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BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
May 02 2010 01:59 GMT
#5661
On May 02 2010 08:25 ZoW wrote:
she just wanted some tofu


Awwwwww

Damn angel beats is so good lol
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 02:25:49
May 02 2010 02:24 GMT
#5662
Holy shit wow. This season is seriously shaping up to be one of the best in recent memory. Saraiya Goyou continues to impress with excellent animation and solid character development, while keeping the pacing fine as usual.

Yojouhan Shinwa Taikei looks like it's going to be one of the best shows of the season with a quick yet solid narrative pace while maintaining character development and an interesting plot. It's also very well animated, not on par with Saraiya Goyou, but there's always something moving, always something going on in any shot, which impresses, though that's not where my interest in the show lies. The premise is akin to Endless Eight, but it just pulls it off much better. The characters actually develop really well in each rendition, and the renditions are different enough such that it's interesting finding the differences in each version. Then again, I've only watched two episodes of it, so we'll see.

Unfortunately Durarara from the Fall is slowing down and its getting a bit lazy. I see a lot more still frames and shots that don't do anything - not even build drama. It's just a bit disappointing in that regard, but the story is moving ahead rather quickly.

On the other hand, Angel Beats looks to be picking up plot wise. I still have serious issues with how it mixes in comedy when the goddamn scene is supposed to be drama based! For God's sake, I'm so pissed that while we're trying to empathize with Tenshi's plight during the exams, we get scenes of people flying in rocket chairs 4 scenes in a row! Combine that with Yuri screaming twice in a row, which is so over the top that it's unbelievable, and anything building up to that point was just lost in my mind. However, I'm glad that everything after that completely tugged at the heartstrings, and that was really overpowering. So overpowering in fact, that I'm willing to forgive the first half of the episode. All we need is less fail comedy...

I also just realized that I'm actually devoting a lot of time to Angel Beats rants Kind of funny, but whatever.

As for the rest of the shows in the Spring season, I'm less than impressed. Rainbow continues to be over the top, but it's so intense and the character development is done really well. However, it's still done well. The big problem that I can see is that the primary reason I'm still drawn to the show is because of its fast pace. If that slows down, I don't think I'll be as interested in it...

I've stopped watching Arakawa and Maid-Sama, partly because everything else this season overpowers it, but more importantly because everything I've seen from those two shows I've seen done before. I'm only maintaining a passing interest in those shows from what I hear in discussions, but I honestly can't justify wasting my time with those shows anymore.

As for Night Raid, I've stopped watching it for now because of losing interest, but if someone can convince me to watch it again I'll pick it up.

Every other show that isn't mentioned, I'm not interested in it for various reasons.

You know, it's actually very interesting to see how I've changed from:

Well, I suppose it'll all come down to actually watching the Spring season then. Unfortunately the only one that just jumps out at me this season is Angel Beats, as compared to multiple ones for previous seasons :/. Well, I await the new season!

and
The Spring season is slowly dying out for me... Shows that had potential are failing miserably. I'll have to watch Angel Beats 2 to see if this season can be saved... While praying for Manglobe to bring this season back from the brink.


to this post.

Edit: Wow I never realized what a wall of text I posted until I clicked 'post' and I even resisted the urge to talk more
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
May 02 2010 02:28 GMT
#5663
People are fine with Bakemonogatari using comedy to drive story on, but not Angel Beats? Odd standards here.
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
May 02 2010 02:48 GMT
#5664
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 02 2010 03:32 GMT
#5665
Working!! maybe?
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
May 02 2010 04:24 GMT
#5666
On May 02 2010 11:28 Ecael wrote:
People are fine with Bakemonogatari using comedy to drive story on, but not Angel Beats? Odd standards here.

Different me I've definitely become less superficial since summertime.

But aside from that, the comedy was employed in different situations in both animes. In Bakemonogatari, it was far more integrated into the story. It was definitely very natural and it was well integrated into the plot. With Angel Beats, the comedy completely interrupts the drama that's supposed to be going on. I have no problem with comedy as a part of a series like you see in something like Saraiya Goyou. I do have a problem with comedy when it's exaggerated and conflicts with the rest of the show.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
May 02 2010 04:26 GMT
#5667
On May 02 2010 13:24 Mystlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 11:28 Ecael wrote:
People are fine with Bakemonogatari using comedy to drive story on, but not Angel Beats? Odd standards here.

Different me I've definitely become less superficial since summertime.

But aside from that, the comedy was employed in different situations in both animes. In Bakemonogatari, it was far more integrated into the story. It was definitely very natural and it was well integrated into the plot. With Angel Beats, the comedy completely interrupts the drama that's supposed to be going on. I have no problem with comedy as a part of a series like you see in something like Saraiya Goyou. I do have a problem with comedy when it's exaggerated and conflicts with the rest of the show.

Can't say I found that in bake the humor was particularly integrated into the story, the dramatic moment and the thought provoking times simply take backseat to the humor there. AB tries to more or less balance the two without playing one as a less apparent factor. Personally, I don't have an issue with this approach at all. If anything, it is more or less a norm level for visual novel esque things.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
May 02 2010 05:03 GMT
#5668
On May 02 2010 13:26 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 13:24 Mystlord wrote:
On May 02 2010 11:28 Ecael wrote:
People are fine with Bakemonogatari using comedy to drive story on, but not Angel Beats? Odd standards here.

Different me I've definitely become less superficial since summertime.

But aside from that, the comedy was employed in different situations in both animes. In Bakemonogatari, it was far more integrated into the story. It was definitely very natural and it was well integrated into the plot. With Angel Beats, the comedy completely interrupts the drama that's supposed to be going on. I have no problem with comedy as a part of a series like you see in something like Saraiya Goyou. I do have a problem with comedy when it's exaggerated and conflicts with the rest of the show.

Can't say I found that in bake the humor was particularly integrated into the story, the dramatic moment and the thought provoking times simply take backseat to the humor there. AB tries to more or less balance the two without playing one as a less apparent factor. Personally, I don't have an issue with this approach at all. If anything, it is more or less a norm level for visual novel esque things.

I have a bad habit of just using a word that isn't what I want to say and using it anyway When I watched Bake, the comedy and the other elements were isolated from each other. They didn't mix, and it was definitely appropriate considering the situation. Plot-wise you can't really integrate comedy in unless that's essentially your goal, but situation-wise Bakemonogatari nailed the timing of their comedy. Angel Beats doesn't do it well at all.

It's actually kind of funny because with each new episode of Bake that I'm seeing, I'm starting to dislike it more and more :<
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
May 02 2010 05:23 GMT
#5669
On May 02 2010 10:59 BrTarolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 08:25 ZoW wrote:
she just wanted some tofu


Awwwwww

Damn angel beats is so good lol

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T_T
8==========))
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 05:58:36
May 02 2010 05:57 GMT
#5670
On May 02 2010 11:24 Mystlord wrote:
I also just realized that I'm actually devoting a lot of time to Angel Beats rants Kind of funny, but whatever.


I realized the same I actually came in this thread to read your newest rant. It's part of the show now.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 02 2010 06:00 GMT
#5671
Probably a big factor differentiating Bake comedy and AB comedy is that much of the comedy in Bake is based on dialogue (ie. Gahara's relentless intellect barrage) and making fun of cliche and such, whereas AB comedy is forced humor via stereotypical characters and crazy situations.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
May 02 2010 06:01 GMT
#5672


+ Show Spoiler [Angel Bullies] +
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the courage to be a lazy bum
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 06:23:16
May 02 2010 06:21 GMT
#5673
On May 02 2010 15:00 Southlight wrote:
Probably a big factor differentiating Bake comedy and AB comedy is that much of the comedy in Bake is based on dialogue (ie. Gahara's relentless intellect barrage) and making fun of cliche and such, whereas AB comedy is forced humor via stereotypical characters and crazy situations.

In that case, AB is infinitely better for everyone using subtitles. Gahara's wits just don't translate over to English accurately enough, the original Japanese was something to appreciate because it was a beautiful display of her character and capabilities, subs aren't. Well, you made the point before too, but other than Gahara (and to an extent Hachikuji the meta character), Nishio Ishin does happily abuse the normal stereotypes. Yeah Nadeko's school swimwear in shrine is a novelty but seriously, without written text in the original language (or awesome translators) the distinction of AB and Bake's comedy is largely lost.

Well, since Mystlord says he isn't as big a fan of Bake now as he was then, I think my point is done.

EDIT - Actually, speaking of Bake, I should unwrap my vol 5 bd at some point to watch the episode of awesome.

kyzers0ze, avoid those kinds of posts. We don't want this turning into 4chan.
Tenryu
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States565 Posts
May 02 2010 06:21 GMT
#5674
Ah man just started to watch Rainbow, fuckin amazing. Been so long since ive a seen a serious real anime! Didnt hear anything about until Mystlord started to talk about it a couple posts ago. Thanks yo
http://myanimelist.net/profile/Understar
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
May 02 2010 06:36 GMT
#5675
Forgot if this came up in a Southlight pm conversation yet, but apparently ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai is getting an anime adaptation. Semi tempted to watch just because Hanazawa Kana looks like she'll be in it (as kuroneko? wtf I'd almost cry miscast)...maybe if I really need a dose of romantic comedy when it shows I guess.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 07:11:41
May 02 2010 06:43 GMT
#5676
Oh I didn't realize the Angel Beats fans had already mobilized behind Tenshi... Let's see...

Well I'll use this opportunity to demonstrate how a typical episode of Angel Beats! works in terms of comedy vs drama in PICTURE form!

+ Show Spoiler [For Common Courtesy...] +

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Hai guys. I'm Yuri and it's time to come up with a plan to fight against Tenshi God!

TK during the plan making:
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Result of the plan:
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BUT WAIT! WHAT'S GOING ON WHILE SHE'S CRYING??
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BUT WAIT WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT AFTER???
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How does the episode end???
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My reaction... What?:
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PS - Woohoo Haruhi Novel 10 coming out eventually, and Chapter 1 sneak preview already scanned! Can't wait to see it translated :3
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 06:47:48
May 02 2010 06:45 GMT
#5677
You had me scared for a second, but no, it isn't out yet. That's just the sneak preview from Sneakers.

Seriously, if it was really out and I missed ordering it and shipping it with some of the new bungaku shoujo books I would've used international express options to whisk it right here. Or take a day off work and pray Kinokuniya is cool and carries it day one.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
May 02 2010 07:11 GMT
#5678
Oh yeah I'm sorry 75-80% complete is still pretty damn good though ^_^
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
May 02 2010 07:41 GMT
#5679
I'd say it was pretty good, except for how I already waited for forever and a half for it. I got vol 9 at normal release time at a local Kinokuniya and saw the signs for vol 10 in a few months...then I went to kinokuniya again when they were supposed to carry it and got greeted by the indefinite postponement sign. TT

Finally watched vol 5 bake, episode 12 was so awesome. Probably my favorite scene in the whole novel (bake only, anyway, once we count in kizu and nise it gets harder to find a clear winner)
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 02 2010 08:21 GMT
#5680
On May 02 2010 15:36 Ecael wrote:
Forgot if this came up in a Southlight pm conversation yet, but apparently ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai is getting an anime adaptation. Semi tempted to watch just because Hanazawa Kana looks like she'll be in it (as kuroneko? wtf I'd almost cry miscast)...maybe if I really need a dose of romantic comedy when it shows I guess.


lo~li~con!
si~su~con!

Coming out desune~ :p

I'll watch a few episodes just for shits and giggles, and to see if I missed out on anything by passing over the novels. I'm finding Angel Beats!' comedy segments more annoying than anything else, and I also didn't actually find most of Bakemonogatari that funny either, but when the humor fails, I still found Bake's dialogue interesting enough to listen to/read that it made up for it.

But I mean, as we went over, I didn't like Bake/etc. that much, which is why you told me to read Kizu, which I haven't done yet.

This season I'm liking House of Fives Leaves and Working!! (although as with all comedies we'll see if it lasts). Durarara is nice but + Show Spoiler +
I pretty much assumed Anri was the cutter from the first time we saw the cutter. Maybe I'm just jaded? I'm used to characters never being "worthless" so her "coming out" was not particularly surprising.
and that sort of predictability is making it less engrossing than, say, Baccano, which was also predictable (in terms of character actions) but made up for it by being crazy fun. I'm just not falling for enough of their mysteries, I guess. I was also fairly certain about two of the three in the chat, too. + Show Spoiler +
Celty being the third didn't cross my mind, although in retrospect that, too, should not have been a surprise
Angel Beats! I'm watching because it's MJ but I'm still not "feeling it." Maybe it's just me, though. Right now my best comparison for Angel Beats! is LIFE, and while I'm pretty certain it'll stop being Angel Bullies it's just kinda meh.
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