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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
November 05 2012 04:20 GMT
#48701
On November 05 2012 12:47 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 10:43 Sentenal wrote:
On November 05 2012 09:11 Maxie wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:49 Sentenal wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:13 Maxie wrote:
On November 05 2012 07:17 tonight wrote:
You know, there is actually more to the story then that and there is one chick with boobs that hasn't had much screen time even in the last episode. Also, I don't understand the "mildly retarded main character" line. I don't know what would even lead you to think/say that.


Let's swap "mildly retarded main character" for "stupid" or "dumb". He sure can throw controllers though, I'll give him that. Don't get me wrong, he's not terrible, but he mildly annoys me at times. Latest time was when the girl was passed out and he almost went into rape mode. Yay.

If there's any character I do like in Btooom it's the Taira (sp? the old guy anyway) guy. Says he doesn't want to play the game etc but still collects those chips or whatever they are.

As for the story, yes, it's basically Battle Royale with bombs+ Show Spoiler +
except they were chosen by people they knew, who wanted them to disappear, and it's all staged by the Btooom developers.
Did I miss anything?

The main character is what you would expect out of a NEET put into that situation. Would you rather have another Kirito? I'll take Btooom's mc any day.


Better than a Kirito, yes. Doesn't mean I have to like him.

edit: not saying that you have to like the main character to like a series, but it helps.

I'm not saying you have to like him, I'm saying calling him "retarded" because he acts like a NEET is stupid.


I agree someone who plays sports game pretty well isnt going to become a pro if you throw him in uniform. Besides its a life and death thing, so he had a slow start.. big deal. Hes owning it up for the most part, not like hes continuing too suck and losing his testicles, + Show Spoiler +
hell he killed a kid.


Its the only show ive managed to keep up with aside from Jormungand.


He's not somebody who's just playing sports, he was a top 10 or some crap. The point is he is stupid because in things that were mirroring what he was considered "pro" in, he failed to apply his skills to that environment in a reasonable amount of time. It shouldn't take a third of his arsenal to figure it out.
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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
November 05 2012 04:23 GMT
#48702
playing a game where you sit down on your ass and trying to kill people with the same methods in real life aren't really transferable skills
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
November 05 2012 04:26 GMT
#48703
I just went through week 3 of cross channel, I'll probably do the next part next week.
+ Show Spoiler +
Just some quick thoughts as I'm rather busy right now to write anything too long. Kurosu's past is finally revealed. How he was made as a slave by some aristocrat and eventually a sex toy. He and Youko were in the same situation and that was how they knew each other.

Also, Youko is pretty fucking crazy too. I guess they are all broken in some way which is why they are in that school in the first place.

And Yutaka was one of the people who had raped him in there. But Yutaka lost his memories of it. When Kurosu finally found out that it was Yutaka, he told him about it and cornered him to commit suicide.

Gah, even though I know what has happened to Kurosu, I can't help but feel disgusted by him. He is pretty much a borderline rapists.

I do like how they are handling the hedgehog dillema though. He can't help but feel longing towards other people, but when he does interact with other people, he ends up hurting them.

I'll just leave it at that for now as I have to go now.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
November 05 2012 04:30 GMT
#48704
Is Btoom about a superhyper advanced VR game where you are involved on a cognitive/neurotransmitter level or something? If not, then I'm inclined to agree with tonight lol
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 04:31:50
November 05 2012 04:30 GMT
#48705
On November 05 2012 13:20 blahz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 12:47 Rebs wrote:
On November 05 2012 10:43 Sentenal wrote:
On November 05 2012 09:11 Maxie wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:49 Sentenal wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:13 Maxie wrote:
On November 05 2012 07:17 tonight wrote:
You know, there is actually more to the story then that and there is one chick with boobs that hasn't had much screen time even in the last episode. Also, I don't understand the "mildly retarded main character" line. I don't know what would even lead you to think/say that.


Let's swap "mildly retarded main character" for "stupid" or "dumb". He sure can throw controllers though, I'll give him that. Don't get me wrong, he's not terrible, but he mildly annoys me at times. Latest time was when the girl was passed out and he almost went into rape mode. Yay.

If there's any character I do like in Btooom it's the Taira (sp? the old guy anyway) guy. Says he doesn't want to play the game etc but still collects those chips or whatever they are.

As for the story, yes, it's basically Battle Royale with bombs+ Show Spoiler +
except they were chosen by people they knew, who wanted them to disappear, and it's all staged by the Btooom developers.
Did I miss anything?

The main character is what you would expect out of a NEET put into that situation. Would you rather have another Kirito? I'll take Btooom's mc any day.


Better than a Kirito, yes. Doesn't mean I have to like him.

edit: not saying that you have to like the main character to like a series, but it helps.

I'm not saying you have to like him, I'm saying calling him "retarded" because he acts like a NEET is stupid.


I agree someone who plays sports game pretty well isnt going to become a pro if you throw him in uniform. Besides its a life and death thing, so he had a slow start.. big deal. Hes owning it up for the most part, not like hes continuing too suck and losing his testicles, + Show Spoiler +
hell he killed a kid.


Its the only show ive managed to keep up with aside from Jormungand.


He's not somebody who's just playing sports, he was a top 10 or some crap. The point is he is stupid because in things that were mirroring what he was considered "pro" in, he failed to apply his skills to that environment in a reasonable amount of time. It shouldn't take a third of his arsenal to figure it out.

Because clearly, someone who is good at a 3rd person action game (which the video game is) has skills that directly transfers to real life. Give me a fuckin break, Blahz0r.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 04:46:35
November 05 2012 04:31 GMT
#48706
On November 05 2012 13:20 blahz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 12:47 Rebs wrote:
On November 05 2012 10:43 Sentenal wrote:
On November 05 2012 09:11 Maxie wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:49 Sentenal wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:13 Maxie wrote:
On November 05 2012 07:17 tonight wrote:
You know, there is actually more to the story then that and there is one chick with boobs that hasn't had much screen time even in the last episode. Also, I don't understand the "mildly retarded main character" line. I don't know what would even lead you to think/say that.


Let's swap "mildly retarded main character" for "stupid" or "dumb". He sure can throw controllers though, I'll give him that. Don't get me wrong, he's not terrible, but he mildly annoys me at times. Latest time was when the girl was passed out and he almost went into rape mode. Yay.

If there's any character I do like in Btooom it's the Taira (sp? the old guy anyway) guy. Says he doesn't want to play the game etc but still collects those chips or whatever they are.

As for the story, yes, it's basically Battle Royale with bombs+ Show Spoiler +
except they were chosen by people they knew, who wanted them to disappear, and it's all staged by the Btooom developers.
Did I miss anything?

The main character is what you would expect out of a NEET put into that situation. Would you rather have another Kirito? I'll take Btooom's mc any day.


Better than a Kirito, yes. Doesn't mean I have to like him.

edit: not saying that you have to like the main character to like a series, but it helps.

I'm not saying you have to like him, I'm saying calling him "retarded" because he acts like a NEET is stupid.


I agree someone who plays sports game pretty well isnt going to become a pro if you throw him in uniform. Besides its a life and death thing, so he had a slow start.. big deal. Hes owning it up for the most part, not like hes continuing too suck and losing his testicles, + Show Spoiler +
hell he killed a kid.


Its the only show ive managed to keep up with aside from Jormungand.


He's not somebody who's just playing sports, he was a top 10 or some crap. The point is he is stupid because in things that were mirroring what he was considered "pro" in, he failed to apply his skills to that environment in a reasonable amount of time. It shouldn't take a third of his arsenal to figure it out.


I think it was reasonable. You can be however good you want at a video game, It took some time for the reality situation to sink in and he obviously was going to make mistakes. Lets not forget he had no memory of what happened.

One moment your NEETING it up, the next your hanging from a parachute in the middle of nowhere playing it for real and people are trying to kill you. The notion quite frankly to anyone would be absurd and take a little bit ot register.

Also it was the pretty well part that was important in the analogy, not the playing sports part.

blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 04:33:15
November 05 2012 04:32 GMT
#48707
On November 05 2012 13:23 tonight wrote:
playing a game where you sit down on your ass and trying to kill people with the same methods in real life aren't really transferable skills


Okay so knowing there's a number counting down on something that is similar to the things you used in a video game doesn't spark anything in your brain? How about if you played a fps game and then were handed a gun in real life, would you not know what the trigger would do? These are sad excuses for not knowing simple things.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 05 2012 04:33 GMT
#48708
On November 05 2012 13:32 blahz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 13:23 tonight wrote:
playing a game where you sit down on your ass and trying to kill people with the same methods in real life aren't really transferable skills


Okay so knowing there's a number counting down on something that is similar to the things you used in a video game doesn't spark anything in your brain? How about if you played a game like counter-strike and then were handed a gun in real life, would you not know what the trigger would do? These are sad excuses for not knowing simple things.

Its a fucking 3rd person top down action game. Its like if you IRL encountered a bomb like from Zelda, and then some jackass expecting you to instantly know what it is/how it works.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 04:35:43
November 05 2012 04:34 GMT
#48709
On November 05 2012 13:32 blahz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 13:23 tonight wrote:
playing a game where you sit down on your ass and trying to kill people with the same methods in real life aren't really transferable skills


Okay so knowing there's a number counting down on something that is similar to the things you used in a video game doesn't spark anything in your brain? How about if you played a fps game and then were handed a gun in real life, would you not know what the trigger would do? These are sad excuses for not knowing simple things.


Pulling the trigger is hardly all there is to shooting a gun. I dont know how many you've shot. I promise you the best fps player on the planet wouldnt know the first thing to do ( if he hadnt done it before for real) if he actually got handed one and people were trying to shoot him.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
November 05 2012 04:38 GMT
#48710
Considering he realized it was a bomb because of the counter and threw it away because of an instinctual danger as it approached zero, followed by a confirmation of that fear upon explosion, I'm inclined to think even a NEET would realize the bomb works on a countdown basis after that.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 04:49:46
November 05 2012 04:45 GMT
#48711
Shooting a gun and tossing grenades is a lot more difficult than you'd expect (maybe tossing grenades wouldn't be as hard) and I'd say the life-and-death thing compounds how badly they'd tend to screw it up.

For an example of how video game players fare with an actual gun in their hands, I refer you to this:
+ Show Spoiler +


Obviously a top-down perspective third-person shoot-em-up(?) doesn't qualify you for anything except playing a top-down perspective third-person shoot-em-up imho ._.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 05 2012 04:46 GMT
#48712
On November 05 2012 13:38 KazeHydra wrote:
Considering he realized it was a bomb because of the counter and threw it away because of an instinctual danger as it approached zero, followed by a confirmation of that fear upon explosion, I'm inclined to think even a NEET would realize the bomb works on a countdown basis after that.

The guy showed up on a deserted island without any memories, he randomly has a bomb, and then all the sudden this crazy dude shows up and starts trying to murder him. The crazy dude starts chunking bombs at him that explode on impact. All the sudden MC is running for his life while shit is exploding around him and he has no idea wtf is going on. And then retards like Blahz0r think he should instantly know whats up in that situation, rather than figure out whats going on after his 3rd bomb.

User was temp banned for this post.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
November 05 2012 05:39 GMT
#48713
He obviously figured out it was a bomb or that was where the show would of ended.

"MC holds a bomb as it counts down to zero because he doesn't realize it's a bomb."

Good show.

They even went out of their way to explain why he was so confused at the start. You know with the whole couldn't remember anything about why he was here or what was going on. Everyone else got the speech about killing each other and getting the little gems. He, however, did not remember any of that. So, it's pretty natural that he'd be extremely confused at the start not to mention someone was trying to kill him. I think the fact that he even adapted so quickly to the situation was credited to his nerd gaming skills. They didn't go extremely over board with it. They put him in a situation that was out of hand and had him figure it out in panic mode.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
November 05 2012 05:51 GMT
#48714
Yet he's able to deduce that these thrown things are bombs. He even instinctively or not threw the 1st timed object in his hand away. You can't say he was not capable of using his brain at all when he's putting up thoughts knowing that these things explode, object that counts to 0 should not be in his hand, why am I in this place, what is going on, etc. It's clear that he was somewhat capable of using his brain to some degree and that he knows objects explode and timer to 0 = bad. Along with prior experience from a game he's played a lot in and is very good at, he should be able to come to a conclusion in that the objects in his pouch are timed explosives. Yet it took him like what, 5 bombs to get it through to his head that's you know still running thoughts in his "panicked state". For that, he is stupid in that one instance of time. I'm not saying he's a stupid person period. He doesn't need to know he's playing a real life instance of btoom, it's reasonable to say he would never figure it out till much later because of he had memory loss from that point in time.

If source material says otherwise then well anime production is to blame and that episode can easily be implied as "MC going through a stupidity phase".
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Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
November 05 2012 06:38 GMT
#48715
mismarca koukoku monogatari manga just finished being translated. holy shit that series was cash, but i heard it gets kinda fucking depressing. does anyone know how the rest of the ln's are? how mindfucked will i be if i read them
jaedong the man with the huge dong
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
November 05 2012 08:14 GMT
#48716
+ Show Spoiler [Magi6] +
Giant topless blue female genie, with nipple piercings.

And Aladdin, the kid obsessed with boobs, didn't even care.


All of my what the hell did i just watch.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
November 05 2012 08:14 GMT
#48717
hsubdesu site is gone. humanity has declined T_T
Skol
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
November 05 2012 08:23 GMT
#48718
I'm very curious as to what the school days trolling was all about :$
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 09:59:23
November 05 2012 09:32 GMT
#48719
On November 05 2012 17:14 killa_robot wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Magi6] +
Giant topless blue female genie, with nipple piercings.

And Aladdin, the kid obsessed with boobs, didn't even care.


All of my what the hell did i just watch.

The 2nd part felt awkward to me. I thought he loved those, maybe big blue ones aren't it.
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Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
November 05 2012 10:37 GMT
#48720
On November 05 2012 18:32 blahz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 17:14 killa_robot wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Magi6] +
Giant topless blue female genie, with nipple piercings.

And Aladdin, the kid obsessed with boobs, didn't even care.


All of my what the hell did i just watch.

The 2nd part felt awkward to me. I thought he loved those, maybe big blue ones aren't it.


Aladdin, I am disappoint. Cares more about horseboobs and manboobs than those ):
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