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mofuli
Profile Joined October 2010
164 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 14:45:40
January 24 2014 14:45 GMT
#69301
On January 24 2014 13:15 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 11:09 Ecael wrote:
On January 24 2014 11:08 Slaughter wrote:
On January 24 2014 11:03 DeltaSigmaL wrote:
Are the LNs ever going to be translated? There's some on baka tsuki, but unless I'm mistaken, not much more has been added since a year ago.


It really depends on if they have people actively doing it or not. Plus LN take longer to translate than novels and they come out at longer intervals.

Zaregoto didn't take off, Bungaku Shoujo took ages, given those two Monogatari series probably also hopeless for official translation. Fan work is beyond me.

Poor uta ;;

Bungaku shoujo is actually one of the better examples. One vol every six months is a great timeframe if you compare it to fan translations. Plus it's nice when a release is actually guaranteed to be done in a certain period of time. ~_~

Monogatari is probably hopeless now that the anime has aired.

For a series to get translated quickly, you need rabid fans and/or a super dedicated translator. Series like SAO and index/railgun would be the former, and zaregoto (;; ) the latter. Series that lack both are doomed to eternal translation hiatus.


I'm curious, isn't there copy right issues against fan translation?
elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
January 24 2014 15:27 GMT
#69302
On January 24 2014 23:45 mofuli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 13:15 Spazer wrote:
On January 24 2014 11:09 Ecael wrote:
On January 24 2014 11:08 Slaughter wrote:
On January 24 2014 11:03 DeltaSigmaL wrote:
Are the LNs ever going to be translated? There's some on baka tsuki, but unless I'm mistaken, not much more has been added since a year ago.


It really depends on if they have people actively doing it or not. Plus LN take longer to translate than novels and they come out at longer intervals.

Zaregoto didn't take off, Bungaku Shoujo took ages, given those two Monogatari series probably also hopeless for official translation. Fan work is beyond me.

Poor uta ;;

Bungaku shoujo is actually one of the better examples. One vol every six months is a great timeframe if you compare it to fan translations. Plus it's nice when a release is actually guaranteed to be done in a certain period of time. ~_~

Monogatari is probably hopeless now that the anime has aired.

For a series to get translated quickly, you need rabid fans and/or a super dedicated translator. Series like SAO and index/railgun would be the former, and zaregoto (;; ) the latter. Series that lack both are doomed to eternal translation hiatus.


I'm curious, isn't there copy right issues against fan translation?


If they want to be assholes, then sure. But so long as no one re-packages and starts selling it then I think they close one eye to it since there are no official English translations anyway. While it is an infringement of intellectual property, they don't really have a case about lost revenue.
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
January 24 2014 16:46 GMT
#69303
It's not an issue until you get a C&D. And generally nobody cares enough to do that unless they're localizing it themselves, or are really proactive about protecting their work.

@elt: The main romance in Inari is pretty shit. This never really changes. Fortunately, the side characters are good enough to pick up a lot of the slack.
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levelping
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore759 Posts
January 24 2014 17:38 GMT
#69304
On January 24 2014 22:13 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 19:26 Dismay wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [kill la kill] +
Ryuko's still nowhere near as endearing as Satsuki or her devas. Mako is finally growing on me a little because of the interactions with Gamagoori though.


+ Show Spoiler +
The Mako and Gamagoori interaction is like the only reason I'm still watching. They're so cute. *.*

Give up the sword. I won't hesitate to use force even if it's you.

There is so much love. ;__;


+ Show Spoiler +
As someone that has visited both Kanto and Kansai regions a few times, I really dug the tokyo v osaka nonsense of the past two episodes. I would agree though that as a main character Ryuko is a little typical - the super angry and determined (but not very skilled) protagonist. Still the supporting cast is pretty fantastic (Nudist Beach can do no wrong)
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1970 Posts
January 24 2014 17:53 GMT
#69305
On January 25 2014 02:38 levelping wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 22:13 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On January 24 2014 19:26 Dismay wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [kill la kill] +
Ryuko's still nowhere near as endearing as Satsuki or her devas. Mako is finally growing on me a little because of the interactions with Gamagoori though.


+ Show Spoiler +
The Mako and Gamagoori interaction is like the only reason I'm still watching. They're so cute. *.*

Give up the sword. I won't hesitate to use force even if it's you.

There is so much love. ;__;


+ Show Spoiler +
As someone that has visited both Kanto and Kansai regions a few times, I really dug the tokyo v osaka nonsense of the past two episodes. I would agree though that as a main character Ryuko is a little typical - the super angry and determined (but not very skilled) protagonist. Still the supporting cast is pretty fantastic (Nudist Beach can do no wrong)

KIll la KIll + Show Spoiler +
Lol yeah, I hope nudist beach wins. Those walker things they had were the best.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 24 2014 18:06 GMT
#69306
Goddamn, Kill la Kill is just cool as fuck.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 24 2014 18:07 GMT
#69307
On January 25 2014 02:53 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 02:38 levelping wrote:
On January 24 2014 22:13 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On January 24 2014 19:26 Dismay wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [kill la kill] +
Ryuko's still nowhere near as endearing as Satsuki or her devas. Mako is finally growing on me a little because of the interactions with Gamagoori though.


+ Show Spoiler +
The Mako and Gamagoori interaction is like the only reason I'm still watching. They're so cute. *.*

Give up the sword. I won't hesitate to use force even if it's you.

There is so much love. ;__;


+ Show Spoiler +
As someone that has visited both Kanto and Kansai regions a few times, I really dug the tokyo v osaka nonsense of the past two episodes. I would agree though that as a main character Ryuko is a little typical - the super angry and determined (but not very skilled) protagonist. Still the supporting cast is pretty fantastic (Nudist Beach can do no wrong)

KIll la KIll + Show Spoiler +
Lol yeah, I hope nudist beach wins. Those walker things they had were the best.


Good episode, love how they didnt overpower Ryuko2.0. And there must be something going on between Mako and the sadistic macho guy lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1970 Posts
January 24 2014 18:12 GMT
#69308
I always find it funny how half the time he's randomly a giant.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
January 24 2014 18:22 GMT
#69309
Takao's voice is just perfect in D-Frag anime. Shizuka Itou <3.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
January 24 2014 18:41 GMT
#69310
How can Chuuni S1 be so boring while S2 is really good?
Skol
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
January 24 2014 18:45 GMT
#69311
On January 25 2014 03:41 Emnjay808 wrote:
How can Chuuni S1 be so boring while S2 is really good?


Clearly you are wrong about S1 :D
Never Knows Best.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
January 24 2014 19:03 GMT
#69312
On January 25 2014 03:41 Emnjay808 wrote:
How can Chuuni S1 be so boring while S2 is really good?

They seem pretty much the same to me
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
January 24 2014 19:09 GMT
#69313
On January 25 2014 03:41 Emnjay808 wrote:
How can Chuuni S1 be so boring while S2 is really good?

Since they are doing pretty much the same thing, apparently, you should just lay off the drugs.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
January 24 2014 19:10 GMT
#69314
On January 25 2014 03:41 Emnjay808 wrote:
How can Chuuni S1 be so boring while S2 is really good?

S2 is same that s1 was until they pressed the annoying drama button.

Only difference is we get a new really nice character so it gives an illusion of that s1 was worse.
#freeshauni
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
January 24 2014 19:11 GMT
#69315
On January 24 2014 07:34 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 07:16 mrmin123 wrote:
Monkey, bee, phoenix top tier. Crab somewhere close behind.


Cat dead last.

Kanbaru doesn't even exist in S2, Karen even less of a thing. Probably going to continue to be the case in S3 as well. People that don't generate lines in Monogatari can't be good, sadly.

Though if you just want a waifu then all that goes out the window~

I do think that Kanbaru and Karen are too incessant and shallow to have around all the time. However, I do find them to be the most enjoyable when they're interjected in short bursts of interaction with the other characters, and in these instances I actually find them to be more enjoyable than any other character in the show. They have a novel level of energy, perverseness, and spontaneity that the other characters don't (I'd say insanity, but all the characters are insane in their own ways). Nice contrast to the pussyfooting/brooding/conniving nature some of the other characters show.
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 19:34:10
January 24 2014 19:21 GMT
#69316
So more like they aren't around enough for you to have enough things to dislike about them. Wait for Hana where it is just Kanbaru internal monologues for like 70% of the book.

One thing though, unless every other character really sucks, I have a hard time justifying calling minor characters the best in a series. The amount of appearances is just too different more often than not unless the one generating the content is purposely trying to keep things that way. Nishio obviously knows what he is doing when he keeps Gahara-san appearances low and yet maintains her presence. Kanbaru somewhat enjoys that treatment. Karen at this point is practically just a minor character that will from time to time show up and drop some lines while things happens at Araragi household.
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
January 24 2014 19:58 GMT
#69317
It's like when you meet somebody for the first time and they seem pretty cool, then you see them a few more times here and there and you continue to think that they're fun, and then you begin to learn more about their personalities that make you go 'wait, what?'

If you take that analogy, I'm at the 'you're still pretty chill' stage with Kanbaru/Karen/Tsukihi.

Now, with works of fiction the problem is that I might encounter a minor character and be like 'hey, you're a pretty interesting person, I'd like to know you better' and have that trajectory under the control of a third party (the author/writer/director), but that doesn't keep me from thinking positively of that character, minor or not. That said, (I haven't read the LNs but assuming that the animes haven't strayed too far from them,) Nishio has done a good job of keeping the probably most vapid characters from having too much presence to keep them the most interesting to me.

Not sure how much I look forward to Kanbaru's internal monologues.
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
January 24 2014 20:52 GMT
#69318
They were objectively good but not very monogatari-like and so people hate it.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 24 2014 21:04 GMT
#69319
Chu S2 is just as good as Chu1 was before the drama part, pretty good.

and yes D-frag Takao is love.
WriterXiao8~~
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 21:26:49
January 24 2014 21:26 GMT
#69320
On January 25 2014 01:46 Spazer wrote:
It's not an issue until you get a C&D. And generally nobody cares enough to do that unless they're localizing it themselves, or are really proactive about protecting their work.

@elt: The main romance in Inari is pretty shit. This never really changes. Fortunately, the side characters are good enough to pick up a lot of the slack.


The romance seems generic atm but the main girl is cute. Its all about Ukanomitama though :3 Plus Amaterasu was pretty good.
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