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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
February 06 2015 22:18 GMT
#91861
On February 07 2015 06:47 Numy wrote:
Well obviously. A yuri harem ending is always the best option in any given harem.

yandere harem clearly better
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 06 2015 22:30 GMT
#91862
I'll pose a question. Would tsukihi x Hitagi not be the ultimate end couple of Monogatari? Would tsumugi x Onodera not be infinitely better than Raku? Yuri endings are the way of the future. Sooner we embrace them the better life will be. Think of your children!
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 22:31:32
February 06 2015 22:31 GMT
#91863
Regardless of how bad a manga omamori himari was, it still had one of the best endings for a trashy harem manga

+ Show Spoiler +
literal orgy for the entire harem EXCEPT the irredeemable shitty tsundere childhood friend who was the only one left out of the orgy, the end
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 06 2015 22:36 GMT
#91864
On February 07 2015 07:30 Numy wrote:
I'll pose a question. Would tsukihi x Hitagi not be the ultimate end couple of Monogatari? Would tsumugi x Onodera not be infinitely better than Raku? Yuri endings are the way of the future. Sooner we embrace them the better life will be. Think of your children!

tsukihi x Hitagi does so not work. Hitagi + hanekawa maybe but even then, I'm not a fan of yuri in anime lol
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 06 2015 22:42 GMT
#91865
On February 07 2015 07:36 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 07:30 Numy wrote:
I'll pose a question. Would tsukihi x Hitagi not be the ultimate end couple of Monogatari? Would tsumugi x Onodera not be infinitely better than Raku? Yuri endings are the way of the future. Sooner we embrace them the better life will be. Think of your children!

tsukihi x Hitagi does so not work. Hitagi + hanekawa maybe but even then, I'm not a fan of yuri in anime lol


Please, Tsukihi would so work with Hitagi. Hitagi x Kanbaru real legit but it makes me too sad speaking about it. Don't know how you can dislike yuri, it's almost always better than hetero in anime since they have no fucking clue how to do relationships.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
February 06 2015 22:46 GMT
#91866
On February 07 2015 07:42 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 07:36 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 07 2015 07:30 Numy wrote:
I'll pose a question. Would tsukihi x Hitagi not be the ultimate end couple of Monogatari? Would tsumugi x Onodera not be infinitely better than Raku? Yuri endings are the way of the future. Sooner we embrace them the better life will be. Think of your children!

tsukihi x Hitagi does so not work. Hitagi + hanekawa maybe but even then, I'm not a fan of yuri in anime lol


Please, Tsukihi would so work with Hitagi. Hitagi x Kanbaru real legit but it makes me too sad speaking about it. Don't know how you can dislike yuri, it's almost always better than hetero in anime since they have no fucking clue how to do relationships.

i agree that yuri is amazing. but i think you need 2 characters specifically written to be in a yuri relationship. i don't think it works when you just arbitrarily stick two girls from a standard harem anime together
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 22:50:04
February 06 2015 22:49 GMT
#91867
On February 07 2015 07:42 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 07:36 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 07 2015 07:30 Numy wrote:
I'll pose a question. Would tsukihi x Hitagi not be the ultimate end couple of Monogatari? Would tsumugi x Onodera not be infinitely better than Raku? Yuri endings are the way of the future. Sooner we embrace them the better life will be. Think of your children!

tsukihi x Hitagi does so not work. Hitagi + hanekawa maybe but even then, I'm not a fan of yuri in anime lol


Please, Tsukihi would so work with Hitagi. Hitagi x Kanbaru real legit but it makes me too sad speaking about it. Don't know how you can dislike yuri, it's almost always better than hetero in anime since they have no fucking clue how to do relationships.

when I think yuri in anime I usually think about weird stuff with nothing but lolis, most likely recommended by elem.
Something like Hitagi x Hanekawa I wouldn't mind at all. Hitagi x Tsukihi neither but like I said, I don't think that'd work lol ... it's just not that I think about that when I think "yuri"
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 22:51:53
February 06 2015 22:51 GMT
#91868
On February 07 2015 07:42 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 07:36 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 07 2015 07:30 Numy wrote:
I'll pose a question. Would tsukihi x Hitagi not be the ultimate end couple of Monogatari? Would tsumugi x Onodera not be infinitely better than Raku? Yuri endings are the way of the future. Sooner we embrace them the better life will be. Think of your children!

tsukihi x Hitagi does so not work. Hitagi + hanekawa maybe but even then, I'm not a fan of yuri in anime lol


Please, Tsukihi would so work with Hitagi. Hitagi x Kanbaru real legit but it makes me too sad speaking about it. Don't know how you can dislike yuri, it's almost always better than hetero in anime since they have no fucking clue how to do relationships.

I have nothing against yuri but i also have no interest in it, same for yaoi.
Neither will make me drop an anime but i definitely would care a lot less about a lot of series if they were either yuri or yaoi instead of hetero.
S&W, Katanagatari and such series would've definitely been less interesting to me as yuri.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 22:57:06
February 06 2015 22:55 GMT
#91869
The issue I have with most hetero in anime is that they feel so unhetero. I don't know how to describe it. It's as if it's written from a child's view on relationships/love. Yuri/Yaoi is not something I'm involved with personally so the disconnect feels a lot less discomforting. They also tend to be far cuter.

edit: You are talking about actually well written pieces, I'm talking about the hordes of trashy romcoms and others like them. Most of these romcoms the male might as well be genderless so replacing this person with a cute female doesn't change any dynamic in the show.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 06 2015 22:57 GMT
#91870
implying monogatari is a trashy romcom? Don't make eca hear that
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 06 2015 22:59 GMT
#91871
Monogatari isn't really a harem show nor is it a romcom. That was just a joke question lol. Nisekoi one was legit though. Would be awesome :D
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 23:02:25
February 06 2015 23:00 GMT
#91872
Doesn't help that a lot of Yuri is just closet fan service or done even worse then the hetero relationships, See Sakura Trick.

Or a gay girl gets reduced to a creeper who has a crush on a straight girl (same thing happens with gay male characters).
Never Knows Best.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 06 2015 23:05 GMT
#91873
l0l Numy. You know I like you but there's no way Tsukihi x Hitagi would work.
There's like zero interaction between them depicted in like 2-3 years (in Monogatari time)
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 06 2015 23:05 GMT
#91874
On February 07 2015 08:00 Slaughter wrote:
Doesn't help that a lot of Yuri is just closet fan service or done even worse then the hetero relationships, See Sakura Trick.

Or a gay girl gets reduced to a creeper who has a crush on a straight girl (same thing happens with gay male characters).

Sakura Trick was one of the shows that I watched because of elem. Made it either up to either episode 1 or 2... sure it was cute and all but the yuri actually made it really creepy for me with them all looking like they're 10
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 06 2015 23:06 GMT
#91875
Yuri and Yaoi are basically just generic romances stripped of all the annoying trappings of anime cliches.

Like...normal series romance is either a) two characters dancing for eternity while the author teases a dozen other pairings, and then ends the series with zero closure, or b) two characters who become a couple right at the start and then one half gets ignored because he/she isn't plot important, leading to zero chemistry.

Non-het romance means the author can't outright state "these two are a couple", so they have to actually put effort into showing two characters doing coupley things, show that they actually (gasp) spend time together, all to hint and imply without being explicit about it.

tl;dr authors are lazy and censors stop them from taking the easy way out.

(Also why series that are explicitly Yuri or Yaoi are just as shitty)
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
February 06 2015 23:08 GMT
#91876
On February 07 2015 08:00 Slaughter wrote:
Doesn't help that a lot of Yuri is just closet fan service or done even worse then the hetero relationships, See Sakura Trick.

Or a gay girl gets reduced to a creeper who has a crush on a straight girl (same thing happens with gay male characters).

i don't generally find relationships as portrayed in anime to be even remotely well written. however yuri happens to be loads more fun to watch. just like ecchi harems are more fun than normal romance.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 23:14:12
February 06 2015 23:11 GMT
#91877
On February 07 2015 08:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
l0l Numy. You know I like you but there's no way Tsukihi x Hitagi would work.
There's like zero interaction between them depicted in like 2-3 years (in Monogatari time)


Don't you ever wonder why there's no interaction? Why Hitagi vanishes from the series? They'd be so awesome it would break the universe. I believe!

Anyway I'm sure we had this discussion once before. Romance in anime is awful. There's a few standout exceptions but the majority is just bad. I blame the viewers partly, stuff like Toradora gets praised for it's "romance" so it's pretty obvious the viewers are just as awful as the authors. I get having guilty pleasures but it seems like there're so few non-trashy romance manga/anime/novels out there that you can't even call them guilty pleasures anymore as it's the norm.

@Wolf - Holy shit I love how in anime everyone just loves each other without ever dating or spending time together. Then in the rare occasion they do become a couple they still hardly spend time or actively go out of their way to be with each other. I'm all for not trying to depict reality but at least SHOW us them being in love instead of just having character state it constantly without any merit to it.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 06 2015 23:14 GMT
#91878
You can say that about a lot of aspects of anime besides romance lol.
Never Knows Best.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 06 2015 23:15 GMT
#91879
On February 07 2015 08:11 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 08:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
l0l Numy. You know I like you but there's no way Tsukihi x Hitagi would work.
There's like zero interaction between them depicted in like 2-3 years (in Monogatari time)


Don't you ever wonder why there's no interaction? Why Hitagi vanishes from the series? They'd be so awesome it would break the universe. I believe!

Anyway I'm sure we had this discussion once before. Romance in anime is awful. There's a few standout exceptions but the majority is just bad. I blame the viewers partly, stuff like Toradora gets praised for it's "romance" so it's pretty obvious the viewers are just as awful as the authors. I get having guilty pleasures but it seems like there're so few non-trashy romance manga/anime/novels out there that you can't even call them guilty pleasures anymore as it's the norm.

@Wolf - Holy shit I love how in anime everyone just loves each other without ever dating or spending time together. Then in the rare occasion they do become a couple they still hardly spend time or actively go out of their way to be with each other. I'm all for not trying to depict reality but at least SHOW us them being in love instead of just having character state it constantly without any merit to it.

roflllll sup
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 06 2015 23:16 GMT
#91880
On February 07 2015 08:14 Slaughter wrote:
You can say that about a lot of aspects of anime besides romance lol.

Yeah, but waifus = merchandise, so all emphasis on waifus. That and Gundams.

Hence Nanoha being so big, because Gundam Waifus.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
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