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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
May 15 2015 19:06 GMT
#98421
Danmachi was good. I like how they just switch on the harem button after getting the "serious" stuff out of the way.
Skol
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 19:11:00
May 15 2015 19:08 GMT
#98422
lol + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


i have found my purpose in life
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 15 2015 20:00 GMT
#98423
On May 15 2015 22:10 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 13:27 WolfintheSheep wrote:Really, you thought Xam'd's World Building was better than Eureka 7's?

I mean, E7 got really weird and pseudo-sciency, but at least everything stayed consistent with the setting they made. And even ignoring all the kooky stuff, it was really just a coming-of-age story for Renton and a love story (multiple, actually) alongside the messy character dynamics of people, friends and family in a war.

Xam'd just...barely made sense, and most of it is only explained during or after the fact.
? I think Xam'd makes pretty good sense. I mean, in every fantasy story or even science fiction story there are usually general inconsistencies and plot holes that the audience excuses largely due to suspending reasonable amounts of disbelief. Xam'd has a bit more of that mysticism than other shows but it still pulls off a better world than E7 and in a shorter amount of time as well, because I think it's much more fascinating and has a rich vibrant history. I can' t remember any relevant details from E7 other than....okay I know there was a monk somewhere.

And the coming of age story for Renton was boring and cheesy. The love story between him and Eureka was pretty bad, and the only couple worth talking about really was Anemone and Dominic. Xam'd has the "better" characters that, despite being a bit more stoic than their bombastic E7 counterparts, bring a particular realism to them that doesn't make them fucking annoying.

Except for Haru. That girl was annoying as shit.

My impressions were like the exact opposite. I mean, Eureka Seven's main story was mumbo jumbo about scub coral, limit of questions, alien lifeforms, but at least it was consistent mumbo jumbo.

All I remember from Xam'd is that people become Xam'd for...reasons. There was an Emperor at the end for...reasons, and he vanished when he got a name for...reasons. And then some weird epilogue where Akiyuki stops being a statue for no reason at all.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 20:47:13
May 15 2015 20:29 GMT
#98424
On May 16 2015 02:40 FFGenerations wrote:
can someone fucking clarify what the fuck is being released, is it the ORIGINAL dorky artstyle or the NEW anime artstyle OR a MIX OF BOTH of them which is what this webpage leads me to believe since they have DORKY artstyle MIXED with anime artstyle

http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=132

is this just a steam re-release or did they actually change the art????

i can't believe they are releasing a game on steam with ZERO video footage or youtube footage

im guessing they did actually update ALL the art to the anime style , and that whatever idiot organised the steam page thought it'd be a great idea to update a fuckboat of dorky oldstyle art for no goddamn reason other than to confuse the living hell out of their customers http://store.steampowered.com/app/310360/

Holy shit, how can you get so mad about something when you did almost no research on it? Unless something has changed recently, the steam release will gice you the option to use the new, updated sprites, or the option to use the original.

But the steam release is still going to suck since they don't have the rights to the whole OST (at least last I checked they didn't), so you should just torrent it, and apply both the ps2 patch and audio patch it you don't want the original sprites.

edit: Oh, nm on that last part, they got the whole OST this time! Lets hope they do that for Kai too.

But seriously dude, you could have read the very pages you linked for your answers.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 20:48:15
May 15 2015 20:34 GMT
#98425
Hahahahaa I'm only half through the new episode of Shokugeki, it's so damn fun. So hype, so funny. Loling too much.

EDIT: Finished now. So entertaining, easily AOTS for me considering how much I enjoy it every week.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 20:51:09
May 15 2015 20:46 GMT
#98426
how am i supposed to "research" it, i go to their official steam sales page and official webpage and search youtube AND read the entire wikipedia page AND ask someone on facebook AND look on some hirugashi wiki, if i still can't figure out what the hell they're actually selling i'm not going to spend any more time "researching" than ask the anime people . that is like 20 minutes wasted of my time trying to figure out why they uploaded half of their images as images that aren't even from their game and are from freakin 14 years ago

thanks for explaining it tho
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 20:50:27
May 15 2015 20:49 GMT
#98427
On May 16 2015 05:46 FFGenerations wrote:
how am i supposed to "research" it, i go to their official steam sales page and official webpage and search youtube AND read the entire wikipedia page AND ask someone on facebook AND look on some hirugashi wiki, if i still can't figure out what the hell they're actually selling i'm not going to spend any more time "researching" than ask the anime people . that is like 20 minutes wasted of my time trying to figure out why they uploaded half of their images as images that aren't even from their game and are from freakin 14 years ago

Read the page you linked. This stuff is common knowledge you could find in 2 seconds on google.

Also, apparently you can't even read what I wrote????
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
May 15 2015 21:00 GMT
#98428
first of all when you have a DOUBLE HEADED arrow pointing both ways from the "original art" to "new art" and then you keep reading that the "original" hirugashi is the mangagamer version (instead of the alchemist version) AND that they released the game 2 years ago so you're wondering if this version is "just a steam (re)release" it gets a bit confusing. then when you go to the steam page you see THREE of their game preview pictures are in the old art style you are completely wondering which of the 2 art styles they are actually going for or if they are using a mix of them (which is as likely as anything at this point). at this point you go read the entire wikipedia, then look a hirugashi wiki which shows Alchemist vs Original art style and remember that the mangagamer version is the Original version not the PS2 version, then FINALLY you revisit the mangagamer website but are still not 100% sure so you post on a forum a little irritated at the whole process.
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 15 2015 21:13 GMT
#98429
Do you not know what double headed arrows mean? Like I said, the steam release gives you the options choose which style of sprites you want, and hell, apparently you can even choose between english and japanese. Its seriously not that hard, and it boggles my mind how it was confusing enough to make you rage like this.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 21:36:05
May 15 2015 21:30 GMT
#98430
double headed arrow means both ways. if it was ORIGINAL -> NEW then that makes sense. it means original has become new. if i said new <-> original you have no fucking idea what im talking about especially if my portfolio of new contains a boatload of original. i'm not stupid enough to blindly trust 100% that all the new in new portfolio are just part of the "new<->original" statement and the fact that the new product is also the original product rather than the "other" product confuses it further. the steam page contains no information whatsoever other than inflating the "new" portfolio with additional "original" images so what i'm i supposed to think then? new<->original or original<->new? it tells me nothing.

the fact that they include both character arts never occured to me, its a bit of a stretch to expect someone to think of that. i'm not a fucking manga game re-re-release expert, i expect a game to be just like what every other game is. if it includes multiple sets of art styles then it should say so and not leave it up to the imagination
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 21:37:05
May 15 2015 21:36 GMT
#98431
It has both art styles. You can toggle between them. The original art is not getting replaced. They put shots with the original art on their site because you can read the VN with the original art.

I don't know how much more simply I can spell this out for you. I don't know how much more simply the site can spell it out for you without being insulting.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 21:44:08
May 15 2015 21:43 GMT
#98432
On May 16 2015 05:00 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 22:10 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On May 13 2015 13:27 WolfintheSheep wrote:Really, you thought Xam'd's World Building was better than Eureka 7's?

I mean, E7 got really weird and pseudo-sciency, but at least everything stayed consistent with the setting they made. And even ignoring all the kooky stuff, it was really just a coming-of-age story for Renton and a love story (multiple, actually) alongside the messy character dynamics of people, friends and family in a war.

Xam'd just...barely made sense, and most of it is only explained during or after the fact.
? I think Xam'd makes pretty good sense. I mean, in every fantasy story or even science fiction story there are usually general inconsistencies and plot holes that the audience excuses largely due to suspending reasonable amounts of disbelief. Xam'd has a bit more of that mysticism than other shows but it still pulls off a better world than E7 and in a shorter amount of time as well, because I think it's much more fascinating and has a rich vibrant history. I can' t remember any relevant details from E7 other than....okay I know there was a monk somewhere.

And the coming of age story for Renton was boring and cheesy. The love story between him and Eureka was pretty bad, and the only couple worth talking about really was Anemone and Dominic. Xam'd has the "better" characters that, despite being a bit more stoic than their bombastic E7 counterparts, bring a particular realism to them that doesn't make them fucking annoying.

Except for Haru. That girl was annoying as shit.

My impressions were like the exact opposite. I mean, Eureka Seven's main story was mumbo jumbo about scub coral, limit of questions, alien lifeforms, but at least it was consistent mumbo jumbo.

All I remember from Xam'd is that people become Xam'd for...reasons. There was an Emperor at the end for...reasons, and he vanished when he got a name for...reasons. And then some weird epilogue where Akiyuki stops being a statue for no reason at all.
I mean...shit is still shit, even if it's consistent shit amirite?

Reasons were not particularly explained but that's part of the mysticism which I think is fascinating. Nakiama had some reasons but I don't remember them rip. Emperor was mentioned way before the end.

Akiyuki becoming a statue was sort of weird. I laughed.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 21:48:29
May 15 2015 21:47 GMT
#98433
the site doesn't spell it out, it has a stupid <-> . you can't expect anyone to be able to figure out that this game comes with 2 completely different artstyles based on that when you're told it has "updated" or "different" art. its WAY more likely that whoever designed the advertisement is just randomly using double arrows. if they wanted to articulate that it comes with two separate art styles they should have said so. what if it comes with two separate music tracks? how are they gonna convey this? they would explicitly explain it.... or they could have two photos of different-looking CDs with a double arrow?? its not reasonable for me to be able to figure this out
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 15 2015 21:51 GMT
#98434
If you say so. You seem to be in a tiny minority of people who weren't able to figure it out, though.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 15 2015 21:52 GMT
#98435
So much anger lol. This is even better than the CLG drama.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 15 2015 21:54 GMT
#98436
On May 16 2015 06:52 Numy wrote:
So much anger lol. This is even better than the CLG drama.

No it's not and you know it lol
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 15 2015 21:55 GMT
#98437
On May 16 2015 06:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 05:00 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 15 2015 22:10 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On May 13 2015 13:27 WolfintheSheep wrote:Really, you thought Xam'd's World Building was better than Eureka 7's?

I mean, E7 got really weird and pseudo-sciency, but at least everything stayed consistent with the setting they made. And even ignoring all the kooky stuff, it was really just a coming-of-age story for Renton and a love story (multiple, actually) alongside the messy character dynamics of people, friends and family in a war.

Xam'd just...barely made sense, and most of it is only explained during or after the fact.
? I think Xam'd makes pretty good sense. I mean, in every fantasy story or even science fiction story there are usually general inconsistencies and plot holes that the audience excuses largely due to suspending reasonable amounts of disbelief. Xam'd has a bit more of that mysticism than other shows but it still pulls off a better world than E7 and in a shorter amount of time as well, because I think it's much more fascinating and has a rich vibrant history. I can' t remember any relevant details from E7 other than....okay I know there was a monk somewhere.

And the coming of age story for Renton was boring and cheesy. The love story between him and Eureka was pretty bad, and the only couple worth talking about really was Anemone and Dominic. Xam'd has the "better" characters that, despite being a bit more stoic than their bombastic E7 counterparts, bring a particular realism to them that doesn't make them fucking annoying.

Except for Haru. That girl was annoying as shit.

My impressions were like the exact opposite. I mean, Eureka Seven's main story was mumbo jumbo about scub coral, limit of questions, alien lifeforms, but at least it was consistent mumbo jumbo.

All I remember from Xam'd is that people become Xam'd for...reasons. There was an Emperor at the end for...reasons, and he vanished when he got a name for...reasons. And then some weird epilogue where Akiyuki stops being a statue for no reason at all.
I mean...shit is still shit, even if it's consistent shit amirite?

Reasons were not particularly explained but that's part of the mysticism which I think is fascinating. Nakiama had some reasons but I don't remember them rip. Emperor was mentioned way before the end.

Akiyuki becoming a statue was sort of weird. I laughed.

I mean, Emperor was mentioned, but I don't even remember why he was there or why he was the big bad. He just kind of existed as an armchair super villain and then got beaten by a name.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 15 2015 21:55 GMT
#98438
Ye shame I thought I'd lift his spirits a little. Nothing beats NA LoL when it comes to angry drama.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 15 2015 21:57 GMT
#98439
On May 16 2015 06:55 Numy wrote:
Ye shame I thought I'd lift his spirits a little. Nothing beats NA LoL when it comes to angry drama.

We're getting back to back drama too, which is the best kind.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
May 15 2015 23:00 GMT
#98440
On May 16 2015 06:55 Numy wrote:
Ye shame I thought I'd lift his spirits a little. Nothing beats NA LoL when it comes to angry drama.


Obviously you weren't here when one of the coaches of edg faked his fake sister's suicide to get onto team WE.
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