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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 03:11:22
November 27 2013 02:33 GMT
#66081
On November 27 2013 11:30 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 11:23 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

I think his last part answers your question perfectly (even though he was referring to something else)

Are you being serious? The guy clearly said he had no interest in watching it. Therefore, he has not watched it. And if he has not watched it, how can he know its not a "must see" anime? He can't. This is simple shit, Bigfan. When reading stuff, please try to actually understand whats being said.


I didn't say it wasn't a must see anime. What I meant is that its not a must see FOR ME even though for a lot of people it is considered a must see. I know this because I read about it and I am not really into that genre at all. Could I end up liking it if I sat down and watched it? Sure, but based simply on what I know of LoGH and the fact that its an aesthetically older style of animation that I never was a fan of doesn't make it a priority to watch (especially since its fairly long).


I actually find myself agreeing with this, partially because my interests in things shift really quickly from one thing to another, and also because the task of hitting LoGH is just daunting. I know the obvious argument is just "take one episode a day" but that still doesn't change how much you're going to be watching.

I mean at the end of the day we all have certain tastes, and as much as I say other people have awful taste, I think Slaughter brings up a pretty fair point: not everyone sees anime for the type of medium that I see it, or Elem, or Sent(not saying we all see anime the same way...in fact I think we're all different so yeh). We all have varying perspectives and for that reason it's unfair, even to Emnjay (almost), to criticize them for just watching certain shows that some of us may perceive to be of less quality or some other thing.

edit: blah blah blah I resist temptation and must be better person zzzz
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1972 Posts
November 27 2013 02:54 GMT
#66082
Wait, did you post something which suggested you weren't a good person and then edit it out? I'm curious now.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 27 2013 02:55 GMT
#66083
On November 27 2013 11:33 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 11:30 Slaughter wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:23 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

I think his last part answers your question perfectly (even though he was referring to something else)

Are you being serious? The guy clearly said he had no interest in watching it. Therefore, he has not watched it. And if he has not watched it, how can he know its not a "must see" anime? He can't. This is simple shit, Bigfan. When reading stuff, please try to actually understand whats being said.


I didn't say it wasn't a must see anime. What I meant is that its not a must see FOR ME even though for a lot of people it is considered a must see. I know this because I read about it and I am not really into that genre at all. Could I end up liking it if I sat down and watched it? Sure, but based simply on what I know of LoGH and the fact that its an aesthetically older style of animation that I never was a fan of doesn't make it a priority to watch (especially since its fairly long).


I actually find myself agreeing with this, partially because my interests in things shift really quickly from one thing to another, and also because the task of hitting LoGH is just daunting. I know the obvious argument is just "take one episode a day" but that still doesn't change how much you're going to be watching.

I mean at the end of the day we all have certain tastes, and as much as I say other people have awful taste, I think Slaughter brings up a pretty fair point: not everyone sees anime for the type of medium that I see it, or Elem, or Sent(not saying we all see anime the same way...in fact I think we're all different so yeh). We all have varying perspectives and for that reason it's unfair, even to Emnjay (almost), to criticize them for just watching it for one particular type of show.

edit: blah blah blah I resist temptation and must be better person zzzz

lols on edit. I caught your original umm comment Otherwise, good post
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
November 27 2013 02:56 GMT
#66084
this wouldnt be a problem if plebs learned 2 watch anime intellectually
the courage to be a lazy bum
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 02:58:53
November 27 2013 02:58 GMT
#66085
On November 27 2013 11:29 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

On November 27 2013 11:16 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

thank you Slaughter. This is exactly what I wanted to write but wasn't sure how to phrase it well enough. Even though some people think Pet Sakura is at best average and others think it's shit, I enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed Clannad and Little Busters etc...

The point
your head

I did not miss your point, no need to be passive aggressive ><; Slaughter wrote exactly what I was going to post. "Must see" animes can also be subjective. To me, they are 'must see' because more people than not liked them but doesn't mean that I would like it as well. As it's already obvious, I have a different taste in anime than most people on here. LoGH seems ok but I wouldn't dedicate that much time to watch it unless I was really really interested in it. I can watch several other animes that seemed as interesting to me and I'm fine with that.
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 11:23 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

I think his last part answers your question perfectly (even though he was referring to something else)

Are you being serious? The guy clearly said he had no interest in watching it. Therefore, he has not watched it. And if he has not watched it, how can he know its not a "must see" anime? He can't. This is simple shit, Bigfan. When reading stuff, please try to actually understand whats being said.

I was referring to the point that he said he had no interest in it and that just because something is a "must see" anime, it doesn't mean that he will necessarily like it thus why I bolded the subjective part. Point is, I'm not commenting on LoGH as an anime. I'm commenting on the whole 'must see' concept and how there's still subjectivity to it. I think you're misunderstanding what I was commenting on.

Oh great, someone taught you a new phrase. I'd like to think there is nothing passive about my posts, but whatever. First off, stop trying to twist other people's post into what you wanted to say. Additionally, stop being so arrogant as to think I'm applying what other people said to you. My "are you serious?" post had nothing at all to do with your views or opinions on LoGH or anything for that matter. It had to do with you not reading. Not everything I post is about you. And finally, everything I've said in the past few posts are 100% truth. Everything from "you could have watched 100 20~minute episodes in the time it took you to watch 4x25 20~ minute episodes", to "You can't say whether an anime is 'must see' or not without having watched it".

On November 27 2013 11:30 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 11:23 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

I think his last part answers your question perfectly (even though he was referring to something else)

Are you being serious? The guy clearly said he had no interest in watching it. Therefore, he has not watched it. And if he has not watched it, how can he know its not a "must see" anime? He can't. This is simple shit, Bigfan. When reading stuff, please try to actually understand whats being said.


I didn't say it wasn't a must see anime. What I meant is that its not a must see FOR ME even though for a lot of people it is considered a must see. I know this because I read about it and I am not really into that genre at all. Could I end up liking it if I sat down and watched it? Sure, but based simply on what I know of LoGH and the fact that its an aesthetically older style of animation that I never was a fan of doesn't make it a priority to watch (especially since its fairly long).

lol, of course its not a "must see" anime for you, you haven't watched it. Before you watch any anime, you have no idea how good or bad it will be to you. You could have an anime that is in the type of genre that you like, and then end up thinking its absolute shit. You could have an anime in a genre you hate, and end up loving it. You simply don't know until you watch it. With that in mind, the argument of time becomes completely invalid, since it just becomes "4 shows that lots of people don't think much of" vs "1 show that lots of people like". Its the same time investment for both, especially when before going into any of them, you should be viewing them all with a blank slate, since you haven't seen any of them. As an aside/disclaimer, I'm not trying to imply that what "lots of people" think effects the quality of the shows involved, or that you should or will agree with what all those people think.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 03:01:39
November 27 2013 03:01 GMT
#66086
On November 27 2013 11:54 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Wait, did you post something which suggested you weren't a good person and then edit it out? I'm curious now.


Just had a long talk about how I was wrong and should just focus my time on posting more stuff rather than dicking around in this thread. *shrug*

On November 27 2013 11:56 ZoW wrote:
this wouldnt be a problem if plebs learned 2 watch anime intellectually


pls
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
November 27 2013 03:12 GMT
#66087


After watching 11 eps of Tari Tari, it was definitely worth it.
Skol
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 27 2013 03:13 GMT
#66088
The music always feels so wrong in Claymore. :\
Never Knows Best.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 03:37:10
November 27 2013 03:15 GMT
#66089
On November 27 2013 11:58 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 11:29 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

On November 27 2013 11:16 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

thank you Slaughter. This is exactly what I wanted to write but wasn't sure how to phrase it well enough. Even though some people think Pet Sakura is at best average and others think it's shit, I enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed Clannad and Little Busters etc...

The point
your head

I did not miss your point, no need to be passive aggressive ><; Slaughter wrote exactly what I was going to post. "Must see" animes can also be subjective. To me, they are 'must see' because more people than not liked them but doesn't mean that I would like it as well. As it's already obvious, I have a different taste in anime than most people on here. LoGH seems ok but I wouldn't dedicate that much time to watch it unless I was really really interested in it. I can watch several other animes that seemed as interesting to me and I'm fine with that.
On November 27 2013 11:23 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

I think his last part answers your question perfectly (even though he was referring to something else)

Are you being serious? The guy clearly said he had no interest in watching it. Therefore, he has not watched it. And if he has not watched it, how can he know its not a "must see" anime? He can't. This is simple shit, Bigfan. When reading stuff, please try to actually understand whats being said.

I was referring to the point that he said he had no interest in it and that just because something is a "must see" anime, it doesn't mean that he will necessarily like it thus why I bolded the subjective part. Point is, I'm not commenting on LoGH as an anime. I'm commenting on the whole 'must see' concept and how there's still subjectivity to it. I think you're misunderstanding what I was commenting on.

Oh great, someone taught you a new phrase. I'd like to think there is nothing passive about my posts, but whatever. First off, stop trying to twist other people's post into what you wanted to say. Additionally, stop being so arrogant as to think I'm applying what other people said to you. My "are you serious?" post had nothing at all to do with your views or opinions on LoGH or anything for that matter. It had to do with you not reading. Not everything I post is about you. And finally, everything I've said in the past few posts are 100% truth. Everything from "you could have watched 100 20~minute episodes in the time it took you to watch 4x25 20~ minute episodes", to "You can't say whether an anime is 'must see' or not without having watched it".

new phrase? what are you talking about? I did not twist anything. I simply said that what Slaughter wrote about time was exactly what I wanted to write and explains why time is a reason for me choosing smaller animes to watch which is why I quoted his post in response. I'm not being arrogant about it. I'm just responding to the 'must see' anime concept. Not sure how you got arrogance out of that. I wrote I had no opinion on LoGH to make sure that I wasn't involving the anime in my points. Again, I'll quote this since you missed it:
"LoGH seems ok but I wouldn't dedicate that much time to watch it unless I was really really interested in it. I can watch several other animes that seemed as interesting to me and I'm fine with that. "
Point is, the overall anime time might be the same(it's actually a bit less for my 4 animes to LoGH(3-4 episodes or so)) but the allocation is completely different which screws up with my schedule. You'll welcome to your opinion, just like I'm welcome to mine and I have my reasons for not watching long animes.

edit: bolded important part.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 27 2013 03:23 GMT
#66090
When it comes to time its relatively easy to make small investments to check out a show to see if its worth it investing a long time into. If your talking in absolute time investment though (the 1 vs 4 that was mentioned). I would rather go for the 4 because it provides more chances to find something you like rather then sinking your eggs into one basket, but that is a rather unrealistic way of looking at things. If you want to try a show that is long like LoGH you sit down and watch and if it doesn't float your boat you simply stop and move on. Time doesn't stop me from watching LoGH, my interests do.

The question is rather if you are in the mood to broaden your traditional sphere of taste or not. Time doesn't constrict in the absolute sense, it just pushes other shows to be viewed farther in time. If your in a time crunch and can only watch 1 of 3 anime due to school or work w/e picking one doesn't eliminate the possibility of watching the other two, you simply do so at a later time.
Never Knows Best.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 03:42:52
November 27 2013 03:37 GMT
#66091
On November 27 2013 12:15 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 11:58 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:29 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

On November 27 2013 11:16 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

thank you Slaughter. This is exactly what I wanted to write but wasn't sure how to phrase it well enough. Even though some people think Pet Sakura is at best average and others think it's shit, I enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed Clannad and Little Busters etc...

The point
your head

I did not miss your point, no need to be passive aggressive ><; Slaughter wrote exactly what I was going to post. "Must see" animes can also be subjective. To me, they are 'must see' because more people than not liked them but doesn't mean that I would like it as well. As it's already obvious, I have a different taste in anime than most people on here. LoGH seems ok but I wouldn't dedicate that much time to watch it unless I was really really interested in it. I can watch several other animes that seemed as interesting to me and I'm fine with that.
On November 27 2013 11:23 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

I think his last part answers your question perfectly (even though he was referring to something else)

Are you being serious? The guy clearly said he had no interest in watching it. Therefore, he has not watched it. And if he has not watched it, how can he know its not a "must see" anime? He can't. This is simple shit, Bigfan. When reading stuff, please try to actually understand whats being said.

I was referring to the point that he said he had no interest in it and that just because something is a "must see" anime, it doesn't mean that he will necessarily like it thus why I bolded the subjective part. Point is, I'm not commenting on LoGH as an anime. I'm commenting on the whole 'must see' concept and how there's still subjectivity to it. I think you're misunderstanding what I was commenting on.

Oh great, someone taught you a new phrase. I'd like to think there is nothing passive about my posts, but whatever. First off, stop trying to twist other people's post into what you wanted to say. Additionally, stop being so arrogant as to think I'm applying what other people said to you. My "are you serious?" post had nothing at all to do with your views or opinions on LoGH or anything for that matter. It had to do with you not reading. Not everything I post is about you. And finally, everything I've said in the past few posts are 100% truth. Everything from "you could have watched 100 20~minute episodes in the time it took you to watch 4x25 20~ minute episodes", to "You can't say whether an anime is 'must see' or not without having watched it".

new phrase? what are you talking about? I did not twist anything. I simply said that what Slaughter wrote about time was exactly what I wanted to write and explains why time is a reason for me choosing smaller animes to watch which is why I quoted his post in response. I'm not being arrogant about it. I'm just responding to the 'must see' anime concept. Not sure how you got arrogance out of that. I wrote I had no opinion on LoGH to make sure that I wasn't involving the anime in my points. Again, I'll quote this since you missed it:
"LoGH seems ok but I wouldn't dedicate that much time to watch it unless I was really really interested in it. I can watch several other animes that seemed as interesting to me and I'm fine with that. "
Point is, the overall anime time might be the same(it's actually a bit less for my 4 animes to LoGH(3-4 episodes or so)) but the allocation is completely different which screws up with my schedule. If you still don't understand this last part, I'm sorry but I don't plan on repeating it again. You'll welcome to your opinion, just like I'm welcome to mine and I have my reasons for not watching long animes.

This is what I mean by arrogant. The only things I've said to you in the past few pages (paraphrased) is "lol time not an excuse!" and "you don't read". I never said anything TO YOU about "must see" anime. I never said anything TO YOU you having an opinion on LoGH. Beyond the random joking comment I made in the very beginning, I haven't said anything TO YOU about time allocation (I fact, I've ignored every point you have made about it because I don't really care). Everything else was to Slaughter, or telling you to read. And you arrogantly twist everything I've said into me arguing with you about stuff.

On November 27 2013 12:23 Slaughter wrote:
When it comes to time its relatively easy to make small investments to check out a show to see if its worth it investing a long time into. If your talking in absolute time investment though (the 1 vs 4 that was mentioned). I would rather go for the 4 because it provides more chances to find something you like rather then sinking your eggs into one basket, but that is a rather unrealistic way of looking at things. If you want to try a show that is long like LoGH you sit down and watch and if it doesn't float your boat you simply stop and move on. Time doesn't stop me from watching LoGH, my interests do.

The question is rather if you are in the mood to broaden your traditional sphere of taste or not. Time doesn't constrict in the absolute sense, it just pushes other shows to be viewed farther in time. If your in a time crunch and can only watch 1 of 3 anime due to school or work w/e picking one doesn't eliminate the possibility of watching the other two, you simply do so at a later time.

Yeah, time isn't stopping you, your interest are, I agree. Which is why I say "time" is a non-argument. Aka, if someone had the time to watch 4 25ep anime, they could have instead watched 1 100ep anime in that time. The reason they chose the 4x25 ones is because of interest, and not because of time.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 04:08:01
November 27 2013 04:07 GMT
#66092
On November 27 2013 12:37 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 12:15 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:58 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:29 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

On November 27 2013 11:16 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

thank you Slaughter. This is exactly what I wanted to write but wasn't sure how to phrase it well enough. Even though some people think Pet Sakura is at best average and others think it's shit, I enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed Clannad and Little Busters etc...

The point
your head

I did not miss your point, no need to be passive aggressive ><; Slaughter wrote exactly what I was going to post. "Must see" animes can also be subjective. To me, they are 'must see' because more people than not liked them but doesn't mean that I would like it as well. As it's already obvious, I have a different taste in anime than most people on here. LoGH seems ok but I wouldn't dedicate that much time to watch it unless I was really really interested in it. I can watch several other animes that seemed as interesting to me and I'm fine with that.
On November 27 2013 11:23 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

I think his last part answers your question perfectly (even though he was referring to something else)

Are you being serious? The guy clearly said he had no interest in watching it. Therefore, he has not watched it. And if he has not watched it, how can he know its not a "must see" anime? He can't. This is simple shit, Bigfan. When reading stuff, please try to actually understand whats being said.

I was referring to the point that he said he had no interest in it and that just because something is a "must see" anime, it doesn't mean that he will necessarily like it thus why I bolded the subjective part. Point is, I'm not commenting on LoGH as an anime. I'm commenting on the whole 'must see' concept and how there's still subjectivity to it. I think you're misunderstanding what I was commenting on.

Oh great, someone taught you a new phrase. I'd like to think there is nothing passive about my posts, but whatever. First off, stop trying to twist other people's post into what you wanted to say. Additionally, stop being so arrogant as to think I'm applying what other people said to you. My "are you serious?" post had nothing at all to do with your views or opinions on LoGH or anything for that matter. It had to do with you not reading. Not everything I post is about you. And finally, everything I've said in the past few posts are 100% truth. Everything from "you could have watched 100 20~minute episodes in the time it took you to watch 4x25 20~ minute episodes", to "You can't say whether an anime is 'must see' or not without having watched it".

new phrase? what are you talking about? I did not twist anything. I simply said that what Slaughter wrote about time was exactly what I wanted to write and explains why time is a reason for me choosing smaller animes to watch which is why I quoted his post in response. I'm not being arrogant about it. I'm just responding to the 'must see' anime concept. Not sure how you got arrogance out of that. I wrote I had no opinion on LoGH to make sure that I wasn't involving the anime in my points. Again, I'll quote this since you missed it:
"LoGH seems ok but I wouldn't dedicate that much time to watch it unless I was really really interested in it. I can watch several other animes that seemed as interesting to me and I'm fine with that. "
Point is, the overall anime time might be the same(it's actually a bit less for my 4 animes to LoGH(3-4 episodes or so)) but the allocation is completely different which screws up with my schedule. If you still don't understand this last part, I'm sorry but I don't plan on repeating it again. You'll welcome to your opinion, just like I'm welcome to mine and I have my reasons for not watching long animes.

This is what I mean by arrogant. The only things I've said to you in the past few pages (paraphrased) is "lol time not an excuse!" and "you don't read". I never said anything TO YOU about "must see" anime. I never said anything TO YOU you having an opinion on LoGH. Beyond the random joking comment I made in the very beginning, I haven't said anything TO YOU about time allocation (I fact, I've ignored every point you have made about it because I don't really care). Everything else was to Slaughter, or telling you to read. And you arrogantly twist everything I've said into me arguing with you about stuff.

you seem to forget this post:
"The point
your head"
this is why I said passive aggressive in my reply. I know you didn't say it to me but I added in what I thought "must see" animes are(which is 100% true defn) since I quoted slaughter's post as a response to my time point and felt that I had to mention it since it was related.

I only mentioned LoGH because you mentioned it in your initial response when I was commenting to another TL poster. Time and time allocation are related. You're free to reply to this if you want but I doubt you'll get a reply from me to continue this pointless discussion since it's a waste of my time.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
November 27 2013 04:08 GMT
#66093
On November 27 2013 10:43 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 10:40 tonight wrote:
I didn't mind Tari Tari, but it was nothing special at all


What does your fiancee think when she sees your bearded monstrosity watching something like Tari Tari?


She ignores it because she knows I would often watch garbage.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 27 2013 04:11 GMT
#66094
On November 27 2013 13:07 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 12:37 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 12:15 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:58 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:29 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

On November 27 2013 11:16 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

thank you Slaughter. This is exactly what I wanted to write but wasn't sure how to phrase it well enough. Even though some people think Pet Sakura is at best average and others think it's shit, I enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed Clannad and Little Busters etc...

The point
your head

I did not miss your point, no need to be passive aggressive ><; Slaughter wrote exactly what I was going to post. "Must see" animes can also be subjective. To me, they are 'must see' because more people than not liked them but doesn't mean that I would like it as well. As it's already obvious, I have a different taste in anime than most people on here. LoGH seems ok but I wouldn't dedicate that much time to watch it unless I was really really interested in it. I can watch several other animes that seemed as interesting to me and I'm fine with that.
On November 27 2013 11:23 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

I think his last part answers your question perfectly (even though he was referring to something else)

Are you being serious? The guy clearly said he had no interest in watching it. Therefore, he has not watched it. And if he has not watched it, how can he know its not a "must see" anime? He can't. This is simple shit, Bigfan. When reading stuff, please try to actually understand whats being said.

I was referring to the point that he said he had no interest in it and that just because something is a "must see" anime, it doesn't mean that he will necessarily like it thus why I bolded the subjective part. Point is, I'm not commenting on LoGH as an anime. I'm commenting on the whole 'must see' concept and how there's still subjectivity to it. I think you're misunderstanding what I was commenting on.

Oh great, someone taught you a new phrase. I'd like to think there is nothing passive about my posts, but whatever. First off, stop trying to twist other people's post into what you wanted to say. Additionally, stop being so arrogant as to think I'm applying what other people said to you. My "are you serious?" post had nothing at all to do with your views or opinions on LoGH or anything for that matter. It had to do with you not reading. Not everything I post is about you. And finally, everything I've said in the past few posts are 100% truth. Everything from "you could have watched 100 20~minute episodes in the time it took you to watch 4x25 20~ minute episodes", to "You can't say whether an anime is 'must see' or not without having watched it".

new phrase? what are you talking about? I did not twist anything. I simply said that what Slaughter wrote about time was exactly what I wanted to write and explains why time is a reason for me choosing smaller animes to watch which is why I quoted his post in response. I'm not being arrogant about it. I'm just responding to the 'must see' anime concept. Not sure how you got arrogance out of that. I wrote I had no opinion on LoGH to make sure that I wasn't involving the anime in my points. Again, I'll quote this since you missed it:
"LoGH seems ok but I wouldn't dedicate that much time to watch it unless I was really really interested in it. I can watch several other animes that seemed as interesting to me and I'm fine with that. "
Point is, the overall anime time might be the same(it's actually a bit less for my 4 animes to LoGH(3-4 episodes or so)) but the allocation is completely different which screws up with my schedule. If you still don't understand this last part, I'm sorry but I don't plan on repeating it again. You'll welcome to your opinion, just like I'm welcome to mine and I have my reasons for not watching long animes.

This is what I mean by arrogant. The only things I've said to you in the past few pages (paraphrased) is "lol time not an excuse!" and "you don't read". I never said anything TO YOU about "must see" anime. I never said anything TO YOU you having an opinion on LoGH. Beyond the random joking comment I made in the very beginning, I haven't said anything TO YOU about time allocation (I fact, I've ignored every point you have made about it because I don't really care). Everything else was to Slaughter, or telling you to read. And you arrogantly twist everything I've said into me arguing with you about stuff.

you seem to forget this post:
"The point
your head"
this is why I said passive aggressive in my reply. I know you didn't say it to me but I added in what I thought "must see" animes are(which is 100% true defn) since I quoted slaughter's post as a response to my time point and felt that I had to mention it since it was related.

I only mentioned LoGH because you mentioned it in your initial response when I was commenting to another TL poster. Time and time allocation are related. You're free to reply to this if you want but I doubt you'll get a reply from me to continue this pointless discussion since it's a waste of my time.

See, arrogance. Everything has to about you. And twisting what people say into what you want them to say. And not reading.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
November 27 2013 04:12 GMT
#66095
Too many archons posting. Totally fucking me up.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 27 2013 04:19 GMT
#66096
On November 27 2013 13:11 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 13:07 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 12:37 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 12:15 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:58 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:29 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

On November 27 2013 11:16 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

thank you Slaughter. This is exactly what I wanted to write but wasn't sure how to phrase it well enough. Even though some people think Pet Sakura is at best average and others think it's shit, I enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed Clannad and Little Busters etc...

The point
your head

I did not miss your point, no need to be passive aggressive ><; Slaughter wrote exactly what I was going to post. "Must see" animes can also be subjective. To me, they are 'must see' because more people than not liked them but doesn't mean that I would like it as well. As it's already obvious, I have a different taste in anime than most people on here. LoGH seems ok but I wouldn't dedicate that much time to watch it unless I was really really interested in it. I can watch several other animes that seemed as interesting to me and I'm fine with that.
On November 27 2013 11:23 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:19 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:18 Sentenal wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:07 Slaughter wrote:
Time makes perfect sense. There aren't that many "must see" anime out there tbh. What I mean specifically is, even if a show is considered great and all it still won't appeal to everyone. So when you take personal taste into account you narrow your field of what anime you enjoy considerably and that allows for watching plenty of "average" anime because average anime still give plenty of enjoyment and don't really tie up your time to the extent where you are missing anything of importance. I for example have no interest what so ever in watching LoGH, a series that seems to enjoy high esteem of a large number of people. We are also somewhat wandering into the subjective here as any show someone labels "average-at-best" is also other peoples "favorite of all time".

And you know that LoGH is not one of them, because why?

I think his last part answers your question perfectly (even though he was referring to something else)

Are you being serious? The guy clearly said he had no interest in watching it. Therefore, he has not watched it. And if he has not watched it, how can he know its not a "must see" anime? He can't. This is simple shit, Bigfan. When reading stuff, please try to actually understand whats being said.

I was referring to the point that he said he had no interest in it and that just because something is a "must see" anime, it doesn't mean that he will necessarily like it thus why I bolded the subjective part. Point is, I'm not commenting on LoGH as an anime. I'm commenting on the whole 'must see' concept and how there's still subjectivity to it. I think you're misunderstanding what I was commenting on.

Oh great, someone taught you a new phrase. I'd like to think there is nothing passive about my posts, but whatever. First off, stop trying to twist other people's post into what you wanted to say. Additionally, stop being so arrogant as to think I'm applying what other people said to you. My "are you serious?" post had nothing at all to do with your views or opinions on LoGH or anything for that matter. It had to do with you not reading. Not everything I post is about you. And finally, everything I've said in the past few posts are 100% truth. Everything from "you could have watched 100 20~minute episodes in the time it took you to watch 4x25 20~ minute episodes", to "You can't say whether an anime is 'must see' or not without having watched it".

new phrase? what are you talking about? I did not twist anything. I simply said that what Slaughter wrote about time was exactly what I wanted to write and explains why time is a reason for me choosing smaller animes to watch which is why I quoted his post in response. I'm not being arrogant about it. I'm just responding to the 'must see' anime concept. Not sure how you got arrogance out of that. I wrote I had no opinion on LoGH to make sure that I wasn't involving the anime in my points. Again, I'll quote this since you missed it:
"LoGH seems ok but I wouldn't dedicate that much time to watch it unless I was really really interested in it. I can watch several other animes that seemed as interesting to me and I'm fine with that. "
Point is, the overall anime time might be the same(it's actually a bit less for my 4 animes to LoGH(3-4 episodes or so)) but the allocation is completely different which screws up with my schedule. If you still don't understand this last part, I'm sorry but I don't plan on repeating it again. You'll welcome to your opinion, just like I'm welcome to mine and I have my reasons for not watching long animes.

This is what I mean by arrogant. The only things I've said to you in the past few pages (paraphrased) is "lol time not an excuse!" and "you don't read". I never said anything TO YOU about "must see" anime. I never said anything TO YOU you having an opinion on LoGH. Beyond the random joking comment I made in the very beginning, I haven't said anything TO YOU about time allocation (I fact, I've ignored every point you have made about it because I don't really care). Everything else was to Slaughter, or telling you to read. And you arrogantly twist everything I've said into me arguing with you about stuff.

you seem to forget this post:
"The point
your head"
this is why I said passive aggressive in my reply. I know you didn't say it to me but I added in what I thought "must see" animes are(which is 100% true defn) since I quoted slaughter's post as a response to my time point and felt that I had to mention it since it was related.

I only mentioned LoGH because you mentioned it in your initial response when I was commenting to another TL poster. Time and time allocation are related. You're free to reply to this if you want but I doubt you'll get a reply from me to continue this pointless discussion since it's a waste of my time.

See, arrogance. Everything has to about you. And twisting what people say into what you want them to say. And not reading.

I said I won't respond but I'll give this last reply: you're right, this last post explaining my reasoning was really arrogant..... Should take your own advice and go back and read the first posts on the subject.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 27 2013 04:26 GMT
#66097
Can't we all just watch anime and get along? ;D

On November 27 2013 13:12 tonight wrote:
Too many archons posting. Totally fucking me up.


FOR THE SWARM!
Never Knows Best.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 27 2013 04:27 GMT
#66098
On November 27 2013 13:26 Slaughter wrote:
Can't we all just watch anime and get along? ;D

Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 13:12 tonight wrote:
Too many archons posting. Totally fucking me up.


FOR THE SWARM!

I'm a terran player, down with the swarm!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
November 27 2013 05:10 GMT
#66099
On November 27 2013 13:27 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 13:26 Slaughter wrote:
Can't we all just watch anime and get along? ;D

On November 27 2013 13:12 tonight wrote:
Too many archons posting. Totally fucking me up.


FOR THE SWARM!

I'm a terran player, down with the swarm!

Terran player with a protoss icon... fail bigfan, fail.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 05:12:29
November 27 2013 05:11 GMT
#66100
be nice, children

just came here to say, started watching mushi-shi, very good

On November 27 2013 14:10 TanKLoveR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 13:27 BigFan wrote:
On November 27 2013 13:26 Slaughter wrote:
Can't we all just watch anime and get along? ;D

On November 27 2013 13:12 tonight wrote:
Too many archons posting. Totally fucking me up.


FOR THE SWARM!

I'm a terran player, down with the swarm!

Terran player with a protoss icon... fail bigfan, fail.

i used archon before hitting 8k as well.... now science vessel.... im a zerg player :3
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