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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 15:38:44
November 23 2013 15:33 GMT
#65901
On November 24 2013 00:28 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I prefer using the phrase "what it is for me" when it comes to "questionable" choices of anime, or really any anime.


I do that with K-ON all the time. xD

On November 24 2013 00:18 Emnjay808 wrote:
Eh, I liked Ben-to for what it was.

And IS for what it is.

And SYD for what it will be.


I mean, at this point, for all the shows with no substance you've watched and liked that's really all you can say in their defense to be honest. :/
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50466 Posts
November 23 2013 15:42 GMT
#65902
On November 24 2013 00:33 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 00:28 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I prefer using the phrase "what it is for me" when it comes to "questionable" choices of anime, or really any anime.


I do that with K-ON all the time. xD

Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 00:18 Emnjay808 wrote:
Eh, I liked Ben-to for what it was.

And IS for what it is.

And SYD for what it will be.


I mean, at this point, for all the shows with no substance you've watched and liked that's really all you can say in their defense to be honest. :/


sometimes I just like to switch off my brain and watch something just for the fun of it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
November 23 2013 15:42 GMT
#65903
Same here! \o/
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50466 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 15:51:13
November 23 2013 15:50 GMT
#65904
and yet you question how anyone could like IS or Ben-to
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 15:52:33
November 23 2013 15:52 GMT
#65905
On November 24 2013 00:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
and yet you question how anyone could like IS or Ben-to


I don't. Where did I say "how can anyone like IS/Ben-to?"
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50466 Posts
November 23 2013 15:56 GMT
#65906
On November 23 2013 22:49 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 15:02 Emnjay808 wrote:
On November 23 2013 14:03 XenOmega wrote:
THIS WEEK KILL LA KILL SO AMAZINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Any other anime similar : fighting, crazy, funny?

Ben-to


Please. Stop. That anime was so bad. >.>


maybe I'm reading into it too much and am putting words in your mouth but the way you phrased the above line suggests so.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 16:04:21
November 23 2013 16:02 GMT
#65907
On November 24 2013 00:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 22:49 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 23 2013 15:02 Emnjay808 wrote:
On November 23 2013 14:03 XenOmega wrote:
THIS WEEK KILL LA KILL SO AMAZINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Any other anime similar : fighting, crazy, funny?

Ben-to


Please. Stop. That anime was so bad. >.>


maybe I'm reading into it too much and am putting words in your mouth but the way you phrased the above line suggests so.


I don't see how you could think that when I enjoy K-ON, which is probably considered one of the most cancerous anime to the industry these days given the waves of moe that now come out.

I mean, I have my own opinion on stuff, and as much as I project it, I don't mean to question other people's tastes (most of the time) if they like something I don't.

Also, I'm really only calling out Emnjay on this, and I guess if you don't know about my qualms (and maybe a lot of other people's qualms...iono) with Emnjay, then it's understandable that you're misunderstanding, so yeah. I just think from personal experience and seeing Emnjay's post I'd want other people to stay away from his recommendations as much as possible.

Pretty sure if anyone else recommended Ben-to I would've just said "-3-" and been done with it.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
November 23 2013 16:10 GMT
#65908
Thanks for the suggestion ZNF, never heard of Hourou Musuko before O.o. Didn't even know there was a shoujo type anime that touches on this subject, not that I'm surprised. I'll add it to the list. Do you know anything older though? I think older stuff like Kare Kano are usually better, someone suggested Fruit Basket but I don't like all that magic/fantasy stuff in shoujos.

Am I the only person who watched K-ON! and didn't think it was like the bringer of darkness or something for all anime? lol. I thought it was really funny and that's why I liked it, the humor was cliche but I liked the characters so it entertained me . I think I've mentioned before but I still don't quite get what "moe" is, if it stands for girls fucking around not really doing anything then I guess that's K-ON! right there but I didn't hear this term until long after I finished K-ON!. Thought it was just another comedy , like Nodame but with tea and sweets instead of music and an interesting story.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 16:16:25
November 23 2013 16:14 GMT
#65909
Don't think it's really shoujo TanKLoveR. Just a school drama anime. And frankly, I don't watch all that many shoujo/drama anime...or any anime these days since I've been busy with other stuff. Did you watch Nana? That's old and I think a friend of mine really liked it. It's...incomplete though which is why she ended up giving it a really low score to show how dissatisfied with it (the author got really ill so the probabilities of her finishing are...near zero ).

K-ON is just considered cancer to the industry by a lot of people because it brought on this huge wave of moe where people can just milk a lot of money on cute girls doing cute things without any real substance behind it.

It feels like the equivalent of "Thanks Obama" but "Thanks K-ON" for anime. xD

Iono, I loved it though. I like cute things every once in a while and it's really the only anime I watched in the beginning of my anime days that I haven't changed opinions on drastically.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 16:21:49
November 23 2013 16:19 GMT
#65910
Just finished Katanagatari. It was quite good.

On November 24 2013 01:02 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 00:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 23 2013 22:49 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On November 23 2013 15:02 Emnjay808 wrote:
On November 23 2013 14:03 XenOmega wrote:
THIS WEEK KILL LA KILL SO AMAZINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Any other anime similar : fighting, crazy, funny?

Ben-to


Please. Stop. That anime was so bad. >.>


maybe I'm reading into it too much and am putting words in your mouth but the way you phrased the above line suggests so.


I don't see how you could think that when I enjoy K-ON, which is probably considered one of the most cancerous anime to the industry these days given the waves of moe that now come out.

By idiots maybe.

On November 24 2013 01:10 TanKLoveR wrote:
I think I've mentioned before but I still don't quite get what "moe" is, if it stands for girls fucking around not really doing anything then I guess that's K-ON! right there but I didn't hear this term until long after I finished K-ON!

Basically, it's a feeling of affection towards a character or trait. Though most people seem to think it is a genre or a certain character design style and the cancer killing the anime industry for some reason.
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
November 23 2013 16:19 GMT
#65911
On November 23 2013 17:04 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 17:00 TanKLoveR wrote:
Pffft, you obviously never watched Claymore, the anime was awesome for the first 20 episodes or so then they started making shit up and fucked up the ending. For me it was one of the better shows of that season, I always said I would read the manga but I never did but eh I finished 15 volumes of Kare Kano in a couple of days so it shouldn't take me long to get through Claymore. So no, not shit so fail joke , let's face it IS is actually shit . I'll respond in the morning lol somehow it's 3am already D:.

Hmm well I'm sure I would have to read a lot to catch up so I'll just take my time with it. As long as it's not as slow as Titan I'm happy .

All I see here are excuses for your blatant disregard for my hard work on countering your biggest rant to date Having said that, I expect a full detailed report on the latest episode to go with the rant. I want everything found from that episode to be transcribed down and it's relevance to the plot explained in details Yes, it's very late so you'll get a pass for tonight

PS IS is a very cool anime. You're just jealous that you don't watch it due to watching crappier animes. Now if you'll excuse me, I have an IS episode to watch :D

You just know your choices are weak so you attack mine also you can't use that against me since I said it first . For someone who said he didn't like Ecchi and dumb stuff you sure watch a lot of Ecchi and dumb stuff lol and defend it :O!. I'm writing my response to it right now, you really can't talk, you've left quite a few of my replies to YOUR posts without a response D: you BigJerk ¬¬ and it took you forever to reply to THE GREAT WALL OF TEXT!. Yeah that shouldn't be a big problem, I managed to watch the episode twice yesterday so I know pretty much all the important stuff that happened lol.

Claymore is actually really good, I saw someone compare it to Titan and I guess gore wise is pretty similar.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
November 23 2013 16:31 GMT
#65912
On November 24 2013 01:14 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Don't think it's really shoujo TanKLoveR. Just a school drama anime. And frankly, I don't watch all that many shoujo/drama anime...or any anime these days since I've been busy with other stuff. Did you watch Nana? That's old and I think a friend of mine really liked it. It's...incomplete though which is why she ended up giving it a really low score to show how dissatisfied with it (the author got really ill so the probabilities of her finishing are...near zero ).

K-ON is just considered cancer to the industry by a lot of people because it brought on this huge wave of moe where people can just milk a lot of money on cute girls doing cute things without any real substance behind it.

It feels like the equivalent of "Thanks Obama" but "Thanks K-ON" for anime. xD

Iono, I loved it though. I like cute things every once in a while and it's really the only anime I watched in the beginning of my anime days that I haven't changed opinions on drastically.

Hmm well since I saw the drama part and I read the plot summary it was easy to assume there was some sort of romance between the two characters, I could obviously be wrong. Yeah a lot of people have told me to watch Nana specially since Beck is one of my favorite shows, Do you mean the manga or the anime is incomplete? would be annoying to start watching the anime and have it cut short :|. Also you have an odd concept of old, when I said old I meant 80's or 90's stuff not stuff from 6 years ago that's not really old lol.

Lol Thanks K-ON that's funny, eh I agree with you I thought it was great fun, don't think every show needs to be deep or pretend to be. I mean you don't watch Jason Statham movies for the deep story so you can analyze it.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 16:34:46
November 23 2013 16:34 GMT
#65913
Both are incomplete.

Manga was like in 2000. Not that old...kind of old.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 16:37:28
November 23 2013 16:34 GMT
#65914
The "for what it is" comment that I made seemed to spark some discussion

IS "for what it is" is simply this. IS isn't a typical anime that draws you in with a plot that makes you continue watching because you just have to know what happens next. You won't feel emotionally moved from this plot in either direction (except maybe frustration because of the male lead). "What it is" is a spectacle that delivers cute girls being cue in a sci fi setting that occasionally has mecha-like battles that are also somewhat enjoyable. It also delivers cheap harem drama.

In short its just a shallow anime that once you peel off the outer layer there is absolutely nothing underneath. But its enjoyable and fun to watch nonetheless.

Edit: Don't Lose Your Way from Kill la Kill is too good.
Never Knows Best.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
November 23 2013 16:43 GMT
#65915
At first i didnt get all the klk gonna sage anime... But i guess im going to jump on the train! Its that amazing:-)
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 23 2013 17:05 GMT
#65916
anyone watch noucome? its pretty funny (ep1,2)
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 17:22:53
November 23 2013 17:16 GMT
#65917
MJ's comment about Tatenashi imouto was mentioned first in irc and I already yelled at him, so no need to fly to Hawaii or anything.

On November 24 2013 01:43 XenOmega wrote:
At first i didnt get all the klk gonna sage anime... But i guess im going to jump on the train! Its that amazing:-)

Is it really.
On November 24 2013 01:34 Slaughter wrote:
The "for what it is" comment that I made seemed to spark some discussion

IS "for what it is" is simply this. IS isn't a typical anime that draws you in with a plot that makes you continue watching because you just have to know what happens next. You won't feel emotionally moved from this plot in either direction (except maybe frustration because of the male lead). "What it is" is a spectacle that delivers cute girls being cue in a sci fi setting that occasionally has mecha-like battles that are also somewhat enjoyable. It also delivers cheap harem drama.

In short its just a shallow anime that once you peel off the outer layer there is absolutely nothing underneath. But its enjoyable and fun to watch nonetheless.

Edit: Don't Lose Your Way from Kill la Kill is too good.

Why do you think complaints about people's take on IS are either "why do you watch this shit" or "why do you have the shittiest waifu"~
On November 23 2013 23:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Log Horizon] +
I absolutely love the latest episode, Shiroe is truly a villain in glasses

Time to watch and see what they cover up to.
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 17:37:49
November 23 2013 17:36 GMT
#65918
On November 24 2013 02:05 FFGenerations wrote:
anyone watch noucome? its pretty funny (ep1,2)


I enjoy it, the comedy works surprisingly well with me most of the time. The MC has his moments and most of the girls are pretty good.

edit: I'm still somewhat in shock from Samurai Flamenco, I mean what the fuck
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
November 23 2013 17:58 GMT
#65919
On November 19 2013 14:58 BigFan wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 04:21 TanKLoveR wrote:
Lol I got caught up watching the legend of korra, so good . Anyway let me reply, I'll make it 1 huge wall of text and we'll fix this situation. Btw it's not my fault there were more than 1 , you were very slow to reply since you were busy with lesser animes /smug look.

Btw I found a great way to reply to your walls of text :o, I just copy paste your stuff on a notepad and open another notepad next to it for my wall of text, easier than having to scroll up every freaking time :@!.

+ Show Spoiler [THE GREAT WALL OF TEXT OF WHITE ALBUM 2!] +

I'm pretty sure someone mentioned that whole thing in the first episode about Setsuna, I can't find it atm and I'm probably running low on time before the episodes comes out so I'll update later with my finding . I'll have to rewatch episode 1 lol, gonna be pissed if they didn't say it in that episode :@!!.

You know I don't think her life is so bad, she has a wonderful family, yeah her father has a stick up hir ass but overall he's not bad, he's not raping her or anything lol and no one in her family is being abused or anything. So yeah she couldn't really ask for a better family, sure her friends from middle school sucked but not much she can do about that, people will disappoint you sometimes you just have to suck it up. If that's the most tragic thing that has happened to her then she's kind of a wimp . I think her fake personality is getting to her more than she would like to admit, I think part of the reason she's such a jealous person is because while she likes Haruki for treating her differently I think she likes the attention and can't understand why anyone would DARE like someone else instead of her. That might be why she's a tad unstable when seeing/hearing things about Touma and Haruki. Pure speculation but it might be the case that she is not nutty just a bit too "diva".

Here's a "transcript" of what I told you about enemy/best friend thing.
Touma: Just so we're clear, I'm doing this for Ogiso. Your efforts were in vain.
Haruki: But didn't you say you couldn't be friends with her?.
Touma: Not just friends, no. She can only ever be my sworn enemy or the best friend I'll ever have.

So yeah there you go . I don't remember EVERY line, I remember quite a few lol but I also have the episodes on my computer in case I need to confirm something quickly like I just did.

How can the song be about Setsuna to Haruki? HUH!? Haruki wrote the song, Setsuna was obviously just reading what was on paper I doubt she just said her own interpretation of the lyrics which apply to her relationship with Haruki O.o. That sounds odd. I don't really see why she would do that or why you thought that could be the case. I mean Touma was pretty much alone in her class, no one spoke to her, she just sat there sleeping on her desk and little did he know there was no one living with her either and he obviously like her I think. Even if it's an exaggeration in the lyrics of his feelings for Touma, is not a big stretch to imagine him being in love with Touma at this point.

Nothing wrong with being crazy about someone, at all. She's just a bit too jealous for my taste lol, it makes her look irrational sometimes like expecting them to not spend any time together. You know what she reminds me of? I had this friend I met playing WoW a few years ago, we raided a lot, pvp'd a lot and shit, we were in the same guild, then this new recruit came in, we both became friends with this person. Later we found out the person was a girl it didn't make much of a difference really, but they started to get close and then they became a couple, well after that the guy started to hate me and didn't tell me. I would go do something with the girl and she tell me the guy would get angry at her later :| because he wasn't around to chaperone lol. Crazy jealous person, didn't speak to him again. Turns out his previous gf cheated on him while she was away at college, so of course that meant me and this girl were going to have WoW-sex while he wasn't looking lol. That's what Setsuna comes off as, just paranoid that EVERYONE will suck and she will be disappointed. If you really expect everyone to fuck you over then it shouldn't surprise you when it happens and it shouldn't really hurt you but she seems to be like the guy I mentioned. Just jealous, over protective to the point of irrationality. I've met a lot of crazy jealous people, always disliked them :| I'm not that kind of person.

Maybe she's a bit like the guy and a bit like the dude from Suzuka, who did anything only to make the other person like them more. She doesn't seem to be as one dimensional since I can see there is more to her, may be a whole lot of crazy but we won't know until after the performance. It's not that I want her to make a huge scene but I think it's something that will eventually happen, as I mentioned earlier I think her fake persona sort of got to her a little bit and she might not react well to people rejecting her despite her liking Haruki for simple being different with her. Obviously she has quite a bit of self control, I wished that the person who isn't bothered was the real her as opposed to her just not freaking out because people might think she's over doing it and not like her. She obviously doesn't want to break up the band before the performance obviously.

This is a fucking long wall of text

NEVER I SHALL HATE TAIGA FOREVER! THE LEGION OF AMI LOVERS SHALL PREVAIL!. I mean there's only like 2 of you Taiga fan boys .
Yeah I don't think it should take him 3 years to write ONE song, I think to be a good writer and lyricist you need to practice a lot and write several songs, not work on the same 20 or so plus lines of text for 3 years so it made sense that the date was when he wrote THAT particular song. I think she was just trying to come off as easy going and just fun, I don't think she's that easy going, if she was more honest it would be better. She has an "Ami" vibe to her lol before she was honest with herself and knew who she wanted/had to be to be happy and not just this model cunt lol. You remember Ami, Setsuna doesn't remind you of her at all? She's not so outwardly mean and brutal but maybe.

Well I don't think Haruki would be mean if he confessed to one girl and the other one happens to be around, does it all have to be behind closed doors? I mean like you said nothing wrong with being crazy about another person, really what would you care about some other girl who was around if you want to tell a girl you love her? You feel how you feel, nothing else to it and I don't think you would have to be cruel to do so. Maybe he just got there before Setsuna and then Setsuna sees them hugging and stuff, I mean she's already pissed they spend time together and now they show affection towards each other in a hug or more? she would be pretty depressed seeing that. She could also be sad that Touma is leaving, that's true but we won't know for now . Let's wait and see what this scene means, I wonder which one of us will be right :O!. What do you mean it looked bad? wtf gtfo, KIMI NOZO TIME FOR YOU, NAO!.

Yeah Touma is just not very fond of getting close to people because of what happened with her mom, which is a bit of an exaggeration imo to think anyone would just abandon you mommy style. She definitely takes time to warm up to people, which was pretty easy with Haruki hmm I wonder why? . Lizuka is just not used to girls he can't easily approach lol, he's a fail playa lol. Idk why but I always got the impression they would expand this story beyond the bounderies of high school, but maybe they won't, we only have so many episodes and it has taken 6 episodes for us to see the performance, so I guess now we have left the later half of the show. Should be pretty interesting. I hope she stays though, if not for being with Haruki, to be with everyone in general. Maybe she doesn't feel the urge to be with her mom as much any more, though I would understand why she would since her mom means a lot to her like she mentioned in the last episode. I honestly don't know how Touma's question wasn't the focus of our entire first conversation lol, we were too busy going OMG LOOK HOW JEALOUS SETSUNA LOOKS AND HOW SHE OVER REACTS TO THEM BEING TOGETHER :O!.

I WANT TO SEE THE PRETTY FIREWORKS ALREADY, THERE ISN'T ENOUGH DRAMA RIGHT NOW . There is but it's mostly over reactions to stupid crap that doesn't seem to matter THAT much, sure by Haruki spending time with Touma it means their relationship grows, but I mean come on I want to see a cat fight or at least Haruki thinking who to pick. Taking TOO LONG!.

I know what you mean, I was also focused on her reaction but when I was typing that I literally paid no attention to that and only focused on what she was reading, I was just looping through that whole scene first reading the lyrics, then putting all together with their reactions to what was being said. As I said earlier Touma was pretty isolated in her class room with Haruki since everyone was more or less afraid of her. He could have a crush on her after her spending months there sitting next to him after transfering from the music class, she IS quite pretty. Also remember in the second episode when Haruki was looking for the mysterious pianist, he went to his class room to get his bag while Lizuka went to the locker to get his shoes, he bumps into Touma and he says the following:
Sorry.
Hey wait a second
Hold it!.
You seem to be ignoring me lately.
Did I do something wrong? I'm sorry if I hurt you without realizing it.
So please tell me what I did wrong. I won't know if you don't tell me.
Please don't be mad at me. We sit next to each other in class, after all.
So I think his persistence shows that A) They talked at some point before? since he's saying she's ignoring him now B) He doesn't want her to be mad at him and wants to fix whatever he did, so maybe at this point he had the crush? He did write the song already by this point. In a later they show her face and she didn't look mad or anything so I don't know what to think exactly lol. Btw I did watch the episode for this part , I was going to wing it but I didn't want to have to write this later AGAIN just to confirm what was said. I think it's very possible the song is about her, otherwise Setsuna is just mad that they worked on a song together and you know they bring her into it as well they didn't exclude her so she's just being jealous over nothing T_T.

You know what that part reminds me of? Remember when Haruki was writing down the schedule and he crossed the LMA off the list and was going to throw away the piece of paper? Later Touma picks it up and stuff. Then you know he finds Setsuna is a great singer and is all OMG I CAN TOTALLY DO THE PERFORMANCE WITH THIS SINGER, which is something Touma mentions to Setsuna later on that he was about to give up on the LMA until he heard her sing. Maybe that's why she was sort of annoyed at Haruki and ignored him outside the class room? because he didn't try to recruit her first and she had a crush on him? Big stretch again here, but want to know your opinion.

Almost done with my wall of text <3 yay. The raw just came out btw :O, the episode should be coming out in the next 30 minutes to an hour SPAM DAT F5 button on Nyaa :D.

You seem to think I'm trying to make Haruki look like a bad guy when that isn't the case at all lol, you have to remember this guy is a rookie with girls. Remember the phone conversation? Yeah. So maybe it's more about him being nervous/not ready for the whole school to think he's in a relationship with the most popular girl there is and the "prettiest one" as well. Or maybe he just likes Touma more and doesn't want people to think he likes someone else, both scenarions seem plausible to me. Yeah it just seems dumb to apologize over nothing really, it was just her being a bit dramatic. Touma WAS sick and she really shouldn't have gone there since she could get sick and not be able to participate in the performance. That whole part just seems like overdramatization from the part of the writers to me, I don't see why Haruki had to be so "Knight in shining armor" at that point, grabbing her arm, pulling her close like that and then stealing her away lol.

I don't know, I think if he had heard it he would have had some sort of reaction on his face, instead it seemed like he didn't hear her and went back to playing guitar like it was nothing because he didn't hear anything. I think her asking the question just signifies her feeling that Haruki is very dependable and responsible so she could do A LOT worse than to trust him and maybe develop even more feelings for him. I think she was over the moon with Haruki taking care of her, she would not leave his side and pretended it was just to listen to his guitar playing lol, I thought that was pretty cute of her . Obviously Setsuna doesn't REALLY mean it that way lol she's not that coniving but it would be interesting . That was a huge stretch mostly for lols I doubt that's why she wants that, it's just to be close friends and what not. Yeah obviously you need different characters, it's fine lol no problem with them being sort of polar opposites. It makes Touma look a lot better when you compare her to someone like Setsuna lol.

Lol that's not my intention, she's obviously jealous of them spending time together. Just a bit silly she invited her and didn't have a back up plan or something lol for when after they spend time together to pull Haruki more towards her. I guess being insecure was her default plan lol. She would be quite fucked up if she assumes Haruki would lie to her to that degree, I mean from Haruki's perspective he wouldn't be doing anything wrong by dating Touma because I think he's sort of oblivious to Setsuna's feelings. It would only be a problem if he's trying to keep it a secret to keep the band together and he knew how Setsuna felt about him, but like you said he's the nice guy so Setsuna should know that since she's the one WHO LIKES HIM lol.

I think she would have had a better chance of spending time with Haruki outside the band, I mean there is no reason why she couldn't approach him in the school lol. But she wanted to help Haruki since he seemed so fired up about the band.


Finally done, I have a feeling I forgot something but I can't remember, that was a lot of freaking typing, reading and rereading . So if I remember after watching the new episode I'll update it, I also have to remember to take notes after I finish watching it lol . Largest wall of text I've written so far, I think. fuck.

EPISODE IS OUT!! DOWNLOADING YAY! BTW I couldn't add your quote, I hit the limit of characters per post. Have fun reading all that :D.

DO YOU EVEN HAVE TO ASK, FUCKING WA2 OF COURSE, PFFT FAIL BIGFAN.

Lame way of replying Just hit reply and keep the post open in firefox then open up notepad and put it towards the bottom of your screen then you can look up to read, down to type etc... No need to scroll until you finish the part you were reading. I suggest something similar to this but using 2 firefox browsers instead lol.

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ya, it's ok. Just report your findings later, I can wait lol. Well, maybe they did but they probably used the train sound to cover it up so it's there

well, I never said her life was horrible, just that it was rough when it came to friends and she seems to have strict parents, specifically the father. cmon, having no friends is a horrible experience and is probably scarring if you think about it all the time especially when it's over something so ... unworthy. Maybe it is but who knows. Well, she was planning to drop out of the beauty contest at the beginning of the first episode so maybe she doesn't like as much as we think or maybe she's just trying to create a scene for herself? speculation again. I think you're overthinking the dare part imo. Maybe she's a diva, maybe not, speculation so far as well lol.

I KNEW IT! ADDICT! The fact that you were able to remember them specifically like that when you've been watching other anime and busy with work means you've been watching those episodes A LOT! WA2 addiction! :@ lol. nope, not what I meant. I meant Haruki wrote the song for her, not Touma. We do hear that he admired her in the latest episode which is more than he said about Touma(want to be friends with that person lol). Ya, some of the lyrics don't fit with Setsuna in comparison to Touma but I was merely presenting another viewpoint on the song.

Then please, do me a favour and don't watch the anime ef XD You would go over the top due to the jealousy in that lol. Love can lead to irritational actions at time, not that they are right but it's not surprising to me at least. ouch, sad story and lol at the end. Past experiences shape our perception of everything. His bad experience meant that he was more careful with any girlfriends after his ex. Well, it's quite possible she gets jealous and I never disagreed on that part with you. Overprotective? we haven't seen that yet though. I mean when was she overprotective so far?

Well, the latest episode was released and well, Setsuna made her move lol. I agree, I don't think she wanted to break up the band before the performance either. YOU MAY BE RIGHT BUT IT'S ABOUT QUALITY NOT QUANTITY! WE TAIGA FANBOYS WILL RULE THE TLADT COME ONE DAY AND YOU SHALL BOW BEFORE OUR MIGHT!

yes, I agreed on the time to write the song. 3 years would be way too much for that period of time. Maybe t was mostly thoughts and then he wrote it this last year. Who knows if she's more easy going or not, speculation! Ya, now that I think about it, she does have an Ami vite lol. She's not mean or brutal but the fake personality is shining through so maybe like Ami, her true personality will shine out someday.

ya true true. If you confes to someone, doesn't mean you're going to sit there and not do it because of some other person. Maybe he got there before then she sees them, also valid. Who knows. Best to wait to see the episode before we speculate further although I think we should make a list of options then decide which we think is most likely. Kimi Nozo still looks stressed or w/e(resolution is terrible) so not watching anytime soon

cmon, SPECULATION! You're assuming that she warmed up faster with Haruki. I say it was due to him playing the guitar so she 'got' to know him that much better indirectly. What did I tell ya? I think they'll stick to HS or till beginning of college at best. I don't see them going further unless they do an Afterstory like Clannad or something. Maybe if it's popular enough? I think if she stays, it'll only be for Haruki and possibly Setsuna depending on how the story progressed. I doubt she cares about anyone else. I think we both forget about it since it was thrown in there and then removed so fast. I mean Touma mentioned it then went back to sleep before Haruki could answer it >.> Maybe it shows there is some interest?

You should be happy then. We got some development and drama in that last episode. Don't forget about them on stage when both Setsuna and Touma faced each other's eyes and looked like they had an internal fight going on Well, maybe exaggeration a bit lol but neither was smiling at that point. They looked serious. Well, we don't know what their relationship is like before the first episode. I feel like there might be some background there since I do recall him saying that but I'm not sure what it is. He could've been just trying to be friendly since she sits by him, no indication that it was a crush or anything of that sort. Maybe the song is about her, who knows.

Very big stretch. If she was that annoyed, she could've easily not joined LMA to 'strike back' at him for doing that. When I Watched it, I don't recall seeing that part as the reason why she ignored him. From what I recall, it was like, she's my neighbour in class yet doesn't talk much to me. Maybe I did something wrong so I should apologize or at least ask. Not, oh I recurited Setsuna first over her, she must be pissed now lol.

nah, not really. You obviously just hate his gut I think he just lacks experience with girls and it's possible that he wasn't paying much attention to all that stuff which is why he told her on the phone that he'll be there for her until she tells him that he can leave. He saw it as friends, not lovers. I think he's just not comfortable with everyone thinking he's in a relationship when he's not. Yep, dramatic and overdramatization but I think that was intentional since he could've as easily told her when they were in the class Or outside of the class. Maybe he thought taking her to Touma's place to see her being ok would help since she wasn't able to sing the previous day and seeing is believeing for her.

ya, he didn't hear it. I wrote he did but tbh I don't think he did. That or he's acting like he didn't lol. Ya, true. She wouldn't leave his side even when she was sick, cute and does show that side of her. Remember, she said she's never been in love with someone before in the latest episode. Poor Setsuna, still hated by TanKLoveR Well, maybe she didn't think Touma would be able to pull Haruki to her side or maybe she thought that she would be able to handle it. Who knows if either of these are even right lol. Ya, I doubt he wouldn't tell her for the sake of the band. He seems to be quite the moral person and I guess innocent enough since he doesn't consider some of his more bizzare actions such as dragging Setsuna to Touma's place as anything odd to do especially considering the gender difference and such. hmm true but maybe there was a reason she wasn't approaching him earlier?

Not as big as your rant but then you had a lot of one-liners like convos and lots of stuff we agreed on. Hopefully it doesn't take you an hour to write a response lol


I like my notepad method better, I don't see how opening 2 browsers is any better O.o lol. NOTEPAD FOREVER!.

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You complain a lot about about me taking a while to respond but I've seen several of my awesome responses being ignored D: I feel as if I should ignore this one ¬¬ lol.

Eh her life is fine, she's just a little spoiled because her parents treat her like a princess or something lol. Her friends sucked by I think we've all had shitty friends, you get over it. I think they are making it seem worse than it really is with the dad and the friends, I have a hard time believing someone can be that emotionally scarred because of either one lol, I mean her father isn't a dick he's just overprotective nothing "wrong" with that. She should just grow up and send those girls to go to hell for being mean over something so dumb like you said lol. Eh I think she is a bit divaish, I wouldn't be surprised at all THOUGH now with the new findings is obvious that she was very forward from the beginning and there was a bit of a competition with Touma so I guess it's "normal" she would get pissy at Touma but not really say anything. Am I the only one who looking back thinks is kind of hmm idk "mean" that they both kept quiet about their little conversation at the burger place? lol. I mean the discussion they had after toothbrush gate was obviously about THAT and Touma forgot to mention that was probably why she was so jealous lol.

Not an addict, dedicated fan . I'm actually pretty terrible with names lol, I been watching a few different current animes at the same time as WA2 but WA2's names are the only ones I always remember lol to the detriment of all the other shows . I made a post last week after the episode saying about the possible name of the song which you ignored btw ¬¬, also made a post talking about that money shot of Setsuna's ass right before she confesses lol IGNORED AS WELL D:. Anyway, the song, I thought that third song that appeared in the credits was the name of our secret song but obviously it wasn't was the name of the song that those girl sang at the beginning so BOO. I'm curious about the name of the song, I'm still quite positive it's about Touma and that may have helped give Setsuna a push and confess to Haruki. Also the admiring part was wrong in the horrible subs :|, he actually said something else about Setsuna, let me type it lol:

Haruki: There was this impossibly distant flower I'd always wanted to get to know, yet she came to me of her own accord.

Haruki: Then there was the girl I've admired and wanted to be friends with for so long. She and I understand each other at last, We've become real friends.

Touma: So she's a flower and I'm just a girl?

I think what he said about Touma was just as flattering if not more, I knew it made no sense he said he admired Setsuna, I mean I can't think of a single reason why you would admire a pretty girl who seems to be devoid of any significant personality traits, I might be kind of mean lol but she does seem kind of hollow in that regard. The way he would stare at Touma in previous episodes specially when they all got together at her house for practice and Lizuka was all like O.o looking at him while he looked at her was pretty telling. These are the UTW subs btw which I've told you are better, so next episode I'm going to wait to pass judgement on any big scenes until I watch the UTW subs. Yeah I get you were presenting a different point of view but I don't think it makes much sense, but we'll see heck for all we know the song IS about Setsuna though I would be shocked if it was.

I've actually watched ef a LONG time ago but it was only a few episodes, I remember it being confusing lol. The first episode was really odd then the next one continued being odd and back then I didn't continue but I do hear is excellent so I'll probably watch it someday. Yeah jealous people suck, that's not news haha. Before I thought Setsuna was just keeping the whole thing to herself and she was the only one who liked Haruki (like Touma didn't know Setsuna liked Haruki, not us not knowing, that was obvious for US), so I thought like hey this girl is freaking out and this whole thing seems to be totally one sided. Yeah man that whole thing sucked, the girl ended up being a CRAZY bitch who cut her wrists a couple of times because they had a big fight O.o, so I'm glad I don't have anything to do with either any more lol. Is not that I don't feel bad but she was a terrible friend and only came to me to complain about him lol <.<. I've never behaved like that, I mean I give people freedom if they betray my trust then GGNORE and I get another girl, ezpz. I think she was a bit overprotective when she lashed out after toothbrush gate, I mean why is it her problem if Haruki stayed over at a FRIEND'S house, I don't think she would have done that had she not stated her feelings for Haruki to Touma and she assumed it was an all out brawl for Haruki lol.

Yeah Setsuna certainly did, really curious about what happens now :O!. THAT'S A TERRIBLE EXCUSE, OH THERE'S ONLY A FEW OF US SO WE'RE BETTER, FUCK THAT NUH UH, THERE'S LESS OF YOU BECAUSE AMI IS BEST GIRL OBVIOUSLY!.

You know I been thinking and it's kind of silly to assume there is only 1 song written in that whole book lol, I mean sure it's dated october 2007 which is the previous month BUT. He coule easily have a bunch of songs written there (I would be fucking embarrassed if someone gave a book with all my songs to a girl I like lol, specially if I'm not great at it), he probably just had a few different version of the song as well and what not there but I think he probably just wrote it recently after practicing a lot. Yeah Ami was just kind of mean at first, I guess that's how people acted in her modeling world and so she had to do the same as to not be the prey D:. I hope we see Setsuna's real personality once AND that it is a nice one otherwise GGNORE Setsuna I'm gonna go have Beethoven babies with Touma bai bai.

I'm so fucking curious about that train scene grrr GIVE ME MAH TRAIN ALREADY! (Also while we're here, is there any other scene of that first episode that we're "missing"? can't remember if there is). Will be very interesting to see how that whole scene plays out since Setsuna was very forward with her feelings and if Haruki confesses to Touma that would be quite brutal for poor Setsuna but oh well like I said if he really likes Touma that much then Setsuna will be the last thing on his mind. Does it really look bad everywhere you look? I saw it on gogoanime and it looked fine to me O.o. I think you just don't want to watch it lol.

I like how you say SPECULATION!! like a lawyer would say OBJECTION YOUR HONOR!!. Yeah obviously all that guitar playing at her house helped a lot, specially when she was being all cute while she was sick lol. Yeah it seems like it's going to be HS from here till the end, to be honest I thought it would go beyond that (for this season, we might get a 2nd one, let's see how it ends first ) because they showed them in not school clothing and idk they seemed to be "older" in those flashbacks at least a couple of them gave me that impression. Now with Setsuna being so clingy about going to university with Haruki I have hope we might see something like that lol but who knows. Yeah indeed she would probably just stay for Haruki, I'm honestly annoyed with thinking about the fucking train scene and whether or not she's leaving with her mom like you said (it seems to be the right line of thought but still, let's wait to see what happens with that, for all we know she's leaving because she didn't want to see Haruki with Setsuna). She's obviously interested, but she's not as bold as Setsuna, Touma should get herself a pair of balls too , I mean if I was her I would have kissed whoever it was, sick and all since they were so nice taking care of me and all. Also you have to take advantage of being all fragile so they would feel bad about rejecting you lol. She's just kind of insecure and since she said she's never been in love I guess she's not first step kind of girl.

Yeah of course I was happy, someone fucking kissed idk so much about drama but definitely action. I think drama will come in this next episode. Yeah I agree on the staring contest thing haha they were like HE'S MINE BITCH, NO FUCK YOU HE'S MINE :@!. I agree neither looked particularly happy lol (lol my cat won't let me type she keeps stealing my arm so I pet her D: and meows when I use my hand to type). Yeah that's exactly my point, we don't know what was going on between the two beforehand which is why I was like hmm maybe that was it? because he seemed upset that she seemed upset by him. I guess she talked to him previously and now she was giving him the silence treatment but when they showed her face later in episode 2? she didn't look mad. All we know is that she played with him and his guitar and she knew it was him. Yeah you could be right as well, there are 2 things that really bother me about this show and this is one of them lol. Also I never said HE thought that, but she knew that he gave up on the band (wrinkled paper on his desk which she read), then he heard Setsuna sing and got all fired up about trying to make the band work. When you're in love with someone or have a crush you see anything they do as a "They like or oh wait they don't like me" type of behavior lol, I'm just saying she might have felt a little rejected because he didn't ask her first ( go through that whole let's find the secret pianist mission ) since she's been playing with him for a while. That is all I'm saying.

Lol It's just frustrating, he has 2 hot girls in front of him who spend a ridiculous amount of time with him and he still seems to be BLIND to the fact that no one spends so much time with someone else unless they like that person be it friend or more than friends AND he doesn't make a move on either one EVER!. I mean Setsuna had to throw herself at him for him to get a fucking clue and even then he was in a state of shock lol fail Haruki. Yeah he's obviously inexperienced. Yeah obviously saw it as friends Setsuna was the only one who had lovers in mind lol, if Haruki doesn't "wake up" during this next episode I'm going to start doubting he has balls lol. Yeah I know he's not comfortable with that, which is what makes me think he likes Touma better I mean there are FAR WORSE things than people thinking you're in a relationship with the school's hottest/most popular girl lol but he's just THAT nice doesn't want any misunderstandings either because of Touma or just in general. Yeah was obviously intentional, maybe that's why he took her lol but still a little silly he just stole her like that lol. I just keep remembering the classmate's reaction to them calling each other by their first name and then like :O! OMG WHERE IS HE TAKING SETSUNA!?.

I don't see why he would act like he didn't hear it, I mean if a girl I mildly like asks me that I would be like why do you want to know or something along those lines and try to find out if she likes me :o. Yeah I liked sick Touma, she's a lot nicer and cuter . I don't hate Setsuna god, I'm just being careful because I get a fakey attitude from her and I want to see whether or not the real Setsuna is a decent human being first before I go all OMG TAIGA IS THE BEST! like you do :p lol. I think she just assumed that Touma wouldn't make a move since she seemed so shaky in that conversation they had about their feelings, I could see that being the reason. I don't think she would throw Haruki to the lions without worrying over it, so she must think Touma is kind of not the type to make a move while she's not looking? even though she spent quite a bit of time freaking out over them spending time together lol. Bah who knows, she just ask her to join because Haruki wanted her there and she wants to please Haruki GG. Yeah he's very nice and innocent when it comes to relationships, so I guess since he didn't think he was doing anything bad he just did it anyway like that Setsuna stealing thing lol. Yeah I guess we don't know some of these details, who knows why she didn't approach him sooner, I mean she ended up making the first move and she said she expected something different so maybe she thought by getting close to him casually through joining the band would make Haruki confess to her? That could be it. We'll see.


Didn't take me too long to reply to all of that since I only had to go back to watch 1 tiny part of 1 episodes as opposed to quite a few parts lol. Decent enough wall of text . I also tried to hurry up and finish it before A) The episode airs and B) I starve since I got up late and didn't eat breakfast so I made myself finish this before eating lunch lol <.< HUNGRY!.

Btw I said there were 2 things that bothered me, here's the second one + Show Spoiler +
What do you think about Haruki's lack of development when it comes to his family life? Does he have a family? where is it? why isn't he close to them? Remember when he was giving Touma advice on how to go about her mom while she was sick and he said something like "Yeah I'm not exactly to be giving advice about this" I think he meant his family is kind of fucked up so he doesn't really have much experience fixing that type of relationship?.


Now to get ready for the next episode, GIMME DRAMMA RIGHT NAO WHITE ALBUM 2!! I WANTS IT! AND I ALSO WANT FOOD! /shoves face with food.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
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Last Edited: 2013-11-23 18:11:25
November 23 2013 18:11 GMT
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I figured that they'd drop a whole episode just for this for Log Horizon, but meh this pacing annoys me.

Now to troll myself with monogatari.
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