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Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 16:08:29
September 04 2012 16:03 GMT
#46141
On September 04 2012 16:18 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 15:26 Tabbris wrote:
Maybe Im just biased because I saw it when i was 14 and I thought it was the most magnificent shows ive ever seen. 7 years later may of changed my perspective so I guess ill give it a rewatch

Anime is about entertainment, and the entire anime pounds into your brain how fucking terrible every single character is. That doesn't sound enjoyable to me. I dunno about you, but I don't get much entertainment watching a bunch of autists and sociopaths (who never change or get any more bearable) trying to defend the world, practically failing in the end, all the while the anime is trying to cram "religious symbolism" down your throat. Often people say "Well, thats the point." Well, in that case, good job Evangelion, your purpose of being horrible has been accomplished. The ending of the anime was among the worst I've ever seen, and EoE was laughably terrible with all the shit they decided to put in (from tang to jacking off in a hospital). Decent occasional fights isn't enough to redeem an anime with practically nothing else going for it.

Ah thats what I was waiting from you.
Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained? I honestly never had a problem with Asuka and Shinji cause they seemed like realistic people too me. But again Ill rewatch since its been years and I think my taste got alot more refined since then

Oh and Ive always been a sucker for surreal shit so the Movie had my eyes glues to the screen.
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 17:05:26
September 04 2012 17:03 GMT
#46142
What if Nozomu Itoshiki from SZS was the main character in evangelion? Now, that would have been interesting.
Needs rmk.
as useful as teasalt
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 04 2012 17:43 GMT
#46143
watching zero no tsukaima

i find it funny how after 3 seasons no one has given a flying fuck about saito's parents
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
September 04 2012 17:57 GMT
#46144
On September 04 2012 15:22 Tabbris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 15:19 Sentenal wrote:
On September 04 2012 15:03 Tabbris wrote:
On September 04 2012 12:09 Sentenal wrote:
On September 03 2012 22:52 Elem wrote:
Shauni laying down the truth, kids. Just this one time you should read what he wrote and seriously think about it.

Except he uses those same words to defend Evangelion.

Honestly people here give evangelion way more hate then it deserves.

I disagree. I think they don't give it enough hate.

You just jelly because its a masterpiece.


Gez people just cant stand pussys in anime I get that. But still knocking evangelion off as down right terrible is alittle much.

People here only watch moe, slice-of-life and harem shows/"romance"/"comedy", so don't bother ;-)

Also, NGE is pretty nice.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 04 2012 17:57 GMT
#46145
On September 05 2012 02:43 Denzil wrote:
watching zero no tsukaima

i find it funny how after 3 seasons no one has given a flying fuck about saito's parents


There was a part about that in the novel, but anime is just going off on random direction it might as well use a different name.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
September 04 2012 18:20 GMT
#46146
If you are watching ZnT for plot, you are probably doing something wrong.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 04 2012 18:39 GMT
#46147
The novel have really nice plot. Anime just chose to do something else.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 19:22:15
September 04 2012 19:21 GMT
#46148
On September 05 2012 03:20 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
If you are watching ZnT for plot, you are probably doing something wrong.


after being able to guess how every episode wraps up regardless of if they've kissed and made up the previous minute or not i figured that out

^ i plan on reading the LN to see how it differs
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 04 2012 19:36 GMT
#46149
On September 05 2012 01:03 Tabbris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 16:18 Sentenal wrote:
On September 04 2012 15:26 Tabbris wrote:
Maybe Im just biased because I saw it when i was 14 and I thought it was the most magnificent shows ive ever seen. 7 years later may of changed my perspective so I guess ill give it a rewatch

Anime is about entertainment, and the entire anime pounds into your brain how fucking terrible every single character is. That doesn't sound enjoyable to me. I dunno about you, but I don't get much entertainment watching a bunch of autists and sociopaths (who never change or get any more bearable) trying to defend the world, practically failing in the end, all the while the anime is trying to cram "religious symbolism" down your throat. Often people say "Well, thats the point." Well, in that case, good job Evangelion, your purpose of being horrible has been accomplished. The ending of the anime was among the worst I've ever seen, and EoE was laughably terrible with all the shit they decided to put in (from tang to jacking off in a hospital). Decent occasional fights isn't enough to redeem an anime with practically nothing else going for it.

Ah thats what I was waiting from you.
Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained? I honestly never had a problem with Asuka and Shinji cause they seemed like realistic people too me. But again Ill rewatch since its been years and I think my taste got alot more refined since then

Oh and Ive always been a sucker for surreal shit so the Movie had my eyes glues to the screen.

Sure, they are realistic people. But would you want to associate with either of them? Are they enjoyable to watch? Shinji is infuriating to watch. Is he a realistic protrayal of someone put into that position? Yeah, but I don't think realistic=enjoyable. Asuka is simply a teenager bitch. Realistic? Sure, but again, that doesn't make her any more bearable.

Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained?

If you watch Evangelion as a comedy, MAYBE I can see how it can be entertaining. In the same way its possible to enjoy Code Geass R2 if you watch it as a comedy. But I think it takes effort to watch it as a comedy, and it wasn't meant to be watched as a comedy.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
September 04 2012 19:45 GMT
#46150
On September 05 2012 04:36 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 01:03 Tabbris wrote:
On September 04 2012 16:18 Sentenal wrote:
On September 04 2012 15:26 Tabbris wrote:
Maybe Im just biased because I saw it when i was 14 and I thought it was the most magnificent shows ive ever seen. 7 years later may of changed my perspective so I guess ill give it a rewatch

Anime is about entertainment, and the entire anime pounds into your brain how fucking terrible every single character is. That doesn't sound enjoyable to me. I dunno about you, but I don't get much entertainment watching a bunch of autists and sociopaths (who never change or get any more bearable) trying to defend the world, practically failing in the end, all the while the anime is trying to cram "religious symbolism" down your throat. Often people say "Well, thats the point." Well, in that case, good job Evangelion, your purpose of being horrible has been accomplished. The ending of the anime was among the worst I've ever seen, and EoE was laughably terrible with all the shit they decided to put in (from tang to jacking off in a hospital). Decent occasional fights isn't enough to redeem an anime with practically nothing else going for it.

Ah thats what I was waiting from you.
Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained? I honestly never had a problem with Asuka and Shinji cause they seemed like realistic people too me. But again Ill rewatch since its been years and I think my taste got alot more refined since then

Oh and Ive always been a sucker for surreal shit so the Movie had my eyes glues to the screen.

Sure, they are realistic people. But would you want to associate with either of them? Are they enjoyable to watch? Shinji is infuriating to watch. Is he a realistic protrayal of someone put into that position? Yeah, but I don't think realistic=enjoyable. Asuka is simply a teenager bitch. Realistic? Sure, but again, that doesn't make her any more bearable.

Show nested quote +
Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained?

If you watch Evangelion as a comedy, MAYBE I can see how it can be entertaining. In the same way its possible to enjoy Code Geass R2 if you watch it as a comedy. But I think it takes effort to watch it as a comedy, and it wasn't meant to be watched as a comedy.


Its not enjoyable to you, you mean. I think everyone whose ever had this argument with you always seems to get where your coming from but it seems hard for you to accept that what you dont find enjoyable, they do.

Whatever the reason might be. Maybe they like cutting themselves and Evangelion gives their existence meaning with a nice little self plug, I dont know and I dont care but its stopped being mildly amusing seeing you bang your head against a wall that doesnt really exist.

So what if it doesnt make sense to you.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 04 2012 19:54 GMT
#46151
On September 05 2012 04:36 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 01:03 Tabbris wrote:
On September 04 2012 16:18 Sentenal wrote:
On September 04 2012 15:26 Tabbris wrote:
Maybe Im just biased because I saw it when i was 14 and I thought it was the most magnificent shows ive ever seen. 7 years later may of changed my perspective so I guess ill give it a rewatch

Anime is about entertainment, and the entire anime pounds into your brain how fucking terrible every single character is. That doesn't sound enjoyable to me. I dunno about you, but I don't get much entertainment watching a bunch of autists and sociopaths (who never change or get any more bearable) trying to defend the world, practically failing in the end, all the while the anime is trying to cram "religious symbolism" down your throat. Often people say "Well, thats the point." Well, in that case, good job Evangelion, your purpose of being horrible has been accomplished. The ending of the anime was among the worst I've ever seen, and EoE was laughably terrible with all the shit they decided to put in (from tang to jacking off in a hospital). Decent occasional fights isn't enough to redeem an anime with practically nothing else going for it.

Ah thats what I was waiting from you.
Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained? I honestly never had a problem with Asuka and Shinji cause they seemed like realistic people too me. But again Ill rewatch since its been years and I think my taste got alot more refined since then

Oh and Ive always been a sucker for surreal shit so the Movie had my eyes glues to the screen.

Sure, they are realistic people. But would you want to associate with either of them? Are they enjoyable to watch? Shinji is infuriating to watch. Is he a realistic protrayal of someone put into that position? Yeah, but I don't think realistic=enjoyable. Asuka is simply a teenager bitch. Realistic? Sure, but again, that doesn't make her any more bearable.

Show nested quote +
Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained?

If you watch Evangelion as a comedy, MAYBE I can see how it can be entertaining. In the same way its possible to enjoy Code Geass R2 if you watch it as a comedy. But I think it takes effort to watch it as a comedy, and it wasn't meant to be watched as a comedy.

Honestly, I find a lot of entertainment in the realm of "how would a regular person react when exposed to x?" types of stuff. I enjoy surrealism and fantasy as well, but there's plenty to be watched from seeing someone who's not brave/heroic/etc be thrust into those situations. Sure, it's generally not epic or hilarious, but it's interesting at the very least, and the well written ones are enthralling.

I mean (and off topic), hell, one of the most entertaining parts of LotR is the fact that the Hobbits aren't warriors, or wizards, but you see them go on this huge journey fraught with danger. They're never the ones that are fighting or leading armies, but their stories are very interesting and entertaining nonetheless.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 20:06:17
September 04 2012 20:01 GMT
#46152
On September 05 2012 04:45 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 04:36 Sentenal wrote:
On September 05 2012 01:03 Tabbris wrote:
On September 04 2012 16:18 Sentenal wrote:
On September 04 2012 15:26 Tabbris wrote:
Maybe Im just biased because I saw it when i was 14 and I thought it was the most magnificent shows ive ever seen. 7 years later may of changed my perspective so I guess ill give it a rewatch

Anime is about entertainment, and the entire anime pounds into your brain how fucking terrible every single character is. That doesn't sound enjoyable to me. I dunno about you, but I don't get much entertainment watching a bunch of autists and sociopaths (who never change or get any more bearable) trying to defend the world, practically failing in the end, all the while the anime is trying to cram "religious symbolism" down your throat. Often people say "Well, thats the point." Well, in that case, good job Evangelion, your purpose of being horrible has been accomplished. The ending of the anime was among the worst I've ever seen, and EoE was laughably terrible with all the shit they decided to put in (from tang to jacking off in a hospital). Decent occasional fights isn't enough to redeem an anime with practically nothing else going for it.

Ah thats what I was waiting from you.
Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained? I honestly never had a problem with Asuka and Shinji cause they seemed like realistic people too me. But again Ill rewatch since its been years and I think my taste got alot more refined since then

Oh and Ive always been a sucker for surreal shit so the Movie had my eyes glues to the screen.

Sure, they are realistic people. But would you want to associate with either of them? Are they enjoyable to watch? Shinji is infuriating to watch. Is he a realistic protrayal of someone put into that position? Yeah, but I don't think realistic=enjoyable. Asuka is simply a teenager bitch. Realistic? Sure, but again, that doesn't make her any more bearable.

Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained?

If you watch Evangelion as a comedy, MAYBE I can see how it can be entertaining. In the same way its possible to enjoy Code Geass R2 if you watch it as a comedy. But I think it takes effort to watch it as a comedy, and it wasn't meant to be watched as a comedy.


Its not enjoyable to you, you mean. I think everyone whose ever had this argument with you always seems to get where your coming from but it seems hard for you to accept that what you dont find enjoyable, they do.

Whatever the reason might be. Maybe they like cutting themselves and Evangelion gives their existence meaning with a nice little self plug, I dont know and I dont care but its stopped being mildly amusing seeing you bang your head against a wall that doesnt really exist.

So what if it doesnt make sense to you.

lol, this may be a hard concept for you to understand, but I'll walk you through it. I said Evangelion was bad. He said it gets too much hate, and explained why he likes it. I express my disagreement, and give the reasons why. See, this is a thing called "discussion". Neither of us are probably never going to change our opinions on this matter, but ultimately that's irrelevant. But we can still engage in an exchange of ideas like this, trying to show the other party other view points. But is this thing somehow me trying to understand why people like Evangelion? Hell no, I know why they like it. This isn't about trying to understand why. Does that mean I agree with why they like it? Of course not, and that is where difference of opinion that is one of the roots of discussion lay.

On September 05 2012 04:54 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 04:36 Sentenal wrote:
On September 05 2012 01:03 Tabbris wrote:
On September 04 2012 16:18 Sentenal wrote:
On September 04 2012 15:26 Tabbris wrote:
Maybe Im just biased because I saw it when i was 14 and I thought it was the most magnificent shows ive ever seen. 7 years later may of changed my perspective so I guess ill give it a rewatch

Anime is about entertainment, and the entire anime pounds into your brain how fucking terrible every single character is. That doesn't sound enjoyable to me. I dunno about you, but I don't get much entertainment watching a bunch of autists and sociopaths (who never change or get any more bearable) trying to defend the world, practically failing in the end, all the while the anime is trying to cram "religious symbolism" down your throat. Often people say "Well, thats the point." Well, in that case, good job Evangelion, your purpose of being horrible has been accomplished. The ending of the anime was among the worst I've ever seen, and EoE was laughably terrible with all the shit they decided to put in (from tang to jacking off in a hospital). Decent occasional fights isn't enough to redeem an anime with practically nothing else going for it.

Ah thats what I was waiting from you.
Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained? I honestly never had a problem with Asuka and Shinji cause they seemed like realistic people too me. But again Ill rewatch since its been years and I think my taste got alot more refined since then

Oh and Ive always been a sucker for surreal shit so the Movie had my eyes glues to the screen.

Sure, they are realistic people. But would you want to associate with either of them? Are they enjoyable to watch? Shinji is infuriating to watch. Is he a realistic protrayal of someone put into that position? Yeah, but I don't think realistic=enjoyable. Asuka is simply a teenager bitch. Realistic? Sure, but again, that doesn't make her any more bearable.

Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained?

If you watch Evangelion as a comedy, MAYBE I can see how it can be entertaining. In the same way its possible to enjoy Code Geass R2 if you watch it as a comedy. But I think it takes effort to watch it as a comedy, and it wasn't meant to be watched as a comedy.

Honestly, I find a lot of entertainment in the realm of "how would a regular person react when exposed to x?" types of stuff. I enjoy surrealism and fantasy as well, but there's plenty to be watched from seeing someone who's not brave/heroic/etc be thrust into those situations. Sure, it's generally not epic or hilarious, but it's interesting at the very least, and the well written ones are enthralling.

I mean (and off topic), hell, one of the most entertaining parts of LotR is the fact that the Hobbits aren't warriors, or wizards, but you see them go on this huge journey fraught with danger. They're never the ones that are fighting or leading armies, but their stories are very interesting and entertaining nonetheless.

In principle, I agree. But, going with your LotR example, even though the Hobbits aren't warriors, they still rise to the challeges they are faced against, and eventually triumph over them. Watching stories where a "normal" person is thrust into a huge adventure is entertaining. Everyone loves watching the little guy growing over the course of a story, inspiring people to work harder, rise to the challenge, and eventually succeed. Evangelion could have been like that, except instead of eventually succeeding......
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 20:13:33
September 04 2012 20:12 GMT
#46153
On September 05 2012 05:01 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 04:45 Rebs wrote:
On September 05 2012 04:36 Sentenal wrote:
On September 05 2012 01:03 Tabbris wrote:
On September 04 2012 16:18 Sentenal wrote:
On September 04 2012 15:26 Tabbris wrote:
Maybe Im just biased because I saw it when i was 14 and I thought it was the most magnificent shows ive ever seen. 7 years later may of changed my perspective so I guess ill give it a rewatch

Anime is about entertainment, and the entire anime pounds into your brain how fucking terrible every single character is. That doesn't sound enjoyable to me. I dunno about you, but I don't get much entertainment watching a bunch of autists and sociopaths (who never change or get any more bearable) trying to defend the world, practically failing in the end, all the while the anime is trying to cram "religious symbolism" down your throat. Often people say "Well, thats the point." Well, in that case, good job Evangelion, your purpose of being horrible has been accomplished. The ending of the anime was among the worst I've ever seen, and EoE was laughably terrible with all the shit they decided to put in (from tang to jacking off in a hospital). Decent occasional fights isn't enough to redeem an anime with practically nothing else going for it.

Ah thats what I was waiting from you.
Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained? I honestly never had a problem with Asuka and Shinji cause they seemed like realistic people too me. But again Ill rewatch since its been years and I think my taste got alot more refined since then

Oh and Ive always been a sucker for surreal shit so the Movie had my eyes glues to the screen.

Sure, they are realistic people. But would you want to associate with either of them? Are they enjoyable to watch? Shinji is infuriating to watch. Is he a realistic protrayal of someone put into that position? Yeah, but I don't think realistic=enjoyable. Asuka is simply a teenager bitch. Realistic? Sure, but again, that doesn't make her any more bearable.

Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained?

If you watch Evangelion as a comedy, MAYBE I can see how it can be entertaining. In the same way its possible to enjoy Code Geass R2 if you watch it as a comedy. But I think it takes effort to watch it as a comedy, and it wasn't meant to be watched as a comedy.


Its not enjoyable to you, you mean. I think everyone whose ever had this argument with you always seems to get where your coming from but it seems hard for you to accept that what you dont find enjoyable, they do.

Whatever the reason might be. Maybe they like cutting themselves and Evangelion gives their existence meaning with a nice little self plug, I dont know and I dont care but its stopped being mildly amusing seeing you bang your head against a wall that doesnt really exist.

So what if it doesnt make sense to you.

lol, this may be a hard concept for you to understand, but I'll walk you through it. I said Evangelion was bad. He said it gets too much hate, and explained why he likes it. I express my disagreement, and give the reasons why. See, this is a thing called "discussion". Neither of us are probably never going to change our opinions on this matter, but ultimately that's irrelevant. But we can still engage in an exchange of ideas like this, trying to show the other party other view points. But is this thing somehow me trying to understand why people like Evangelion? Hell no, I know why they like it. This isn't about trying to understand why. Does that mean I agree with why they like it? Of course not, and that is where difference of opinion that is one of the roots of discussion lay.

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 04:54 Requizen wrote:
On September 05 2012 04:36 Sentenal wrote:
On September 05 2012 01:03 Tabbris wrote:
On September 04 2012 16:18 Sentenal wrote:
On September 04 2012 15:26 Tabbris wrote:
Maybe Im just biased because I saw it when i was 14 and I thought it was the most magnificent shows ive ever seen. 7 years later may of changed my perspective so I guess ill give it a rewatch

Anime is about entertainment, and the entire anime pounds into your brain how fucking terrible every single character is. That doesn't sound enjoyable to me. I dunno about you, but I don't get much entertainment watching a bunch of autists and sociopaths (who never change or get any more bearable) trying to defend the world, practically failing in the end, all the while the anime is trying to cram "religious symbolism" down your throat. Often people say "Well, thats the point." Well, in that case, good job Evangelion, your purpose of being horrible has been accomplished. The ending of the anime was among the worst I've ever seen, and EoE was laughably terrible with all the shit they decided to put in (from tang to jacking off in a hospital). Decent occasional fights isn't enough to redeem an anime with practically nothing else going for it.

Ah thats what I was waiting from you.
Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained? I honestly never had a problem with Asuka and Shinji cause they seemed like realistic people too me. But again Ill rewatch since its been years and I think my taste got alot more refined since then

Oh and Ive always been a sucker for surreal shit so the Movie had my eyes glues to the screen.

Sure, they are realistic people. But would you want to associate with either of them? Are they enjoyable to watch? Shinji is infuriating to watch. Is he a realistic protrayal of someone put into that position? Yeah, but I don't think realistic=enjoyable. Asuka is simply a teenager bitch. Realistic? Sure, but again, that doesn't make her any more bearable.

Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained?

If you watch Evangelion as a comedy, MAYBE I can see how it can be entertaining. In the same way its possible to enjoy Code Geass R2 if you watch it as a comedy. But I think it takes effort to watch it as a comedy, and it wasn't meant to be watched as a comedy.

Honestly, I find a lot of entertainment in the realm of "how would a regular person react when exposed to x?" types of stuff. I enjoy surrealism and fantasy as well, but there's plenty to be watched from seeing someone who's not brave/heroic/etc be thrust into those situations. Sure, it's generally not epic or hilarious, but it's interesting at the very least, and the well written ones are enthralling.

I mean (and off topic), hell, one of the most entertaining parts of LotR is the fact that the Hobbits aren't warriors, or wizards, but you see them go on this huge journey fraught with danger. They're never the ones that are fighting or leading armies, but their stories are very interesting and entertaining nonetheless.

In principle, I agree. But, going with your LotR example, even though the Hobbits aren't warriors, they still rise to the challeges they are faced against, and eventually triumph over them. Watching stories where a "normal" person is thrust into a huge adventure is entertaining. Everyone loves watching the little guy growing over the course of a story, inspiring people to work harder, rise to the challenge, and eventually succeed. Evangelion could have been like that, except instead of eventually succeeding......

Eh, I think it's refreshing. Life isn't all victories, it's not even mostly victories. Sometimes, you try and fuck up. Sometimes, you try and it doesn't matter. Sometimes, you could probably overcome something, but you're too fucking demoralized to even put the effort forward. That's life.

Honestly, I start to get a bit pissed at fairy tale and hollywood endings. There's no suspense, there's no drive when you know that the good guy will win and that even if it looks like death is right at his doorstep, he'll get through because, well, hero. It's nice to see "well fuck you, this is how the world works sometimes" and then they get shot in the face.

Did NGE go a bit too heavy-handed on it? Maybe, I can see that reasoning. But there's nothing wrong with a bad (or "controversial") ending every now and then.
It's your boy Guzma!
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 20:21:31
September 04 2012 20:15 GMT
#46154
On September 05 2012 05:01 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 04:45 Rebs wrote:
On September 05 2012 04:36 Sentenal wrote:
On September 05 2012 01:03 Tabbris wrote:
On September 04 2012 16:18 Sentenal wrote:
On September 04 2012 15:26 Tabbris wrote:
Maybe Im just biased because I saw it when i was 14 and I thought it was the most magnificent shows ive ever seen. 7 years later may of changed my perspective so I guess ill give it a rewatch

Anime is about entertainment, and the entire anime pounds into your brain how fucking terrible every single character is. That doesn't sound enjoyable to me. I dunno about you, but I don't get much entertainment watching a bunch of autists and sociopaths (who never change or get any more bearable) trying to defend the world, practically failing in the end, all the while the anime is trying to cram "religious symbolism" down your throat. Often people say "Well, thats the point." Well, in that case, good job Evangelion, your purpose of being horrible has been accomplished. The ending of the anime was among the worst I've ever seen, and EoE was laughably terrible with all the shit they decided to put in (from tang to jacking off in a hospital). Decent occasional fights isn't enough to redeem an anime with practically nothing else going for it.

Ah thats what I was waiting from you.
Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained? I honestly never had a problem with Asuka and Shinji cause they seemed like realistic people too me. But again Ill rewatch since its been years and I think my taste got alot more refined since then

Oh and Ive always been a sucker for surreal shit so the Movie had my eyes glues to the screen.

Sure, they are realistic people. But would you want to associate with either of them? Are they enjoyable to watch? Shinji is infuriating to watch. Is he a realistic protrayal of someone put into that position? Yeah, but I don't think realistic=enjoyable. Asuka is simply a teenager bitch. Realistic? Sure, but again, that doesn't make her any more bearable.

Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained?

If you watch Evangelion as a comedy, MAYBE I can see how it can be entertaining. In the same way its possible to enjoy Code Geass R2 if you watch it as a comedy. But I think it takes effort to watch it as a comedy, and it wasn't meant to be watched as a comedy.


Its not enjoyable to you, you mean. I think everyone whose ever had this argument with you always seems to get where your coming from but it seems hard for you to accept that what you dont find enjoyable, they do.

Whatever the reason might be. Maybe they like cutting themselves and Evangelion gives their existence meaning with a nice little self plug, I dont know and I dont care but its stopped being mildly amusing seeing you bang your head against a wall that doesnt really exist.

So what if it doesnt make sense to you.

lol, this may be a hard concept for you to understand, but I'll walk you through it. I said Evangelion was bad. He said it gets too much hate, and explained why he likes it. I express my disagreement, and give the reasons why. See, this is a thing called "discussion". Neither of us are probably never going to change our opinions on this matter, but ultimately that's irrelevant. But we can still engage in an exchange of ideas like this, trying to show the other party other view points. But is this thing somehow me trying to understand why people like Evangelion? Hell no, I know why they like it. This isn't about trying to understand why. Does that mean I agree with why they like it? Of course not, and that is where difference of opinion that is one of the roots of discussion lay.



Im pretty sure your mantra is often (something to the effect of) "I can never understand why people like shit ". Thats not a discussion, But I guess robot otakus think different.

Granted this wasnt one of those instances. But omg thank you so much for explaining what a "discussion is". Its Sentenal telling people stuff he doesnt like is shit. The concept truly was alien to me.

A discussion is irrelevant if both parties know from the onset that they will eventually agree to disagree. And even if its not both considering this..

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=evangelion&t=c&f=-1&u=sentenal&gb=date&d=

Im sure we have one guy who doesnt really want to discuss, because he will not be swayed for sure.He just wants to let people know how bad Evangelion is. Or am I getting this wrong or has there ever been any argument for Evangelion that you might consider acceding to.

Its always..

Sent : "Fuck eva NO growth no growth no growth.."

X : But Ilike that theres no growth, its realistic and...

Sent : Fuck realistic, The characters are pussies. HOW CAN U LIKE PUSSIES !?!?! !!

Not that its great mind you.

Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 20:23:56
September 04 2012 20:21 GMT
#46155
Yeah, I you could say it was too heavy-handed on it. And its not to say that I think that stories with a "bad end" are bad. Anime like Shin Mazinger, Zeta Gundam, or Blue Gender all have relatively "bad" endings. Even my favorite VN that I like to praise constantly has a "bitter sweet" ending. But I kinda think that having an ending as "bitter sweet", rather than simply a "bad end", is important.

On September 05 2012 05:15 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 05:01 Sentenal wrote:
On September 05 2012 04:45 Rebs wrote:
On September 05 2012 04:36 Sentenal wrote:
On September 05 2012 01:03 Tabbris wrote:
On September 04 2012 16:18 Sentenal wrote:
On September 04 2012 15:26 Tabbris wrote:
Maybe Im just biased because I saw it when i was 14 and I thought it was the most magnificent shows ive ever seen. 7 years later may of changed my perspective so I guess ill give it a rewatch

Anime is about entertainment, and the entire anime pounds into your brain how fucking terrible every single character is. That doesn't sound enjoyable to me. I dunno about you, but I don't get much entertainment watching a bunch of autists and sociopaths (who never change or get any more bearable) trying to defend the world, practically failing in the end, all the while the anime is trying to cram "religious symbolism" down your throat. Often people say "Well, thats the point." Well, in that case, good job Evangelion, your purpose of being horrible has been accomplished. The ending of the anime was among the worst I've ever seen, and EoE was laughably terrible with all the shit they decided to put in (from tang to jacking off in a hospital). Decent occasional fights isn't enough to redeem an anime with practically nothing else going for it.

Ah thats what I was waiting from you.
Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained? I honestly never had a problem with Asuka and Shinji cause they seemed like realistic people too me. But again Ill rewatch since its been years and I think my taste got alot more refined since then

Oh and Ive always been a sucker for surreal shit so the Movie had my eyes glues to the screen.

Sure, they are realistic people. But would you want to associate with either of them? Are they enjoyable to watch? Shinji is infuriating to watch. Is he a realistic protrayal of someone put into that position? Yeah, but I don't think realistic=enjoyable. Asuka is simply a teenager bitch. Realistic? Sure, but again, that doesn't make her any more bearable.

Oh thats very entertaining ^^. Gathering people who dont want to be there/mommy issues and telling them to save the world. Then seeing them completly breakdown. Having everything crashing down in front of them with the end of the fucking world. How can you not be entertained?

If you watch Evangelion as a comedy, MAYBE I can see how it can be entertaining. In the same way its possible to enjoy Code Geass R2 if you watch it as a comedy. But I think it takes effort to watch it as a comedy, and it wasn't meant to be watched as a comedy.


Its not enjoyable to you, you mean. I think everyone whose ever had this argument with you always seems to get where your coming from but it seems hard for you to accept that what you dont find enjoyable, they do.

Whatever the reason might be. Maybe they like cutting themselves and Evangelion gives their existence meaning with a nice little self plug, I dont know and I dont care but its stopped being mildly amusing seeing you bang your head against a wall that doesnt really exist.

So what if it doesnt make sense to you.

lol, this may be a hard concept for you to understand, but I'll walk you through it. I said Evangelion was bad. He said it gets too much hate, and explained why he likes it. I express my disagreement, and give the reasons why. See, this is a thing called "discussion". Neither of us are probably never going to change our opinions on this matter, but ultimately that's irrelevant. But we can still engage in an exchange of ideas like this, trying to show the other party other view points. But is this thing somehow me trying to understand why people like Evangelion? Hell no, I know why they like it. This isn't about trying to understand why. Does that mean I agree with why they like it? Of course not, and that is where difference of opinion that is one of the roots of discussion lay.



Im pretty sure your mantra is often (something to the effect of) "I can never understand why people like shit ". Thats not a discussion, But I guess robot otakus think different.

Granted this wasnt one of those instances.

Then shut up and stop trying to goad me into flaming you.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
September 04 2012 20:32 GMT
#46156
Just started watching SAO, episode 4 right now. It's alright I guess. It just goes way too fast. When people die i'm like, meh whatever.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 04 2012 20:43 GMT
#46157
I don't get the fascination with character development. I watch a ton of anime, read a ton of manga/novel, but I also read a ton of books, both fiction and non fiction. What I'm interested is what happened, why and how it happened, what is the result and greater consequences, backstory and motivation, cause and affect, action and reaction, relationship and interaction etc. Not that I don't care about character development but it is mighty low on the priority list.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
September 04 2012 20:54 GMT
#46158
On September 05 2012 05:43 ragz_gt wrote:
I don't get the fascination with character development. I watch a ton of anime, read a ton of manga/novel, but I also read a ton of books, both fiction and non fiction. What I'm interested is what happened, why and how it happened, what is the result and greater consequences, backstory and motivation, cause and affect, action and reaction, relationship and interaction etc. Not that I don't care about character development but it is mighty low on the priority list.


Well if a character is boring, why should I care? If you say you should just care about the story, then why is the story being told from the angle of a detestable/retarded/boring person?
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 04 2012 20:55 GMT
#46159
On September 05 2012 05:43 ragz_gt wrote:
I don't get the fascination with character development. I watch a ton of anime, read a ton of manga/novel, but I also read a ton of books, both fiction and non fiction. What I'm interested is what happened, why and how it happened, what is the result and greater consequences, backstory and motivation, cause and affect, action and reaction, relationship and interaction etc. Not that I don't care about character development but it is mighty low on the priority list.

I actually have had this discussion quite a bit, but it really depends on whether you like more plot- or character-focused stories. A bank heist movie won't have a lot of character development, but the plot (planning, execution, betrayal, etc), is generally good, for example.

I prefer character focus. I think a crappy story can be carried by good characters, while a good story can suffer hard if the characters are boring, annoying, or 2-dimensional. Which is why I enjoy (and I bring it up too much, I know) the Trigun manga, where the plot is somewhat thin and meandering, but the characters are (in my opinion) amazing and complex. Good character development not only moves the story along, but it also makes you think about your own actions and, in extreme cases, morals and ideals.
It's your boy Guzma!
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 04 2012 20:59 GMT
#46160
On September 05 2012 05:32 Recognizable wrote:
Just started watching SAO, episode 4 right now. It's alright I guess. It just goes way too fast. When people die i'm like, meh whatever.


only person to die at that point would be sachi if i remember correctly but yes that part was rushed as fuck it slows down in the following episodes before hitting the main arc in the 8th episode
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