Anime Discussion Thread - Page 2293

On August 30 2012 01:34 Zeke50100 wrote:


Liar. You want to say The Legend of Korra, don't you?

On August 30 2012 01:31 Zergneedsfood wrote:


I don't know. I haven't watched enough anime.

*effective dodge*

On August 30 2012 01:45 redoxx wrote:
My gateway was Darker Than Black. Now that I've seen more, it doesn't seem that great, but at the time it was pretty cool. DN was my second actually. I don't really get the harsh criticism it gets except for the last 1/3 with N and Mello. The rest of it was good though. No, the writing wasn't masterful and there really wasn't much in the way of interesting characters except for L and First-Half-Light, but the story was engaging and suspenceful. It was paced far better than 99% of animes, even those widely loved by devout anime fans, and had a coherent plot that didn't get mired down in unnecessary side plots that are so common in other shows that originated as serialized manga.

On August 30 2012 02:02 OutlaW- wrote:

darker than black is one of my favorite shows..

On August 30 2012 01:30 MichaelEU wrote:
On that note, what would you guys consider anime that are higher on the latter? I became a tree.

On August 30 2012 02:22 ragz_gt wrote:


anime I enjoy more than DN though can't say for certain are better:
Last exile
Haibane Renmei
Air
Noir
Gunslinger Girls
Bacanno

On August 30 2012 02:29 MichaelEU wrote:
I already edited it but too many people quoted my post. T__T

On August 30 2012 00:48 Southlight wrote:


Indeed. DN is about a guy that outwits people by having a supernatural weapon with a stacked deck of bullshit tricks that are basically impossible to guess. Like the memory eradication and such. There was one super smart guy (L) and a bunch of idiots doing convoluted tricks revolving around more and more maphack BS. I've mentioned it before and I say again, it's clear the author (mangaka) was not smart, because the most effective tricks were hashed out in the first few chapters, when L figures out Kira's locale and such. After that it became a game of silly cat and mouse revolving around the DN having extra tricks and aces and such.

Code Geass falls under the same overhyped category when it comes to actual smarts. I mean, again, the guy's got maphack and cheats his way through situations using a supernatural phenomenon. There's no actual outwitting and such here.

I didn't enjoy the anime series myself (oh the blasphemy) but a better example of actual intellectual prowess on the battlefield is Legend of Galactic Heroes. It never got fully animated by things like the Silent Service also display true yomi genius, to the point where tricks used in the Silent Service have gotten replicated in other similar ship-battle series. There are some legit, underappreciated things on the ladder of "well-thought-out, well-executed anime (and manga)" that far surpass things like DN, which get relatively lower reviews because they're always critiqued by veterans who can nitpick the finer details.

On August 30 2012 02:57 Tabbris wrote:


Ah yes I see. I just misunderstood your post but I can agree with this. I wouldnt compare DN and CG since CG makes everything up on the spot. At least DN attempted to stay within a certain boundry/rules if you know what I mean. All in all I dont think ive actually seen a "Smart" anime.

On August 30 2012 03:03 Southlight wrote:
I would recommend LoGH and Silent Service (the only two that immediately come to mind) when it comes to military genius depicted in a practical way, complete with hashed out, relatively feasible tactics. There have been others but I don't think too many stand out because, well, most authors are not actually smart enough to pull it off. Is a big reason why "hyper intelligent protagonists" and such aren't used much, in any medium, making things like Dexter quite rare. Anime is (for better or for worse) not exception to the rule, it just annoys me that people hype DN as like super intellectual anime when it's like UGGHH would you say the same for like, Suits or White Collar or stuff like that!?

On August 30 2012 05:11 Southlight wrote:
You can do more but that also means you have less of an excuse for putting out horsecrap. Except they do, and people somehow forgive them for it. I don't apologize for putting anime/manga to the same standards as TV series, movies, and books regardless of language.

On August 30 2012 05:07 Tabbris wrote:
With anime you can create a lot of fantastic situations and is way more open to creative ideas than what you can do with a regular Tv show. Making a anime "smart" isnt a writers concern I guess because there are many other ways to make a anime decent. Tv Dramas are different tho since their are a limited amount of things you can do so the ones that really stand out i.e Breaking bad The Wire ect are really smart and clever ^^.