished Shinsekai. + Show Spoiler +
Really glad that at least Satoru stayed alive with Saki. Would've been sad otherwise. I really wish we got more information on Maria and Mamarou though. It's likely they got killed and their child was taken from them, but, I want to know how? Was it some ambush? We also never got some information about the false minoshiro and how Squealer managed to catch it! All important information that the anime didn't mention.

However, what I will say is this, I KNEW IT! lol. I had a feeling that the queerats were related to humans even since the foreign invaders from episode 4 were said to look similar to humans. It was interesting to hear that they oppressed the hunters and commoners that couldn't use PK by changing their genes so that they can still continue running their own society with attack inhibition and death feedback while making sure they have control over the other humans.

Pretty sad though. Despite being sad about Squealer handled the whole situation, I honestly can't blame him for it. It's like Kimimaru said, we have to consider the survival of the colony especially when you consider that current society can easily have a change in heart and wipe out a whole colony in the blink of an eye. Squealer was pretty much a genius when it came to organizing this war. Traps, surrounds, confusion, fear, even using a cantus user that has no death feedback to humans. It was also great to see Shun guide Saki and that they remember him. I'll probably write more in a blog to sum up all my posts and more later on but a bit for now.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm still not sure how people can wonder what happened to maria and mamarou.
You saw their bones. They DNA tested the bones and it matched maria and mamoru iirc. what do you think happened? They're dead. The queer rats took care of them and then killed them after maria gave birth, it was fairly obvious imoimo when you consider that both maria and mamoru thought they could trust queer rats..
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 07:38:57
June 26 2015 07:34 GMT
#101126
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 26 2015 16:30 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 15:19 BigFan wrote:
Finished Shinsekai. + Show Spoiler +
Really glad that at least Satoru stayed alive with Saki. Would've been sad otherwise. I really wish we got more information on Maria and Mamarou though. It's likely they got killed and their child was taken from them, but, I want to know how? Was it some ambush? We also never got some information about the false minoshiro and how Squealer managed to catch it! All important information that the anime didn't mention.

However, what I will say is this, I KNEW IT! lol. I had a feeling that the queerats were related to humans even since the foreign invaders from episode 4 were said to look similar to humans. It was interesting to hear that they oppressed the hunters and commoners that couldn't use PK by changing their genes so that they can still continue running their own society with attack inhibition and death feedback while making sure they have control over the other humans.

Pretty sad though. Despite being sad about Squealer handled the whole situation, I honestly can't blame him for it. It's like Kimimaru said, we have to consider the survival of the colony especially when you consider that current society can easily have a change in heart and wipe out a whole colony in the blink of an eye. Squealer was pretty much a genius when it came to organizing this war. Traps, surrounds, confusion, fear, even using a cantus user that has no death feedback to humans. It was also great to see Shun guide Saki and that they remember him. I'll probably write more in a blog to sum up all my posts and more later on but a bit for now.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm still not sure how people can wonder what happened to maria and mamarou.
You saw their bones. They DNA tested the bones and it matched maria and mamoru iirc. what do you think happened? They're dead. The queer rats took care of them and then killed them after maria gave birth, it was fairly obvious imoimo when you consider that both maria and mamoru thought they could trust queer rats..


yeah he hadnt got up to that episode yet, hence why i removed my comment about it. until it gets confirmed by the woman its still just speculation, but that is one of the deliciously hard hitting scenes when you understand that they were murdered


i like yaoi , ive barely ever seen any yuri tho. fwiw lesbian porn makes me ill. on the other hand i have never seen gay porn in my entire life.
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 26 2015 07:46 GMT
#101127
I like both yaoi and yuri, but yuri is much better to me
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 07:51:33
June 26 2015 07:50 GMT
#101128
On June 26 2015 16:25 goody153 wrote:
not all of us are numy inspired

edit :

alright final episode of Danna ga Nani wo Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken 2
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

I assume that's Kaori and Sayoko (the child)


+ Show Spoiler +
No, that's Kaori(The child).
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 26 2015 07:53 GMT
#101129
more harems np
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Imperfect1987
Profile Joined August 2010
United States558 Posts
June 26 2015 07:54 GMT
#101130
On June 26 2015 16:30 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 15:19 BigFan wrote:
Finished Shinsekai. + Show Spoiler +
Really glad that at least Satoru stayed alive with Saki. Would've been sad otherwise. I really wish we got more information on Maria and Mamarou though. It's likely they got killed and their child was taken from them, but, I want to know how? Was it some ambush? We also never got some information about the false minoshiro and how Squealer managed to catch it! All important information that the anime didn't mention.

However, what I will say is this, I KNEW IT! lol. I had a feeling that the queerats were related to humans even since the foreign invaders from episode 4 were said to look similar to humans. It was interesting to hear that they oppressed the hunters and commoners that couldn't use PK by changing their genes so that they can still continue running their own society with attack inhibition and death feedback while making sure they have control over the other humans.

Pretty sad though. Despite being sad about Squealer handled the whole situation, I honestly can't blame him for it. It's like Kimimaru said, we have to consider the survival of the colony especially when you consider that current society can easily have a change in heart and wipe out a whole colony in the blink of an eye. Squealer was pretty much a genius when it came to organizing this war. Traps, surrounds, confusion, fear, even using a cantus user that has no death feedback to humans. It was also great to see Shun guide Saki and that they remember him. I'll probably write more in a blog to sum up all my posts and more later on but a bit for now.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm still not sure how people can wonder what happened to maria and mamarou.
You saw their bones. They DNA tested the bones and it matched maria and mamoru iirc. what do you think happened? They're dead. The queer rats took care of them and then killed them after maria gave birth, it was fairly obvious imoimo when you consider that both maria and mamoru thought they could trust queer rats..


+ Show Spoiler +
I don't think too many people doubt they are dead. I think the big question is what the events were like that involved in their demise. What you suggested is likely the result but I think a lot of us wish they elaborated more on the two.
The keyboard is mightier than the pen.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8626 Posts
June 26 2015 07:54 GMT
#101131
On June 26 2015 16:23 plasmidghost wrote:
How can people not absolutely love shoujo ai/yuri? There is nothing more beautiful than pure, sweet, girl love between two or more girls.


Yuru Yuri however isn't that. It uses lesbian love and makes fun of it which is pretty annoying. I didn't like s1 at all and won't watch another one.

On June 26 2015 16:30 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 15:19 BigFan wrote:
Finished Shinsekai. + Show Spoiler +
Really glad that at least Satoru stayed alive with Saki. Would've been sad otherwise. I really wish we got more information on Maria and Mamarou though. It's likely they got killed and their child was taken from them, but, I want to know how? Was it some ambush? We also never got some information about the false minoshiro and how Squealer managed to catch it! All important information that the anime didn't mention.

However, what I will say is this, I KNEW IT! lol. I had a feeling that the queerats were related to humans even since the foreign invaders from episode 4 were said to look similar to humans. It was interesting to hear that they oppressed the hunters and commoners that couldn't use PK by changing their genes so that they can still continue running their own society with attack inhibition and death feedback while making sure they have control over the other humans.

Pretty sad though. Despite being sad about Squealer handled the whole situation, I honestly can't blame him for it. It's like Kimimaru said, we have to consider the survival of the colony especially when you consider that current society can easily have a change in heart and wipe out a whole colony in the blink of an eye. Squealer was pretty much a genius when it came to organizing this war. Traps, surrounds, confusion, fear, even using a cantus user that has no death feedback to humans. It was also great to see Shun guide Saki and that they remember him. I'll probably write more in a blog to sum up all my posts and more later on but a bit for now.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm still not sure how people can wonder what happened to maria and mamarou.
You saw their bones. They DNA tested the bones and it matched maria and mamoru iirc. what do you think happened? They're dead. The queer rats took care of them and then killed them after maria gave birth, it was fairly obvious imoimo when you consider that both maria and mamoru thought they could trust queer rats..


+ Show Spoiler +
It was partly what BigFan said, I thought that Tomiko was covering for Saki. The other thing is: DNA tests aren't king. They just confirmed human bones. Could have been human bones from a grave or something. And we also don't know how advanced their techniques are. DNA tests are pretty tricky and has a lot to do with comparing/aligning against known sequences. Sequencing itself is very costly by todays standards so I didn't expect them to do that at all, esepcially for such a small incident. If they did, their techniques must be way and heads above everything we can imagine today... They didn't specify it (and they don't have to imho) but you shouldn't be so fast with saying that you don't know how people can wonder: Peoples thoughts are first and foremost lead by what they know and in this case it's information from the real world.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
June 26 2015 07:56 GMT
#101132
On June 26 2015 16:50 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 16:25 goody153 wrote:
not all of us are numy inspired

edit :

alright final episode of Danna ga Nani wo Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken 2
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

I assume that's Kaori and Sayoko (the child)


+ Show Spoiler +
No, that's Kaori(The child).

+ Show Spoiler +

really ? well it does make sense since Kaori has a black hair before meeting her husband.



On June 26 2015 16:53 NeoIllusions wrote:
more harems np

especially polygamy ones
this is a quote
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50607 Posts
June 26 2015 07:58 GMT
#101133
uhhh yeah goody the polygamy kind of harems....totally
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 26 2015 07:59 GMT
#101134
On June 26 2015 16:54 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 16:23 plasmidghost wrote:
How can people not absolutely love shoujo ai/yuri? There is nothing more beautiful than pure, sweet, girl love between two or more girls.


Yuru Yuri however isn't that. It uses lesbian love and makes fun of it which is pretty annoying. I didn't like s1 at all and won't watch another one.

Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 16:30 Unleashing wrote:
On June 26 2015 15:19 BigFan wrote:
Finished Shinsekai. + Show Spoiler +
Really glad that at least Satoru stayed alive with Saki. Would've been sad otherwise. I really wish we got more information on Maria and Mamarou though. It's likely they got killed and their child was taken from them, but, I want to know how? Was it some ambush? We also never got some information about the false minoshiro and how Squealer managed to catch it! All important information that the anime didn't mention.

However, what I will say is this, I KNEW IT! lol. I had a feeling that the queerats were related to humans even since the foreign invaders from episode 4 were said to look similar to humans. It was interesting to hear that they oppressed the hunters and commoners that couldn't use PK by changing their genes so that they can still continue running their own society with attack inhibition and death feedback while making sure they have control over the other humans.

Pretty sad though. Despite being sad about Squealer handled the whole situation, I honestly can't blame him for it. It's like Kimimaru said, we have to consider the survival of the colony especially when you consider that current society can easily have a change in heart and wipe out a whole colony in the blink of an eye. Squealer was pretty much a genius when it came to organizing this war. Traps, surrounds, confusion, fear, even using a cantus user that has no death feedback to humans. It was also great to see Shun guide Saki and that they remember him. I'll probably write more in a blog to sum up all my posts and more later on but a bit for now.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm still not sure how people can wonder what happened to maria and mamarou.
You saw their bones. They DNA tested the bones and it matched maria and mamoru iirc. what do you think happened? They're dead. The queer rats took care of them and then killed them after maria gave birth, it was fairly obvious imoimo when you consider that both maria and mamoru thought they could trust queer rats..


+ Show Spoiler +
It was partly what BigFan said, I thought that Tomiko was covering for Saki. The other thing is: DNA tests aren't king. They just confirmed human bones. Could have been human bones from a grave or something. And we also don't know how advanced their techniques are. DNA tests are pretty tricky and has a lot to do with comparing/aligning against known sequences. Sequencing itself is very costly by todays standards so I didn't expect them to do that at all, esepcially for such a small incident. If they did, their techniques must be way and heads above everything we can imagine today... They didn't specify it (and they don't have to imho) but you shouldn't be so fast with saying that you don't know how people can wonder: Peoples thoughts are first and foremost lead by what they know and in this case it's information from the real world.

+ Show Spoiler +
You know that they have technology advanced enough to splice and mix DNA to the point where they could change human biology entirely but you have doubts if they can DNA test properly? The series clearly showed us technology far more advanced than our own.
The show gave you the answer, but if you intentionally tried to believe that the show was trying to trick you i don't know what to say.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
June 26 2015 08:10 GMT
#101135
On June 26 2015 15:41 Imperfect1987 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 15:19 BigFan wrote:
Finished Shinsekai. + Show Spoiler +
Really glad that at least Satoru stayed alive with Saki. Would've been sad otherwise. I really wish we got more information on Maria and Mamarou though. It's likely they got killed and their child was taken from them, but, I want to know how? Was it some ambush? We also never got some information about the false minoshiro and how Squealer managed to catch it! All important information that the anime didn't mention.

However, what I will say is this, I KNEW IT! lol. I had a feeling that the queerats were related to humans even since the foreign invaders from episode 4 were said to look similar to humans. It was interesting to hear that they oppressed the hunters and commoners that couldn't use PK by changing their genes so that they can still continue running their own society with attack inhibition and death feedback while making sure they have control over the other humans.

Pretty sad though. Despite being sad about Squealer handled the whole situation, I honestly can't blame him for it. It's like Kimimaru said, we have to consider the survival of the colony especially when you consider that current society can easily have a change in heart and wipe out a whole colony in the blink of an eye. Squealer was pretty much a genius when it came to organizing this war. Traps, surrounds, confusion, fear, even using a cantus user that has no death feedback to humans. It was also great to see Shun guide Saki and that they remember him. I'll probably write more in a blog to sum up all my posts and more later on but a bit for now.


+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, there are still a lot of questions that are left unanswered. I think the source material gives a bit more detail on what happened with Maria and Mamarou but didn't explicitly give much from what I hear. The treatment of the Queerats is rather reprehensible. Squealer's revelation really transformed him and I can't really blame him for what he did. The guy really was clever and reminded me of Hitler in some ways (though I don't think his vision of the world was quite as negative as Hitler's). In the end I think his arrogant and self-absorbed nature ultimately led to his failure in Tokyo. If he had taken more precautions he would have likely never lost in the end. I thought the town's punishment of him was way overboard, the guy did an awful thing but their punishment is also awful. Glad he was freed eventually. It seems like it took some time for Saki to truly forgive him even though she understood his plight. Many of the townspeople never forgave him; never even tried to understand his position. I feel like the town is a great example of the possible dangers of living in ignorance.


+ Show Spoiler +
The way they treated the queerats and Squealer's punishment make a lot of sense in the context of them not considered to be human. I mean they begin laughing uncontrollably in the trial when Squealer tries to reveal the truth. Considering that they had been threating the queerats like trash for centuries it would require a big political effort to change the culture to view them as anything near of equal beings.

Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8626 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 08:19:52
June 26 2015 08:16 GMT
#101136
On June 26 2015 16:59 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 16:54 Miragee wrote:
On June 26 2015 16:23 plasmidghost wrote:
How can people not absolutely love shoujo ai/yuri? There is nothing more beautiful than pure, sweet, girl love between two or more girls.


Yuru Yuri however isn't that. It uses lesbian love and makes fun of it which is pretty annoying. I didn't like s1 at all and won't watch another one.

On June 26 2015 16:30 Unleashing wrote:
On June 26 2015 15:19 BigFan wrote:
Finished Shinsekai. + Show Spoiler +
Really glad that at least Satoru stayed alive with Saki. Would've been sad otherwise. I really wish we got more information on Maria and Mamarou though. It's likely they got killed and their child was taken from them, but, I want to know how? Was it some ambush? We also never got some information about the false minoshiro and how Squealer managed to catch it! All important information that the anime didn't mention.

However, what I will say is this, I KNEW IT! lol. I had a feeling that the queerats were related to humans even since the foreign invaders from episode 4 were said to look similar to humans. It was interesting to hear that they oppressed the hunters and commoners that couldn't use PK by changing their genes so that they can still continue running their own society with attack inhibition and death feedback while making sure they have control over the other humans.

Pretty sad though. Despite being sad about Squealer handled the whole situation, I honestly can't blame him for it. It's like Kimimaru said, we have to consider the survival of the colony especially when you consider that current society can easily have a change in heart and wipe out a whole colony in the blink of an eye. Squealer was pretty much a genius when it came to organizing this war. Traps, surrounds, confusion, fear, even using a cantus user that has no death feedback to humans. It was also great to see Shun guide Saki and that they remember him. I'll probably write more in a blog to sum up all my posts and more later on but a bit for now.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm still not sure how people can wonder what happened to maria and mamarou.
You saw their bones. They DNA tested the bones and it matched maria and mamoru iirc. what do you think happened? They're dead. The queer rats took care of them and then killed them after maria gave birth, it was fairly obvious imoimo when you consider that both maria and mamoru thought they could trust queer rats..


+ Show Spoiler +
It was partly what BigFan said, I thought that Tomiko was covering for Saki. The other thing is: DNA tests aren't king. They just confirmed human bones. Could have been human bones from a grave or something. And we also don't know how advanced their techniques are. DNA tests are pretty tricky and has a lot to do with comparing/aligning against known sequences. Sequencing itself is very costly by todays standards so I didn't expect them to do that at all, esepcially for such a small incident. If they did, their techniques must be way and heads above everything we can imagine today... They didn't specify it (and they don't have to imho) but you shouldn't be so fast with saying that you don't know how people can wonder: Peoples thoughts are first and foremost lead by what they know and in this case it's information from the real world.

+ Show Spoiler +
You know that they have technology advanced enough to splice and mix DNA to the point where they could change human biology entirely but you have doubts if they can DNA test properly? The series clearly showed us technology far more advanced than our own.
The show gave you the answer, but if you intentionally tried to believe that the show was trying to trick you i don't know what to say.


+ Show Spoiler +
What? Firstly, changing the human biology by changing the DNA is completely different from making a DNA test and the most important parameter here is "time". They never told us how long it took them to create self-defense-barriers etc. But they had only so much time (because of the timeline in the series) to identify the bones they found. Only because humanity is able to change DNA like they want doesn't mean they can fully sequence an organism within a few days/weeks.
Secondly, I didn't say the show way intentionally trying to trick me. I was just saying that it wasn't made clear when considering our backround knowledge.


On June 26 2015 17:10 jampidampi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 15:41 Imperfect1987 wrote:
On June 26 2015 15:19 BigFan wrote:
Finished Shinsekai. + Show Spoiler +
Really glad that at least Satoru stayed alive with Saki. Would've been sad otherwise. I really wish we got more information on Maria and Mamarou though. It's likely they got killed and their child was taken from them, but, I want to know how? Was it some ambush? We also never got some information about the false minoshiro and how Squealer managed to catch it! All important information that the anime didn't mention.

However, what I will say is this, I KNEW IT! lol. I had a feeling that the queerats were related to humans even since the foreign invaders from episode 4 were said to look similar to humans. It was interesting to hear that they oppressed the hunters and commoners that couldn't use PK by changing their genes so that they can still continue running their own society with attack inhibition and death feedback while making sure they have control over the other humans.

Pretty sad though. Despite being sad about Squealer handled the whole situation, I honestly can't blame him for it. It's like Kimimaru said, we have to consider the survival of the colony especially when you consider that current society can easily have a change in heart and wipe out a whole colony in the blink of an eye. Squealer was pretty much a genius when it came to organizing this war. Traps, surrounds, confusion, fear, even using a cantus user that has no death feedback to humans. It was also great to see Shun guide Saki and that they remember him. I'll probably write more in a blog to sum up all my posts and more later on but a bit for now.


+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, there are still a lot of questions that are left unanswered. I think the source material gives a bit more detail on what happened with Maria and Mamarou but didn't explicitly give much from what I hear. The treatment of the Queerats is rather reprehensible. Squealer's revelation really transformed him and I can't really blame him for what he did. The guy really was clever and reminded me of Hitler in some ways (though I don't think his vision of the world was quite as negative as Hitler's). In the end I think his arrogant and self-absorbed nature ultimately led to his failure in Tokyo. If he had taken more precautions he would have likely never lost in the end. I thought the town's punishment of him was way overboard, the guy did an awful thing but their punishment is also awful. Glad he was freed eventually. It seems like it took some time for Saki to truly forgive him even though she understood his plight. Many of the townspeople never forgave him; never even tried to understand his position. I feel like the town is a great example of the possible dangers of living in ignorance.


+ Show Spoiler +
The way they treated the queerats and Squealer's punishment make a lot of sense in the context of them not considered to be human. I mean they begin laughing uncontrollably in the trial when Squealer tries to reveal the truth. Considering that they had been threating the queerats like trash for centuries it would require a big political effort to change the culture to view them as anything near of equal beings.



+ Show Spoiler +
Also shows that the human race is not different from other hunting species. Also shows that the human race is disgusting, considering their intelligence should tell us to act otherwise instead of strengthen the already existing behavior.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 08:20:52
June 26 2015 08:19 GMT
#101137
random poll
do you guys switch off the kettle at the wall (or even unplug it) when you dont use it?
neither the kettle nor the microwave have any sort of standby
but some of my housemates seem compelled to switch them off at the wall even after i point out that they use no electricity because they have no standby/light/etc

Poll: switch at wall/unplug?

yes (4)
 
67%

no thats retarded (2)
 
33%

6 total votes

Your vote: switch at wall/unplug?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no thats retarded


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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8626 Posts
June 26 2015 08:24 GMT
#101138
On June 26 2015 17:19 FFGenerations wrote:
random poll
do you guys switch off the kettle at the wall (or even unplug it) when you dont use it?
neither the kettle nor the microwave have any sort of standby
but some of my housemates seem compelled to switch them off at the wall even after i point out that they use no electricity because they have no standby/light/etc

Poll: switch at wall/unplug?

yes (4)
 
67%

no thats retarded (2)
 
33%

6 total votes

Your vote: switch at wall/unplug?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no thats retarded




They do use electricity, even when not in standby. It's not a lot but they do. Same with turned-off pc's. The PSU will still draw some electricity if not detached from electricity supply entirely.
Imperfect1987
Profile Joined August 2010
United States558 Posts
June 26 2015 08:41 GMT
#101139
On June 26 2015 17:10 jampidampi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 15:41 Imperfect1987 wrote:
On June 26 2015 15:19 BigFan wrote:
Finished Shinsekai. + Show Spoiler +
Really glad that at least Satoru stayed alive with Saki. Would've been sad otherwise. I really wish we got more information on Maria and Mamarou though. It's likely they got killed and their child was taken from them, but, I want to know how? Was it some ambush? We also never got some information about the false minoshiro and how Squealer managed to catch it! All important information that the anime didn't mention.

However, what I will say is this, I KNEW IT! lol. I had a feeling that the queerats were related to humans even since the foreign invaders from episode 4 were said to look similar to humans. It was interesting to hear that they oppressed the hunters and commoners that couldn't use PK by changing their genes so that they can still continue running their own society with attack inhibition and death feedback while making sure they have control over the other humans.

Pretty sad though. Despite being sad about Squealer handled the whole situation, I honestly can't blame him for it. It's like Kimimaru said, we have to consider the survival of the colony especially when you consider that current society can easily have a change in heart and wipe out a whole colony in the blink of an eye. Squealer was pretty much a genius when it came to organizing this war. Traps, surrounds, confusion, fear, even using a cantus user that has no death feedback to humans. It was also great to see Shun guide Saki and that they remember him. I'll probably write more in a blog to sum up all my posts and more later on but a bit for now.


+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, there are still a lot of questions that are left unanswered. I think the source material gives a bit more detail on what happened with Maria and Mamarou but didn't explicitly give much from what I hear. The treatment of the Queerats is rather reprehensible. Squealer's revelation really transformed him and I can't really blame him for what he did. The guy really was clever and reminded me of Hitler in some ways (though I don't think his vision of the world was quite as negative as Hitler's). In the end I think his arrogant and self-absorbed nature ultimately led to his failure in Tokyo. If he had taken more precautions he would have likely never lost in the end. I thought the town's punishment of him was way overboard, the guy did an awful thing but their punishment is also awful. Glad he was freed eventually. It seems like it took some time for Saki to truly forgive him even though she understood his plight. Many of the townspeople never forgave him; never even tried to understand his position. I feel like the town is a great example of the possible dangers of living in ignorance.


+ Show Spoiler +
The way they treated the queerats and Squealer's punishment make a lot of sense in the context of them not considered to be human. I mean they begin laughing uncontrollably in the trial when Squealer tries to reveal the truth. Considering that they had been threating the queerats like trash for centuries it would require a big political effort to change the culture to view them as anything near of equal beings.



+ Show Spoiler +
I think the fact they consider Squealer sub-human makes the punishment all the more inappropriate. If something is considered below human, putting a concerted effort in torturing and sustaining it suggests it has power over you. Most of the townspeople obviously learned nothing from the events which is quite sad but understandable. The ignorant will not care for the truth even if it lies right before them. Instead of trying to understand what Squealer did they just had the idea "what he did is unforgivable so let's give him a punishment that's unforgettable." Their punishment was so extreme I can't imagine anyone making a strong case to justify endless torment of a creature regardless of their misdeeds.
The keyboard is mightier than the pen.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
June 26 2015 09:07 GMT
#101140
On June 26 2015 17:24 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 17:19 FFGenerations wrote:
random poll
do you guys switch off the kettle at the wall (or even unplug it) when you dont use it?
neither the kettle nor the microwave have any sort of standby
but some of my housemates seem compelled to switch them off at the wall even after i point out that they use no electricity because they have no standby/light/etc

Poll: switch at wall/unplug?

yes (4)
 
67%

no thats retarded (2)
 
33%

6 total votes

Your vote: switch at wall/unplug?

(Vote): yes
(Vote): no thats retarded




They do use electricity, even when not in standby. It's not a lot but they do. Same with turned-off pc's. The PSU will still draw some electricity if not detached from electricity supply entirely.


im trying to google for some stat but nothing really comes up. like we are talking £15/yr for leaving something on standby , how does that compare to leaving something not on standby? £5/yr? £0.05/yr?

and thats just cost. what are the dangers of leaving a kettle switched on? it looks like the danger is only there if you have frayed/damaged wire which will set fire to something randomly at any point whilst left on
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