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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

For currently airing anime, please see Anichart.net
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 00:48:17
December 28 2014 00:46 GMT
#89881
UBW subs from CR are delayed apparently for anyone waiting for CR and in turn horriblesubs.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 28 2014 01:02 GMT
#89882
On December 28 2014 09:46 Unleashing wrote:
UBW subs from CR are delayed apparently for anyone waiting for CR and in turn horriblesubs.

ah I see, fair enough, thanks! Just saw their message as well.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
December 28 2014 01:02 GMT
#89883
Going to be a longer finale as well for UBW.
Never Knows Best.
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 01:11:25
December 28 2014 01:04 GMT
#89884
On December 28 2014 09:41 Slaughter wrote:
Its because he was being explicit about it. Saying "i'd do her" is a lot different from describing the specific act you would perform on her. Also his statement implies a notion of lacking consent since he specified doing it to her while she was asleep.

Oh please, like this is relevant.

And "I'd do her" is for me just as bad except it isn't as expressive(which would be good thing in posts). Basically he got warned just because of regional semantics. Imo there should be clearcut no sexual posts and not this "you use word that in my hood is this and this and this is the way you are supposed to say fuck"
as useful as teasalt
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
December 28 2014 01:06 GMT
#89885
Just started Space Brothers, it was really cool to see my hometown of Houston, Texas represented in anime, especially Space Center Houston, where I went dozens of times as a kid.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 28 2014 01:14 GMT
#89886
On December 28 2014 10:02 Slaughter wrote:
Going to be a longer finale as well for UBW.

oh ya, right, I forgot about this. 40 minutes of hearing Shiroe whine, great! On that same topic, why is Shiroe so hated?
+ Show Spoiler +
Is it because he follows ideals that aren't his own? He doesn't seem to do much to achieve them? He doesn't realize that they are unreachable?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 28 2014 01:21 GMT
#89887
Its cause he a dense idiot too.
WriterXiao8~~
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 01:23:45
December 28 2014 01:23 GMT
#89888
Adding to the dense/dumb, there are some smaller things like how sexist he can occasionally be.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 28 2014 01:43 GMT
#89889
hmm but which dense parts are you talking about? Do you mean the whole part of him not understanding just how serious the situation is with the war? The same for the sexist. Mind giving an example? I'm sure I've seen it but nothing major rings bells for me atm.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 01:57:18
December 28 2014 01:48 GMT
#89890
A lot of his greatest hits in the sexism and stupidity are in the Fate route. Just pay attention to what Archer says to/about Shirou. Other than that I would be spoiling things.
Never Knows Best.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
December 28 2014 01:53 GMT
#89891
In all fairness, no dude ever wants to hear another dude say he wants to fuck or eat out another person.

1. It sounds terrible regardless of who says it (men clearly).
2. Who says it can make it worse.

Regardless of who is speaking odds are you're likely a gross ugly little dude on the internet, nobody wants to hear you say how badly you want to do sexual things with X person fictional or real. That's just common sense.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 01:56:33
December 28 2014 01:56 GMT
#89892
On December 28 2014 10:53 SK.Testie wrote:
In all fairness, no dude ever wants to hear another dude say he wants to fuck or eat out another person..



It shocks me how many dudes don't understand this. I never wanna hear about how a guy wants ot bang a girl, or how OMFG SHE'S SO FUCKING HOT HAHAHA. Or anything like that. A passing "She's really cute" is about all i can handle, lol. Dude I work with is always talking about how hot this chick he banged was and i just have nothing to say in that situation.

edit: I suppose there could be cultural differences at play, though.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
December 28 2014 02:00 GMT
#89893
No, it's not a cultural difference that guy from your work is likely a moron.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 02:05:31
December 28 2014 02:01 GMT
#89894
The vast majority of his stupidity and sexism is in the Fate Route. Spoilers for the Fate Route, but which are pretty much irrelevant for UBW:
+ Show Spoiler +
There are a lot of instances where Shirou tries to do the fighting in place of Saber, despite knowing that Saber is much more powerful than he is. For example, their encounter with Berserker ends with Shirou jumping in to try and be a human shield fo Saber. Shirou wanders off by himself in the middle of the war and gets himself captured like a million times in Fate as well.

There was one time IIRC where its mentioned that Ayako, a female friend of Shirou's at school, got assaulted. Shirou comments "Well maybe thats a good thing, since it will teach her to be more feminine" or something. Then there is just all the generic "I can't let Saber fight cuz shes a girl and girls shouldn't fight!", but thats so generic I can ignore it.

Then there are people who like to regurgitate out of context lines like "People die when they are killed", but you really shouldn't pay much mind to those people. The entire point of Shirou's character and FSN itself lies in what each route does with his ideals, so I'd think people would sooner hate FSN itself before they would hate Shirou for his 'ideals'.

Also, its "Shirou". 'Shiroe' has an extra syllable at the end, making it get pronounced different. Shirou is pronounced simply "Shiro", while "Shiroe" would be pronounced "Shiro ee".
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 02:09:45
December 28 2014 02:09 GMT
#89895
On December 28 2014 11:01 Sentenal wrote:
The vast majority of his stupidity and sexism is in the Fate Route. Spoilers for the Fate Route, but which are pretty much irrelevant for UBW:
+ Show Spoiler +
There are a lot of instances where Shirou tries to do the fighting in place of Saber, despite knowing that Saber is much more powerful than he is. For example, their encounter with Berserker ends with Shirou jumping in to try and be a human shield fo Saber. Shirou wanders off by himself in the middle of the war and gets himself captured like a million times in Fate as well.

There was one time IIRC where its mentioned that Ayako, a female friend of Shirou's at school, got assaulted. Shirou comments "Well maybe thats a good thing, since it will teach her to be more feminine" or something. Then there is just all the generic "I can't let Saber fight cuz shes a girl and girls shouldn't fight!", but thats so generic I can ignore it.

Then there are people who like to regurgitate out of context lines like "People die when they are killed", but you really shouldn't pay much mind to those people. The entire point of Shirou's character and FSN itself lies in what each route does with his ideals, so I'd think people would sooner hate FSN itself before they would hate Shirou for his 'ideals'.


This. There isn't anything inherently wrong with his ideals of wanting to save people. He is just really naive and it didn't help that his step dad kind of encouraged him to latch onto that concept. In the end he basically is a teenager who doesn't know shit while thinking he does and therefore he is stubborn.

One amusing thing I stumbled upon was some kid on a youtube vid commented on the Saber v Beserker fight ranting about how some minor details were different from the VN and eventually went on to say how great and awesome Shirou is and that he can totally identify with him because he also has a dad who tried to be a hero/be good to people and was betrayed and shit on. So this guy also wants to be like his dad/shirou. It was literally the 1st time I ever seen someone passionately like the character lol.
Never Knows Best.
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
December 28 2014 02:10 GMT
#89896
On December 28 2014 11:00 SK.Testie wrote:
No, it's not a cultural difference that guy from your work is likely a moron.


Apologies, I wasn't clear, my associate is definitely a moron, LOL, I meant maybe the trouble in this thread is cultural differences, since people are from all different places.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
December 28 2014 02:11 GMT
#89897
Shirou is like what people call a cockblocker. Everytime there's some crazy action scene going on, suddenly, the cameras flip to Shirou who's whining about how weak he is, or some other stupid stuffs (noted by other users). Also, there's 1 trope I hate above all : Let's all get along. Let's be friend. Let's solve this peacefully.
It has its merits, but sometimes, it's beyond ridiculous...
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 02:24:13
December 28 2014 02:18 GMT
#89898
On December 28 2014 11:10 Leyra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2014 11:00 SK.Testie wrote:
No, it's not a cultural difference that guy from your work is likely a moron.


Apologies, I wasn't clear, my associate is definitely a moron, LOL, I meant maybe the trouble in this thread is cultural differences, since people are from all different places.

well like I said, it's probably a language thing. Everyone who's vocal about it, both in irc and in this thread are from Canada or the US iirc?
The guys that said it's somewhat creepy or not creepy at all were all people from non english speaking countries and like I said, it just doesn't carry any emotion for me despite perfectly understanding the meaning.

I might have had a problem with it had it been in german, who knows but honestly, if you can see stuff like Eminem cussing about eating *insert something I apparently shouldn't say* and ripping people appart by doing so on TV like... 10~11pm on german TV I'm not even sure if that'd be the case. Think that interview was from 2009? I mostly thought it was funny and not creepy

Edit: shouldn't type after 3am
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 02:42:40
December 28 2014 02:20 GMT
#89899
^ I think Slaughter said it well on his post on the previous page. In all honesty, all he had to do was rephrase what he wrote to make it less ambiguous and at least sound better if we argue semantics to save himself from the warning.

hmm fair points everyone. I can see why he isn't liked much considering the stuff you guys wrote and some of the stuff Sent mentioned I recall hearing him say in UBW which are sexist. Ya, XenOmega, he seems to do that quite a lot lol. He was trying to get stronger in UBW at least so I can't hold the weak part over him. This part comes to mind so at least he's trying to do something:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 02:26:33
December 28 2014 02:26 GMT
#89900
[03:24:29] <blahz0r> this bigfan still hasnt learned to spoiler images like that

havn't watched it yet, but the above is apparently a spoiler so you should probably put it in a spoiler tag even if it looks awesome
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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