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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-19 23:05:56
March 19 2015 23:02 GMT
#93701
+ Show Spoiler [Shigatsu final thoughts] +
I thought the final episode was well done. First half was just music which was really good. The letter in the second half was nice as well. We pretty much all knew Kaori would die and I'm fine with that to be honest. The ending could have been better with Kaori surviving but only if the story had been different. With the constant death flags and the way the story went, her death was the only way to not make a shit end.

Overall I think it was fine but that's it. While I still enjoyed it, it's not really a good show in my eyes. The music carried it pretty hard. Too much melodrama, bad pacing and unfitting/not funny comedy. It's sad to see people on MAL throwing 10/10s at a show with so many obvious flaws. #29, it's pathetic.


On March 20 2015 03:41 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [best shigatsu ending ever] +
[image loading]


That's really the best end, so good. xD

On March 20 2015 05:19 motbob wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Shigatsu] +
It wasn't really an ending in the way I usually think about it. The story has already been told. Does she live? Does she die? Of course she dies, it's literally the only ending possible.


+ Show Spoiler +
Agreed. It was more an episode to round up.


On March 20 2015 06:17 Vaelone wrote:
I know I'm late but I recently picked up Shinsekai Yori and was really enjoying it but then it turned into shounen ai all of sudden and now I'm confused and slightly embarrassed that I'm watching this.

I'm going to push through though as I assume this won't last too long.

Edit: Okay now there's yuri, all is right in the world again.


I planned on watching this right after I finish FMAB. Heared a lot of good things about it. Can someone explain the terms shoujo ai/shounen ai to me?
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-19 23:17:04
March 19 2015 23:15 GMT
#93702
roughly shoujo ai = yuri, shounen ai = male version of yuri (not quite bara)
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 19 2015 23:29 GMT
#93703
On March 20 2015 08:02 Miragee wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Shigatsu final thoughts] +
I thought the final episode was well done. First half was just music which was really good. The letter in the second half was nice as well. We pretty much all knew Kaori would die and I'm fine with that to be honest. The ending could have been better with Kaori surviving but only if the story had been different. With the constant death flags and the way the story went, her death was the only way to not make a shit end.

Overall I think it was fine but that's it. While I still enjoyed it, it's not really a good show in my eyes. The music carried it pretty hard. Too much melodrama, bad pacing and unfitting/not funny comedy. It's sad to see people on MAL throwing 10/10s at a show with so many obvious flaws. #29, it's pathetic.


Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 03:41 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [best shigatsu ending ever] +
[image loading]


That's really the best end, so good. xD

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 05:19 motbob wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Shigatsu] +
It wasn't really an ending in the way I usually think about it. The story has already been told. Does she live? Does she die? Of course she dies, it's literally the only ending possible.


+ Show Spoiler +
Agreed. It was more an episode to round up.


Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 06:17 Vaelone wrote:
I know I'm late but I recently picked up Shinsekai Yori and was really enjoying it but then it turned into shounen ai all of sudden and now I'm confused and slightly embarrassed that I'm watching this.

I'm going to push through though as I assume this won't last too long.

Edit: Okay now there's yuri, all is right in the world again.


I planned on watching this right after I finish FMAB. Heared a lot of good things about it. Can someone explain the terms shoujo ai/shounen ai to me?

LOL that alternate ending is great.
+ Show Spoiler [Shigatsu final Episode] +
Meh, not a big fan of the show... a lot of flashbacks everywhere, overreactions everywhere, obvious Kaori died since very early etc. But the music was good and at least they didn't mess up the ending unnecessarily. I'd give it a 7/10, mostly for the music.


On another note, I always forget that Tokyo Ghoul exists in this season, it helps a little. + Show Spoiler [Tokyo Ghoul] +
Though I must say the random showing of imba guys is getting old, I was kinda hoping for a slaughter of the humans and a sad ending. Now of course I wonder who that white haired human is. Cool fights again.
But on the other hand I shouldn't be surprised as we haven't seen many characters yet, though I would have thought that if the humans had such a badass we would know earlier.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
March 19 2015 23:34 GMT
#93704
On March 20 2015 08:15 ragz_gt wrote:
roughly shoujo ai = yuri, shounen ai = male version of yuri (not quite bara)


Alright, thank you!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 20 2015 00:44 GMT
#93705
the lack of talk about michiru is unreal

Kato >>> Utaha/Michiru > Eiriri > whatshernameagain-childhoodfriend
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
March 20 2015 00:45 GMT
#93706
glad that shigatsu didnt go full cop out ending.
tokyo ghoul is utter mess. went into episode hyped cos of the title but no fucking flowers.
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1953 Posts
March 20 2015 00:52 GMT
#93707
On March 20 2015 08:29 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 08:02 Miragee wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Shigatsu final thoughts] +
I thought the final episode was well done. First half was just music which was really good. The letter in the second half was nice as well. We pretty much all knew Kaori would die and I'm fine with that to be honest. The ending could have been better with Kaori surviving but only if the story had been different. With the constant death flags and the way the story went, her death was the only way to not make a shit end.

Overall I think it was fine but that's it. While I still enjoyed it, it's not really a good show in my eyes. The music carried it pretty hard. Too much melodrama, bad pacing and unfitting/not funny comedy. It's sad to see people on MAL throwing 10/10s at a show with so many obvious flaws. #29, it's pathetic.


On March 20 2015 03:41 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [best shigatsu ending ever] +
[image loading]


That's really the best end, so good. xD

On March 20 2015 05:19 motbob wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Shigatsu] +
It wasn't really an ending in the way I usually think about it. The story has already been told. Does she live? Does she die? Of course she dies, it's literally the only ending possible.


+ Show Spoiler +
Agreed. It was more an episode to round up.


On March 20 2015 06:17 Vaelone wrote:
I know I'm late but I recently picked up Shinsekai Yori and was really enjoying it but then it turned into shounen ai all of sudden and now I'm confused and slightly embarrassed that I'm watching this.

I'm going to push through though as I assume this won't last too long.

Edit: Okay now there's yuri, all is right in the world again.


I planned on watching this right after I finish FMAB. Heared a lot of good things about it. Can someone explain the terms shoujo ai/shounen ai to me?

LOL that alternate ending is great.
+ Show Spoiler [Shigatsu final Episode] +
Meh, not a big fan of the show... a lot of flashbacks everywhere, overreactions everywhere, obvious Kaori died since very early etc. But the music was good and at least they didn't mess up the ending unnecessarily. I'd give it a 7/10, mostly for the music.


On another note, I always forget that Tokyo Ghoul exists in this season, it helps a little. + Show Spoiler [Tokyo Ghoul] +
Though I must say the random showing of imba guys is getting old, I was kinda hoping for a slaughter of the humans and a sad ending. Now of course I wonder who that white haired human is. Cool fights again.
But on the other hand I shouldn't be surprised as we haven't seen many characters yet, though I would have thought that if the humans had such a badass we would know earlier.

Tokyo Ghoul, about the white hair guy + Show Spoiler +
I'm pretty sure the white haired guy is the guy who was with Mr. Mado and his wife when we saw a flashback of how she died. He had black hair back then though.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 20 2015 01:05 GMT
#93708
On March 20 2015 09:44 Toadesstern wrote:
the lack of talk about michiru is unreal

Kato >>> Utaha/Michiru > Eiriri > whatshernameagain-childhoodfriend

I really like Michiru's design but she suffers from "appearing way too late in series" syndrome. gg
While the condition doesn't always spell death, it usually detracts from the heroine's ability to get that top spot.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 20 2015 01:14 GMT
#93709
On March 20 2015 10:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 09:44 Toadesstern wrote:
the lack of talk about michiru is unreal

Kato >>> Utaha/Michiru > Eiriri > whatshernameagain-childhoodfriend

I really like Michiru's design but she suffers from "appearing way too late in series" syndrome. gg
While the condition doesn't always spell death, it usually detracts from the heroine's ability to get that top spot.

yeah she shoul have been in there sooner...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 20 2015 01:36 GMT
#93710
On March 20 2015 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 10:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 20 2015 09:44 Toadesstern wrote:
the lack of talk about michiru is unreal

Kato >>> Utaha/Michiru > Eiriri > whatshernameagain-childhoodfriend

I really like Michiru's design but she suffers from "appearing way too late in series" syndrome. gg
While the condition doesn't always spell death, it usually detracts from the heroine's ability to get that top spot.

yeah she shoul have been in there sooner...

It's even worse when there are strong heroines like Kato (and Utaha). People have made up their minds already long ago by the time Michiru appears. o/
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
March 20 2015 01:39 GMT
#93711
At least she is more relevant than tire girl
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
March 20 2015 01:43 GMT
#93712
On March 20 2015 06:17 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 04:49 Leyra wrote:
Shigatsu was overall a good show, I liked it a lot. Had some iffy moments and maybe some awkward pacing in some of the middle episodes, but I thought it was fun.

Some good feels, and the "so ridiculously "poetic" that it sounds cheesy, especially coming from 14 year olds" writing was endlessly entertaining for me.

Also, the irony in the Shirobako delay :D

Its on CR's end, not PA Works =/

So no irony here, no matter how funny that wouldve been.


My mistake :D
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 01:48:29
March 20 2015 01:48 GMT
#93713
On March 20 2015 10:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 20 2015 10:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 20 2015 09:44 Toadesstern wrote:
the lack of talk about michiru is unreal

Kato >>> Utaha/Michiru > Eiriri > whatshernameagain-childhoodfriend

I really like Michiru's design but she suffers from "appearing way too late in series" syndrome. gg
While the condition doesn't always spell death, it usually detracts from the heroine's ability to get that top spot.

yeah she shoul have been in there sooner...

It's even worse when there are strong heroines like Kato (and Utaha). People have made up their minds already long ago by the time Michiru appears. o/

well that's why you're supposed to start with episode 0. I always knew I'm going to like Michiru so I was massivle disappointed when the redhead appeared.

You did watch episode 0, right? That's totally your kind of episode.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 20 2015 02:28 GMT
#93714
I h8 u, Toad.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44134 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 02:59:59
March 20 2015 02:37 GMT
#93715
lol neo skipped ep0 (jumping to conclusions)

it's even the type of episode you would love wholeheartedly(watch it neo the fanservice is abundant )
this is a quote
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 20 2015 02:56 GMT
#93716
So now there is Michuru and Not-Michuru

and Michuru is at the bottom.
WriterXiao8~~
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44134 Posts
March 20 2015 03:06 GMT
#93717
Love so Life 86 what a glorious scene.
this is a quote
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
March 20 2015 03:08 GMT
#93718
On March 20 2015 12:06 goody153 wrote:
Love so Life 86 what a glorious scene.


no twins, bad chapter.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44134 Posts
March 20 2015 03:11 GMT
#93719
On March 20 2015 12:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 12:06 goody153 wrote:
Love so Life 86 what a glorious scene.


no twins, bad chapter.

yeah no family feels scene's this chapter

1 funny scene .. the rest is shit not impressive
this is a quote
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 20 2015 04:33 GMT
#93720
Starting to finish shows already :/
+ Show Spoiler [Shigatsu] +
Well, it didn't go down as I hoped it would. Wanted a happy ending with Kaori alive even if it meant that she'll die offscreen in the near future. However, all the death flags seemed to be saying that she will die so from that perspective, it make sense but the whole surgery part, the whole I'll do it even if it means a bit more time etc... oh well, in the end, they were both satisfied and she ended up being with Arima and helped lift him up which made her die in peace. Can't ask for better (iho).

+ Show Spoiler [Tokyo Ghoul] +
This one is odd. We did hear that he had a daughter but to take over her father and be the second owl. She's nowhere near the same refined level imo (based on past owl fight flashbacks). Also, they killed Amon but not Kaneki. Cmon, don't do this to us! I always liked Amon's character and figured that he'll survive from everyone else even when it looked like they were all going to die.

Other than that, didn't like the fact that this new CCG member just came out of nowhere (it feels like) and is going toe to toe (well, not really lol, he was winning) the second owl. Just feels a bit odd to me but still, nice to see the fights. Always entertaining and I wonder how Kaneki's friend managed to survive his meeting with those two top Aogiri members (maybe he's a ghoul then?)
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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