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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 06 2012 18:31 GMT
#44841
On August 07 2012 03:01 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 00:52 Latham wrote:
SAO is so weird. I don't know if it didn't live up to my expectations, or even if I had any. But the first episode was just somehow better than the others...
It doesn't seem to have any sense of continuity. Ep.1 ---> Nice intro Ep.2 Floor Boss Ep.3 Christmas special? Ep.4 Kawaii loli episode? Ep5. Murder part1?
What exactly am I watching here? Where's the main plot? How do these side stories relate to the main plot?
Somehow, someway I feel disappointed.

Main plot probably won't start till like... episode 8 at this rate.

I'd like to think they won't be so dumb as to do Dark Repulser story before main arc.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
August 06 2012 18:54 GMT
#44842
On August 07 2012 03:31 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:01 Sentenal wrote:
On August 07 2012 00:52 Latham wrote:
SAO is so weird. I don't know if it didn't live up to my expectations, or even if I had any. But the first episode was just somehow better than the others...
It doesn't seem to have any sense of continuity. Ep.1 ---> Nice intro Ep.2 Floor Boss Ep.3 Christmas special? Ep.4 Kawaii loli episode? Ep5. Murder part1?
What exactly am I watching here? Where's the main plot? How do these side stories relate to the main plot?
Somehow, someway I feel disappointed.

Main plot probably won't start till like... episode 8 at this rate.

I'd like to think they won't be so dumb as to do Dark Repulser story before main arc.


You would like to think that, wouldn't you? ^_^

As it is right now, they might just do it. dat stupid
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 06 2012 19:01 GMT
#44843
On August 07 2012 03:54 Zeke50100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 03:31 Ecael wrote:
On August 07 2012 03:01 Sentenal wrote:
On August 07 2012 00:52 Latham wrote:
SAO is so weird. I don't know if it didn't live up to my expectations, or even if I had any. But the first episode was just somehow better than the others...
It doesn't seem to have any sense of continuity. Ep.1 ---> Nice intro Ep.2 Floor Boss Ep.3 Christmas special? Ep.4 Kawaii loli episode? Ep5. Murder part1?
What exactly am I watching here? Where's the main plot? How do these side stories relate to the main plot?
Somehow, someway I feel disappointed.

Main plot probably won't start till like... episode 8 at this rate.

I'd like to think they won't be so dumb as to do Dark Repulser story before main arc.


You would like to think that, wouldn't you? ^_^

As it is right now, they might just do it. dat stupid

I'm almost sure they will. The question will be if they do it all before the main arc or not.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
August 06 2012 19:47 GMT
#44844
Alright, Thanks guys. Probably going to get all of the above (should be enough to keep me interested for a few monthes ).
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
August 06 2012 20:03 GMT
#44845
On August 07 2012 02:30 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 01:33 FakeDeath wrote:
On August 07 2012 00:52 Latham wrote:
SAO is so weird. I don't know if it didn't live up to my expectations, or even if I had any. But the first episode was just somehow better than the others...
It doesn't seem to have any sense of continuity. Ep.1 ---> Nice intro Ep.2 Floor Boss Ep.3 Christmas special? Ep.4 Kawaii loli episode? Ep5. Murder part1?
What exactly am I watching here? Where's the main plot? How do these side stories relate to the main plot?
Somehow, someway I feel disappointed.


SAO Anime

+ Show Spoiler +
Basically, most of the episodes now are just side stories which are from SAO LN Volume 2.They cut some major part especially about Klein fighting the leader of some guild if i am not mistaken. Actually they kind of fucked up the plot progression because like you said it doesn't have a sense of continuity.People who read the LN will understand what is going on but most of the people who are fresh and dived straight into the anime will be a bit dumbfounded about the plot progression since they are jumping here and there.IMO They starting to messed up the plot.At least now it's still not that bad YET.


If you want to have a better understanding of the current anime, read up the LN of Vol.1 and 2 of SAO.
Well if you are prepared to read it then prepared to be spoiled by spoilers.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org

P.S Is Kokoro Connect good? I heard ton of good stuff about this anime in this forum?
Should i go for it?Give me a basic rundown of it's plot?

You can't ruin plot when there is no plot to ruin. What you mentioned about Klein was actually a super minor detail that doesn't even matter, they did cut a lot of other shit from that episode's source though. But yes, they are basically fitting side stories in for the sake of having them without trying to make continuity work.

The sad thing is that they do have the option to make things link together a bit better just by doing super random side stories from web and the author's doujin releases, instead they just want to cram more books in.


I guess you are right on that one since there is barely any plot.
Just wanted to state that there is no sense of continuity.
Though i hope the main plot started soon.
Play your best
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 20:18:20
August 06 2012 20:06 GMT
#44846
On August 06 2012 23:36 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 16:45 FFGenerations wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +


awww i wanna be the pink dancer tooooo


That blond kid with no eyebrows. I had the urge to punt him across a football field the whole clip. "It's stupid. The people are stupid. Stupid"


i got weirded out when some of the girls call it CARMAL . wtf is carmal, i thought it was caramel . wait hey even say it in the song. do americans not know what caramel is
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
August 06 2012 20:15 GMT
#44847
On August 07 2012 05:06 FFGenerations wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 23:36 Latham wrote:
On August 06 2012 16:45 FFGenerations wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crHfzQULoIE&feature=player_detailpage#t=124s


awww i wanna be the pink dancer tooooo


That blond kid with no eyebrows. I had the urge to punt him across a football field the whole clip. "It's stupid. The people are stupid. Stupid"


i got weirded out when some of the girls call it CARMAL . wtf is carmal, i thought it was caramel . wait hey even say it in the song

Japanese? Chinese? WHAAAT?? I guess they had no fucking idea what language it was and just yelled an asian language because of the anime like characters
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
August 06 2012 20:18 GMT
#44848
well they dont know what caramel is either
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
August 06 2012 20:37 GMT
#44849
Two things:

1: Noir worth watching?

2: Watching order for the Ghost in the Shell stuff? Seems to be like 4 movies in addition to the normal anime.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 20:51:23
August 06 2012 20:46 GMT
#44850
On August 07 2012 05:37 Maxie wrote:
Two things:

1: Noir worth watching?

2: Watching order for the Ghost in the Shell stuff? Seems to be like 4 movies in addition to the normal anime.


Yes.

Production order is fine. You could watch innocence whenever though after watching the first film.

personally I went GITS, SAC (1 and 2) sac ova innocence, laughing man. You dont really need to see laughing man, its the retelling of a first season arc (kinda), but its the best part.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
August 06 2012 21:17 GMT
#44851
So i want to go down the route of reading some translated LN's

Any suggestions? I'm going to read SAO, thining maybe bakemono?
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
August 06 2012 21:18 GMT
#44852
I'm almost done with To Aru Majutsu no Index, and I gotta say, I'm really enjoying it, especially season 2.
Index is cute, the way she says Touma is heart-melting, and she's a great comedic relief. The Anglican Church has some pretty cool people too. Kanzaki is nice.
The way Misaka has over 10K clones and how they interact with each other and other characters is funny too. Misaka herself having a crush on Touma is great too, good chemistry.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
August 06 2012 21:25 GMT
#44853
On August 07 2012 06:18 Latham wrote:
I'm almost done with To Aru Majutsu no Index, and I gotta say, I'm really enjoying it, especially season 2.
Index is cute, the way she says Touma is heart-melting, and she's a great comedic relief. The Anglican Church has some pretty cool people too. Kanzaki is nice.
The way Misaka has over 10K clones and how they interact with each other and other characters is funny too. Misaka herself having a crush on Touma is great too, good chemistry.


I like it too, though I think the magic side of it isn't as good as the science one. I watch it for Accelerator/Misaka/etc tbh.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
August 06 2012 22:11 GMT
#44854
+ Show Spoiler [Rinne no Lagrange - 17] +
Good episode was good. Lan is such a baller, stalling for dat time. She's like Sherlock Holmes. Except she's Lan. And she looks better in yuri scenes than Holmes does.

Yurikano switching Madoka seems like a big deal. Madoka is so naive, trusting Dizelmine so easily >____<
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
August 06 2012 23:22 GMT
#44855
On August 04 2012 20:12 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 20:01 Sickkiee wrote:
Reading both light vol's, I by far prefer SAO.

Although I do agree after Vol.5 it gets pretty... lame by the amount of game hopping.

However, from Vol 1 - 4, plus the side stories - it gets really good. People complaining about the side stories in the anime, if they didn't make any - you would see MASSIVE gaps in the story line/flash backs, character growth/dev etc etc.

It's really necessary for them to do the side stories first before they get onto the main story line.

Did you just call + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
ALO
good? Really?

Like, vol 1 was basically the best SAO vol for a while, that seems to get along fine. They should've either waited for Progressive to get written or be smarted and blow a 15+ episodes + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
vol 1, 2 and 8
and filled the rest with original content. By far a better draw for audience and development imo.

Also, other than Aria and the story to get aired this week, these side stories are really weak development wise.



I do agree that Vol 5+ are pretty bad - but Vol 1 - 4 were easily good reading fodder. I don't know how you rate your LN's, but I don't take them all that serious. I read it on the train as a time passer. So I was happy.

The thing is with the anime is that the people who haven't read the LN's won't understand the huge personality gaps between the characters - not to mention if they actually held to the LN there would only be like... 5-6 eps of the main story.

But I do agree original content and slower paced episodes wouldn't been far better.
Lifes too short to be small.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 06 2012 23:32 GMT
#44856
On August 07 2012 08:22 Sickkiee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 20:12 Ecael wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:01 Sickkiee wrote:
Reading both light vol's, I by far prefer SAO.

Although I do agree after Vol.5 it gets pretty... lame by the amount of game hopping.

However, from Vol 1 - 4, plus the side stories - it gets really good. People complaining about the side stories in the anime, if they didn't make any - you would see MASSIVE gaps in the story line/flash backs, character growth/dev etc etc.

It's really necessary for them to do the side stories first before they get onto the main story line.

Did you just call + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
ALO
good? Really?

Like, vol 1 was basically the best SAO vol for a while, that seems to get along fine. They should've either waited for Progressive to get written or be smarted and blow a 15+ episodes + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
vol 1, 2 and 8
and filled the rest with original content. By far a better draw for audience and development imo.

Also, other than Aria and the story to get aired this week, these side stories are really weak development wise.



I do agree that Vol 5+ are pretty bad - but Vol 1 - 4 were easily good reading fodder. I don't know how you rate your LN's, but I don't take them all that serious. I read it on the train as a time passer. So I was happy.

The thing is with the anime is that the people who haven't read the LN's won't understand the huge personality gaps between the characters - not to mention if they actually held to the LN there would only be like... 5-6 eps of the main story.

But I do agree original content and slower paced episodes wouldn't been far better.

3+ are pretty bad, 5/6 are much better than 3/4 (not that 5/6 are good either)
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 06 2012 23:38 GMT
#44857
On August 07 2012 08:22 Sickkiee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2012 20:12 Ecael wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:01 Sickkiee wrote:
Reading both light vol's, I by far prefer SAO.

Although I do agree after Vol.5 it gets pretty... lame by the amount of game hopping.

However, from Vol 1 - 4, plus the side stories - it gets really good. People complaining about the side stories in the anime, if they didn't make any - you would see MASSIVE gaps in the story line/flash backs, character growth/dev etc etc.

It's really necessary for them to do the side stories first before they get onto the main story line.

Did you just call + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
ALO
good? Really?

Like, vol 1 was basically the best SAO vol for a while, that seems to get along fine. They should've either waited for Progressive to get written or be smarted and blow a 15+ episodes + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
vol 1, 2 and 8
and filled the rest with original content. By far a better draw for audience and development imo.

Also, other than Aria and the story to get aired this week, these side stories are really weak development wise.



I do agree that Vol 5+ are pretty bad - but Vol 1 - 4 were easily good reading fodder. I don't know how you rate your LN's, but I don't take them all that serious. I read it on the train as a time passer. So I was happy.

The thing is with the anime is that the people who haven't read the LN's won't understand the huge personality gaps between the characters - not to mention if they actually held to the LN there would only be like... 5-6 eps of the main story.

But I do agree original content and slower paced episodes wouldn't been far better.

3 and 4 were the low points for me, 5~6 was eh, still bad but less time spent complaining to thin air than reading. 7 would've been passable if the character in question wasn't a plot device and we get meaningful development from earlier on (we didn't). 8 was SS, at least the one that took the most pages was pretty decent. 9 starts Alicization so back to vol1 quality.

Hard to take LNs seriously, but inability to take content seriously doesn't make shit better. Can't even really past time w/ SAO from point to point without numbing myself with other reading first. That's better than Accel World though.

As for pacing, well, idk why they aren't trying to milk the cash cow more. Take things slowly, get author collaboration, squeeze out 3 seasons. Don't even have to get actual new and original material, just use his doujins and touch them up a bit and throw in fan service as necessary. The industry already looks like they are lacking in contents so I really don't know why they don't look for more stable and long running series like SAO to animate. They certainly didn't mind going through endless seasons of ZnT and Shana, idk what's stopping them here.
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 23:43:59
August 06 2012 23:40 GMT
#44858
On August 07 2012 08:32 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 08:22 Sickkiee wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:12 Ecael wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:01 Sickkiee wrote:
Reading both light vol's, I by far prefer SAO.

Although I do agree after Vol.5 it gets pretty... lame by the amount of game hopping.

However, from Vol 1 - 4, plus the side stories - it gets really good. People complaining about the side stories in the anime, if they didn't make any - you would see MASSIVE gaps in the story line/flash backs, character growth/dev etc etc.

It's really necessary for them to do the side stories first before they get onto the main story line.

Did you just call + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
ALO
good? Really?

Like, vol 1 was basically the best SAO vol for a while, that seems to get along fine. They should've either waited for Progressive to get written or be smarted and blow a 15+ episodes + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
vol 1, 2 and 8
and filled the rest with original content. By far a better draw for audience and development imo.

Also, other than Aria and the story to get aired this week, these side stories are really weak development wise.



I do agree that Vol 5+ are pretty bad - but Vol 1 - 4 were easily good reading fodder. I don't know how you rate your LN's, but I don't take them all that serious. I read it on the train as a time passer. So I was happy.

The thing is with the anime is that the people who haven't read the LN's won't understand the huge personality gaps between the characters - not to mention if they actually held to the LN there would only be like... 5-6 eps of the main story.

But I do agree original content and slower paced episodes wouldn't been far better.

3+ are pretty bad, 5/6 are much better than 3/4 (not that 5/6 are good either)


I didn't like 5+6 more than 3+4. Then again I just wanted a small extension of the of Vol. 1 so meh. I didn't really feel satisfied with the ending of Vol. 1 so ya.

On August 07 2012 08:38 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 08:22 Sickkiee wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:12 Ecael wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:01 Sickkiee wrote:
Reading both light vol's, I by far prefer SAO.

Although I do agree after Vol.5 it gets pretty... lame by the amount of game hopping.

However, from Vol 1 - 4, plus the side stories - it gets really good. People complaining about the side stories in the anime, if they didn't make any - you would see MASSIVE gaps in the story line/flash backs, character growth/dev etc etc.

It's really necessary for them to do the side stories first before they get onto the main story line.

Did you just call + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
ALO
good? Really?

Like, vol 1 was basically the best SAO vol for a while, that seems to get along fine. They should've either waited for Progressive to get written or be smarted and blow a 15+ episodes + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
vol 1, 2 and 8
and filled the rest with original content. By far a better draw for audience and development imo.

Also, other than Aria and the story to get aired this week, these side stories are really weak development wise.



I do agree that Vol 5+ are pretty bad - but Vol 1 - 4 were easily good reading fodder. I don't know how you rate your LN's, but I don't take them all that serious. I read it on the train as a time passer. So I was happy.

The thing is with the anime is that the people who haven't read the LN's won't understand the huge personality gaps between the characters - not to mention if they actually held to the LN there would only be like... 5-6 eps of the main story.

But I do agree original content and slower paced episodes wouldn't been far better.

3 and 4 were the low points for me, 5~6 was eh, still bad but less time spent complaining to thin air than reading. 7 would've been passable if the character in question wasn't a plot device and we get meaningful development from earlier on (we didn't). 8 was SS, at least the one that took the most pages was pretty decent. 9 starts Alicization so back to vol1 quality.

Hard to take LNs seriously, but inability to take content seriously doesn't make shit better. Can't even really past time w/ SAO from point to point without numbing myself with other reading first. That's better than Accel World though.

As for pacing, well, idk why they aren't trying to milk the cash cow more. Take things slowly, get author collaboration, squeeze out 3 seasons. Don't even have to get actual new and original material, just use his doujins and touch them up a bit and throw in fan service as necessary. The industry already looks like they are lacking in contents so I really don't know why they don't look for more stable and long running series like SAO to animate. They certainly didn't mind going through endless seasons of ZnT and Shana, idk what's stopping them here.


Yeah taking LN's seriously is not the point of LN's. Then again I don't know why I read them LOL. I just find random LN's at Akiba time to time to just pass the endless hours of train rides I have for uni sigh.

I agree with you on the anime part. 3 seasons is so easy with SAO, take it slow, add in original content here and there, bit of legit char dev. There's already fan service added in in the past couple eps due to the large reception it has this season in Japan (see newest ep for dat ass). SAO is still a pretty big hit in Japan anyway, from the otaku's I talk to LOL.
Lifes too short to be small.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 23:49:51
August 06 2012 23:44 GMT
#44859
On August 07 2012 08:40 Sickkiee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 08:32 Sentenal wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:22 Sickkiee wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:12 Ecael wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:01 Sickkiee wrote:
Reading both light vol's, I by far prefer SAO.

Although I do agree after Vol.5 it gets pretty... lame by the amount of game hopping.

However, from Vol 1 - 4, plus the side stories - it gets really good. People complaining about the side stories in the anime, if they didn't make any - you would see MASSIVE gaps in the story line/flash backs, character growth/dev etc etc.

It's really necessary for them to do the side stories first before they get onto the main story line.

Did you just call + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
ALO
good? Really?

Like, vol 1 was basically the best SAO vol for a while, that seems to get along fine. They should've either waited for Progressive to get written or be smarted and blow a 15+ episodes + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
vol 1, 2 and 8
and filled the rest with original content. By far a better draw for audience and development imo.

Also, other than Aria and the story to get aired this week, these side stories are really weak development wise.



I do agree that Vol 5+ are pretty bad - but Vol 1 - 4 were easily good reading fodder. I don't know how you rate your LN's, but I don't take them all that serious. I read it on the train as a time passer. So I was happy.

The thing is with the anime is that the people who haven't read the LN's won't understand the huge personality gaps between the characters - not to mention if they actually held to the LN there would only be like... 5-6 eps of the main story.

But I do agree original content and slower paced episodes wouldn't been far better.

3+ are pretty bad, 5/6 are much better than 3/4 (not that 5/6 are good either)


I didn't like 5+6 more than 3+4. Then again I just wanted a small extension of the of Vol. 1 so meh. I didn't really feel satisfied with the ending of Vol. 1 so ya.

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 08:38 Ecael wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:22 Sickkiee wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:12 Ecael wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:01 Sickkiee wrote:
Reading both light vol's, I by far prefer SAO.

Although I do agree after Vol.5 it gets pretty... lame by the amount of game hopping.

However, from Vol 1 - 4, plus the side stories - it gets really good. People complaining about the side stories in the anime, if they didn't make any - you would see MASSIVE gaps in the story line/flash backs, character growth/dev etc etc.

It's really necessary for them to do the side stories first before they get onto the main story line.

Did you just call + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
ALO
good? Really?

Like, vol 1 was basically the best SAO vol for a while, that seems to get along fine. They should've either waited for Progressive to get written or be smarted and blow a 15+ episodes + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
vol 1, 2 and 8
and filled the rest with original content. By far a better draw for audience and development imo.

Also, other than Aria and the story to get aired this week, these side stories are really weak development wise.



I do agree that Vol 5+ are pretty bad - but Vol 1 - 4 were easily good reading fodder. I don't know how you rate your LN's, but I don't take them all that serious. I read it on the train as a time passer. So I was happy.

The thing is with the anime is that the people who haven't read the LN's won't understand the huge personality gaps between the characters - not to mention if they actually held to the LN there would only be like... 5-6 eps of the main story.

But I do agree original content and slower paced episodes wouldn't been far better.

3 and 4 were the low points for me, 5~6 was eh, still bad but less time spent complaining to thin air than reading. 7 would've been passable if the character in question wasn't a plot device and we get meaningful development from earlier on (we didn't). 8 was SS, at least the one that took the most pages was pretty decent. 9 starts Alicization so back to vol1 quality.

Hard to take LNs seriously, but inability to take content seriously doesn't make shit better. Can't even really past time w/ SAO from point to point without numbing myself with other reading first. That's better than Accel World though.

As for pacing, well, idk why they aren't trying to milk the cash cow more. Take things slowly, get author collaboration, squeeze out 3 seasons. Don't even have to get actual new and original material, just use his doujins and touch them up a bit and throw in fan service as necessary. The industry already looks like they are lacking in contents so I really don't know why they don't look for more stable and long running series like SAO to animate. They certainly didn't mind going through endless seasons of ZnT and Shana, idk what's stopping them here.


Yeah taking LN's seriously is not the point of LN's. Then again I don't know why I read them LOL. I just find random LN's at Akiba time to time to just pass the endless hours of train rides I have for uni sigh.

I agree with you on the anime part. 3 seasons is so easy with SAO, take it slow, add in original content here and there, bit of legit char dev. There's already fan service added in in the past couple eps due to the large reception it has this season in Japan (see newest ep for dat ass). SAO is still a pretty big hit in Japan anyway, from the otaku's I talk to LOL.

+ Show Spoiler [SAO] +
I wish it'd just end there, but if we really have to get all the random shit then I am fine with seeing Alicization.

How I look at Aincrad arc is that either keep it like vol1, short and sweet. Or take your time like Alicization and do like 5+ vols (given amount of themes that can be covered w/ SAO era, more probably)


And yeah idk, they have a cash cow and they refuse to milk it. It'd be good for everyone involved even.

Like, I can see worries if it is like Horizon. Super long series that will take 9 cours at least at current pace with source not even finished. But SAO? Really? If Shana can keep people watching to season 3. If ZnT can do the ummm 4 seasons that it has. SAO is like a way to print cash for the industry. I can understand doing poorly because bad, I can't understand throwing easy money away.
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On August 07 2012 08:44 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 08:40 Sickkiee wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:32 Sentenal wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:22 Sickkiee wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:12 Ecael wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:01 Sickkiee wrote:
Reading both light vol's, I by far prefer SAO.

Although I do agree after Vol.5 it gets pretty... lame by the amount of game hopping.

However, from Vol 1 - 4, plus the side stories - it gets really good. People complaining about the side stories in the anime, if they didn't make any - you would see MASSIVE gaps in the story line/flash backs, character growth/dev etc etc.

It's really necessary for them to do the side stories first before they get onto the main story line.

Did you just call + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
ALO
good? Really?

Like, vol 1 was basically the best SAO vol for a while, that seems to get along fine. They should've either waited for Progressive to get written or be smarted and blow a 15+ episodes + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
vol 1, 2 and 8
and filled the rest with original content. By far a better draw for audience and development imo.

Also, other than Aria and the story to get aired this week, these side stories are really weak development wise.



I do agree that Vol 5+ are pretty bad - but Vol 1 - 4 were easily good reading fodder. I don't know how you rate your LN's, but I don't take them all that serious. I read it on the train as a time passer. So I was happy.

The thing is with the anime is that the people who haven't read the LN's won't understand the huge personality gaps between the characters - not to mention if they actually held to the LN there would only be like... 5-6 eps of the main story.

But I do agree original content and slower paced episodes wouldn't been far better.

3+ are pretty bad, 5/6 are much better than 3/4 (not that 5/6 are good either)


I didn't like 5+6 more than 3+4. Then again I just wanted a small extension of the of Vol. 1 so meh. I didn't really feel satisfied with the ending of Vol. 1 so ya.

On August 07 2012 08:38 Ecael wrote:
On August 07 2012 08:22 Sickkiee wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:12 Ecael wrote:
On August 04 2012 20:01 Sickkiee wrote:
Reading both light vol's, I by far prefer SAO.

Although I do agree after Vol.5 it gets pretty... lame by the amount of game hopping.

However, from Vol 1 - 4, plus the side stories - it gets really good. People complaining about the side stories in the anime, if they didn't make any - you would see MASSIVE gaps in the story line/flash backs, character growth/dev etc etc.

It's really necessary for them to do the side stories first before they get onto the main story line.

Did you just call + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
ALO
good? Really?

Like, vol 1 was basically the best SAO vol for a while, that seems to get along fine. They should've either waited for Progressive to get written or be smarted and blow a 15+ episodes + Show Spoiler [SAO LNs] +
vol 1, 2 and 8
and filled the rest with original content. By far a better draw for audience and development imo.

Also, other than Aria and the story to get aired this week, these side stories are really weak development wise.



I do agree that Vol 5+ are pretty bad - but Vol 1 - 4 were easily good reading fodder. I don't know how you rate your LN's, but I don't take them all that serious. I read it on the train as a time passer. So I was happy.

The thing is with the anime is that the people who haven't read the LN's won't understand the huge personality gaps between the characters - not to mention if they actually held to the LN there would only be like... 5-6 eps of the main story.

But I do agree original content and slower paced episodes wouldn't been far better.

3 and 4 were the low points for me, 5~6 was eh, still bad but less time spent complaining to thin air than reading. 7 would've been passable if the character in question wasn't a plot device and we get meaningful development from earlier on (we didn't). 8 was SS, at least the one that took the most pages was pretty decent. 9 starts Alicization so back to vol1 quality.

Hard to take LNs seriously, but inability to take content seriously doesn't make shit better. Can't even really past time w/ SAO from point to point without numbing myself with other reading first. That's better than Accel World though.

As for pacing, well, idk why they aren't trying to milk the cash cow more. Take things slowly, get author collaboration, squeeze out 3 seasons. Don't even have to get actual new and original material, just use his doujins and touch them up a bit and throw in fan service as necessary. The industry already looks like they are lacking in contents so I really don't know why they don't look for more stable and long running series like SAO to animate. They certainly didn't mind going through endless seasons of ZnT and Shana, idk what's stopping them here.


Yeah taking LN's seriously is not the point of LN's. Then again I don't know why I read them LOL. I just find random LN's at Akiba time to time to just pass the endless hours of train rides I have for uni sigh.

I agree with you on the anime part. 3 seasons is so easy with SAO, take it slow, add in original content here and there, bit of legit char dev. There's already fan service added in in the past couple eps due to the large reception it has this season in Japan (see newest ep for dat ass). SAO is still a pretty big hit in Japan anyway, from the otaku's I talk to LOL.

+ Show Spoiler [SAO] +
I wish it'd just end there, but if we really have to get all the random shit then I am fine with seeing Alicization.

How I look at Aincrad arc is that either keep it like vol1, short and sweet. Or take your time like Alicization and do like 5+ vols (given amount of themes that can be covered w/ SAO era, more probably)


And yeah idk, they have a cash cow and they refuse to milk it. It'd be good for everyone involved even.

Like, I can see worries if it is like Horizon. Super long series that will take 9 cours at least at current pace with source not even finished. But SAO? Really? If Shana can keep people watching to season 3. If ZnT can do the ummm 4 seasons that it has. SAO is like a way to print cash for the industry. I can understand doing poorly because bad, I can't understand throwing easy money away.


+ Show Spoiler [SAO] +
Ya but it's waaaay too late now. They've already done a ton of side stories and they announced the next 3 eps so the main plot starts at like ep 8 I think with a double header and it starts off with the dual blade reveal. I think I read somewhere it may be 24/25 eps long or 12 eps not too sure lol. However going by the reception there will be a S2.


Maybe its just the company LOL. I think they are slowly realizing how good the anime is being received and may try and change it. But I personally think its a bit too late to go the proper good way to milk it. They never expected it to be such well regarded show this season compared to a couple others.
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