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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On July 29 2014 06:54 Ecael wrote: The better a season is the fewer shows mj and toad can bring themselves to watch. I think I'll check out sabagebu when I have a chance, hope it actually isn't like dfrag. I think we've found ourselves the objective way of finding out what is the best season of all time. :3 | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Also I just got to the part in UBW where + Show Spoiler + Lancer had to impale himself rip Lancer, you were a bro. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
Funny how all lancers ends up that way, but CuChu is so much better than that sissy. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On July 29 2014 10:15 ragz_gt wrote: CuChu real bro Funny how all lancers ends up that way, but CuChu is so much better than that sissy. I remember my reaction the second time. I was like "again? For real?" Lol. Speaking of Fate, I find it weird that people always seem to say Saber strongest but her stats are pretty medicore in the VN (I don't even get why her noble fantasam is C rank, is that because in FSN Shirou was her master?). She wasn't exactly super strong in F/Z either. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + You see her stats with either Rin or Sakura as master? | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On July 29 2014 10:19 Slaughter wrote: I remember my reaction the second time. I was like "again? For real?" Lol. Speaking of Fate, I find it weird that people always seem to say Saber strongest but her stats are pretty medicore in the VN (I don't even get why her noble fantasam is C rank, is that because in FSN Shirou was her master?). She wasn't exactly super strong in F/Z either. Saber was above average with Kiritsugu (since Kiritsugu isn't much of a magus himself), but when Shirou is her master, shes shit because Shirou is a really shit magus. They talk about Magical Circuits and stuff in the VN. UBW Spoilers: + Show Spoiler + Saber's stats are super OP when Rin becomes Saber's master. This is because Rin is a powerful magus. edit: Actually I just looked at her stats with Kiritsugu, and they are still really formidable. Not the strongest we see of Saber, but leagues above Shirou-Saber. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
On July 29 2014 10:33 Sentenal wrote: Saber was above average with Kiritsugu (since Kiritsugu isn't much of a magus himself), but when Shirou is her master, shes shit because Shirou is a really shit magus. They talk about Magical Circuits and stuff in the VN. UBW Spoilers: + Show Spoiler + Saber's stats are super OP when Rin becomes Saber's master. This is because Rin is a powerful magus. edit: Actually I just looked at her stats with Kiritsugu, and they are still really formidable. Not the strongest we see of Saber, but leagues above Shirou-Saber. Is Archer (Gilgamesh) the strongest of all Servant (in perfect condition ; aka him not being cocky)? Or are there cases where Saber would be strongest, like paired with the right Master (which would justify her popularity) ? | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On July 29 2014 10:38 XenOmega wrote: Is Archer (Gilgamesh) the strongest of all Servant (in perfect condition ; aka him not being cocky)? Or are there cases where Saber would be strongest, like paired with the right Master (which would justify her popularity) ? Archer status are all mediocre, except his noble phantasm, which is EX Just happens that I have FSN on my comp from..... a long time ago: + Show Spoiler [Fate Saber] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RzQVp7j.jpg) + Show Spoiler [UBW Saber] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8gBINS8.jpg) + Show Spoiler [HF Saber] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RBebBde.jpg) | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On July 29 2014 10:38 XenOmega wrote: Is Archer (Gilgamesh) the strongest of all Servant (in perfect condition ; aka him not being cocky)? Or are there cases where Saber would be strongest, like paired with the right Master (which would justify her popularity) ? Saber's popularity is completely independent from any combat prowess. Anyway, questions like that mark when Type-Moon power levels start to get dumb. Gilgamesh's stats are balls. But hes Gilgamesh, so has pretty much every Noble Phantasm ever. But hes Gilgamesh, so has next to no idea how to use most of them. But hes Gilgamesh, so he has the strongest Noble Phantasm ever. But he still loses in every route, and not always because of arrogance. And Gilgamesh will never not be cocky, so the question is flawed in the first place. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On July 29 2014 10:48 Sentenal wrote: Saber's popularity is completely independent from any combat prowess. Anyway, questions like that mark when Type-Moon power levels start to get dumb. Gilgamesh's stats are balls. But hes Gilgamesh, so has pretty much every Noble Phantasm ever. But hes Gilgamesh, so has next to no idea how to use most of them. But hes Gilgamesh, so he has the strongest Noble Phantasm ever. But he still loses in every route, and not always because of arrogance. And Gilgamesh will never not be cocky, so the question is flawed in the first place. I think the conclusion we should be drawing here is that shota Gil is really the strongest servant ever. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
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AbareKiller
456 Posts
Saber/Lancer - Gil has shit melee combat skills. Berserker - Lose access to Gate Caster/Assassin - He'll probably kill the summoner for summoning him as a mongrel, good for nothing class. Rider - Possible, considering the class's defining trait is their NP. But you're trading Independent Action for Riding A+. Stats wise, I'm not really sure about the difference, but I don't think Rider has much/any advantage over Archer. Gil is the strongest Servant due to how broken Ea is, if you take that away, he's only high tier. Saber with a proper master can probably take him, or Hercules with a proper class/Hercules with Mad Enhancement turned on So I started the FSN VN and Christ I forgot just how much of an idiot Shirou is. I was hoping it was the anime that was making him look bad. You'll be waiting for a while. The only passable Shirou (IMO) is Heaven's Feel, but you have to run through Fate and UBW first. Or you could get the Realta Nua version (+ Patch from Beast Lair) and just play HF. | ||
Spazer
Canada8032 Posts
On July 29 2014 10:50 Ecael wrote: I think the conclusion we should be drawing here is that shota Gil is really the strongest servant ever. And the best character~ | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
Beyond that, Gilgamesh would be essentially the same regardless of what Class he is in, assuming he still can use his Noble Phantasms... And there isn't anything saying he couldn't. Gilgamesh would still be able to bust out Ea as a Saber class, for example. | ||
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AbareKiller
456 Posts
And just because Gil has a bunch of melee weapons, doesn't mean he can use it to a lancer/saber level | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
In terms of the knight classes and Rider the differences would probably be just stats. Gil being bad at melee doesn't have its ground in anything other than the fact that he doesn't want to fight in melee combat. | ||
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