EPTAnime Discussion Thread - Page 4368
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Slaughter
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On November 10 2014 08:30 NeoIllusions wrote: I guess, if you want to be all cliche about it. But there are some anime adaptions that don't feel like they massively truncated the source material like I'm feeling about Grisaia. Not the best example but I really enjoyed the Mahouka LNs and the anime did a fairly good job keeping up. tbh, I'm just trying not to be outraged with Grisaia not being what I hoped. Not sure where I should be placing my expectation for things. For whatever reason, VN adapations tend to be absolute shit, while manga and LN adaptions have varing degrees of quality. Not sure what it is about VNs, but on large part, they always suck. There are some rare exceptions to this rule (UBW this season for instance, I'm very surprised its as good as it has been), but its best not to ever expect anything out of a VN adaption. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On November 10 2014 08:32 Slaughter wrote: I just watch it to see the characters animated, didn't expect much besides that. haha, prob the best path for me. On November 10 2014 08:35 Sentenal wrote: For whatever reason, VN adapations tend to be absolute shit, while manga and LN adaptions have varing degrees of quality. Not sure what it is about VNs, but on large part, they always suck. There are some rare exceptions to this rule (UBW this season for instance, I'm very surprised its as good as it has been), but its best not to ever expect anything out of a VN adaption. This this this. Not that I have many VN => anime series to reference but UBW is pretty much a majority favorite this season so a good adaptation can be done. I haven't touched the T-M universe at all yet (besides kaleid liner, rofl) but a lot of the feedback I read is def positive. The weekly /r/anime thread for Grisaia is just a clusterfuck of moaning and groaning. ;; | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On November 09 2014 17:29 goody153 wrote: + Show Spoiler + It kinda did happen during FSN 2006 as well IIRC. They do have a dojo as a house but i just assumed they have one cause Emiya Kiritsugu is filthy rich not because it was an ideal place to teach combat. Although now that i think about it Kiritsugu did train Shiro a little bit about magic so it's indeed not impossible that he also trained him with a little bit of combat as well. Missed this. + Show Spoiler + I don't know why you are saying "its not impossible" and stuff, like its a theory or something. Shirou explicitly says that he and Kiritsugu would fight each other in the dojo. Shirou's training included not only the little magic that Kiritsugu begrudgingly taught him, but also physical training, so his body could move however he wanted when the situation calls for it. | ||
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maru~
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On November 10 2014 08:30 NeoIllusions wrote: I guess, if you want to be all cliche about it. But there are some anime adaptions that don't feel like they massively truncated the source material like I'm feeling about Grisaia. Not the best example but I really enjoyed the Mahouka LNs and the anime did a fairly good job keeping up. tbh, I'm just trying not to be outraged with Grisaia not being what I hoped. Not sure where I should be placing my expectation for things. Misunderstanding? I was talking about Grisaia. | ||
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Slaughter
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maru~
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On November 10 2014 08:43 Slaughter wrote: Well UBW has the advantage of only adapting one route. Grisaia is going for the grab bag approach. Though in their defense its not like they can make an anime for each route I guess since there are 5 of them. Eh, even 2 cour instead of 1 would go a long way here, so you'd have 4-5 episodes per route instead of 1-2. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On November 10 2014 08:43 Slaughter wrote: Well UBW has the advantage of only adapting one route. Grisaia is going for the grab bag approach. Though in their defense its not like they can make an anime for each route I guess since there are 5 of them. It doesn't really matter how many routes are done, since even 1 route VN adaptions have a bad history. Just look at FSN 2006 or Tsukihime. The problem is that if they do 1 route, its incomplete, and if it does multiple routes, its almost impossible to storyboard. Thus, adapting a VN is rarely turns out well. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On November 10 2014 08:45 maru~ wrote: Eh, even 2 cour instead of 1 would go a long way here, so you'd have 4-5 episodes per route instead of 1-2. maybe they could only manage to grab time slot for 1 cour then? Can't say much sine I didn't read the VN for Grisaia but the last couple of episode seemed ok to me (- today). Lots of info in the last one (before this week) but 2 episodes would've been more than enough it feels based on what they provided for anime viewers. | ||
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maru~
2345 Posts
On November 10 2014 08:59 BigFan wrote: maybe they could only manage to grab time slot for 1 cour then? Can't say much sine I didn't read the VN for Grisaia but the last couple of episode seemed ok to me (- today). Lots of info in the last one (before this week) but 2 episodes would've been more than enough it feels based on what they provided for anime viewers. I haven't read the vn either, but Michiru's route felt like probably the most rushed thing I have seen in anime. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
but yeah I mean they needed to do like a 2cour common into 1 girl route for some decent pacing that is not butchering and even that is probably pushing it. I mean at this stage I am only watching the anime so see the characters animated with voices, not really the adeption (which sounds weird I know) | ||
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NeoIllusions
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KazeHydra
Japan2788 Posts
On November 10 2014 08:57 Sentenal wrote: It doesn't really matter how many routes are done, since even 1 route VN adaptions have a bad history. Just look at FSN 2006 or Tsukihime. The problem is that if they do 1 route, its incomplete, and if it does multiple routes, its almost impossible to storyboard. Thus, adapting a VN is rarely turns out well. Although I don't disagree, Grisaia's case is a bit different because it has sequels which retconned all the routes and didn't even bother explaining anything. Since it's been obvious since episode 1 that they aim to adapt the full trilogy, we would either get a butchery (expected, of course) or something actually good/passable because the sequels basically said "the storyboarding of all routes into one linear path makes sense and is what actually happened but we won't explain it lol." | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On November 10 2014 09:12 maru~ wrote: I haven't read the vn either, but Michiru's route felt like probably the most rushed thing I have seen in anime. what about black bullet? Several times I had to go back and check that I didn't forget something from a previous episode because they jumped so much to fill that 1 cour quota that they had. I realize it's not the same as Grisaia for obvious reasons but I would say that's just as rushed (they could've done Michiru's route in 3 episodes instead of 2 and that might've worked much much better but ya, I couldn't relate much to her). | ||
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ragz_gt
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On November 10 2014 08:57 Sentenal wrote: It doesn't really matter how many routes are done, since even 1 route VN adaptions have a bad history. Just look at FSN 2006 or Tsukihime. The problem is that if they do 1 route, its incomplete, and if it does multiple routes, its almost impossible to storyboard. Thus, adapting a VN is rarely turns out well. That's not a VN problem. That's a Studio DEEN problem. It's actually quite easy to figure out where the quality is going to be. There's a handful of studios that create quality works. Then there's everyone else that pumps out garbage. | ||
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NeoIllusions
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Sunrise(all things gundam, they sometimes do weird shit like valvrave tho) Kyoani(high quality animation usually, bit varied quality, produced K-on, Chuuni, FMP and Free!) Ufotable( KnK, Fate Zero, Fate UBW) rest are like w/e. White Fox does oke work(Steins gate, Hatarkou Maou-sama) Brain base is oke too rest is meeeh. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
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Dismay
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