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Necrophantasia
Profile Joined May 2010
Japan299 Posts
January 23 2012 18:48 GMT
#35801
On January 23 2012 23:25 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 20:35 Necrophantasia wrote:
On January 23 2012 15:08 Southlight wrote:
Not really tsundere gags, just, and apologies for being a cynical asshole about this, but it feels like

80% rom com
15% thinly veiled fanservice romance
4% decent attempts at writing serious stuff but usually done by a poor, untalented writer with a lack of vocabulary and expression
0.5% genuinely good LN for people over the age of 18
0.5% good stuff, but often published by companies that don't do LNs, making it debatable whether they even fall under LNs

Incidentally shit like Nishio Ishin's stuff, Mardock Scramble, and Nasu Kinoko stuff all fall under that last 0.5%. Mardock Scramble doesn't even count as an LN under any qualification I think because it doesn't even have an anime cover :<


You're not being cynical, a lot of it's true. You do have to remember, that the primary demographic is supposed to be teenagers and people up until their early 20's.

I go to my local Tora or Animate and I see tons of light novels that pick a moe factors and write as many books that will sell:

I.e. Papakiki is wincest, High school DxD is the whole sadistic onee-san thing, etc.

It's very rare to come upon real quality, but thanks to all that garbage Japanese kids in the age group targeted for light novels are quick to embrace the good stuff.

Nishio Ishin, Haruhi (Yes, the novels are actually quite good)., etc.

Mardock Scramble isn't a light novel. It's a REAL novel. It's not so much the anime cover, but the length of the book, the language level and the themes are covered.

Mardock Scramble should be considered a real novel, but tbh the anime cover is a much better criteria than to try to separate on the two factors that you've mentioned.

Also papakiki isn't wincest at all.

EDIT - Oh yeah, by your logic shit like Bento is good. No.


I know papakiki isn't wincest, but that's not what the advertising is leading viewers and prospective readers to believe. The series is promoted as full blown wincest :S.

How does my logic mean bento is good?
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 23 2012 19:14 GMT
#35802
On January 23 2012 20:23 potchip wrote:
Who said MSV came before 0079? Where? And who the hell refers to Unicorn UC? It's always Universal Century, just because an OVA came out recently doesn't change that.

As for kits...on where do I start, I'm just going to pick some that appeared in unicorn. As for those that didnt (*yet), multiply that by 4 - there are like 10+ Zaku high mobility types alone..and you think it's a coincidence that Gundam FA and upcoming Juaggu is being released?! Regardless of they appeared in unicorn or not, the entire MSV franchise gets a boost.
For the following dozen, just notice the series name: Series: Gundam M.S.V.
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN01310 - had its 5 sec fame in unicorn
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN01304 - ditto
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN01322 - ditto
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN01331 - ditto

MG
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN955521 - ditto
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN953119 - ditto

HGUC
Too numerous to count..

As for the plot armour...I suppose animation budget was well spent compared to Zeonists who spend it all on prototype amphibious MA when they were living like rodents for years, Lolz.

What's the difference between 0080, 08MS and unicorn? The latter doesn't know it's a 6 episode OVA. The predecessors had story and characterisation to fit their format.





http://myanimelist.net/anime/6336/Mobile_Suit_Gundam_Unicorn
Alternative Titles
Synonyms: Mobile Suit Gundam UC, Kidou Senshi Gundam Unicorn
Japanese: 機動戦士ガンダムUC

Aka "Gundam UC" referring to Unicorn is perfectly acceptable, and people do in fact call it that.

Additionally, you keep saying it is a tool to reboot the MSV line, but there hasn't been a single MSV that appears in Unicorn, that also has gotten a HGUC out of it. Just the old kits from why back when (that you linked to). None of those are new, and none are part of the HGUC line. The HGUC line replaced the old, 'normal' HG line. And there are like a grand total of 3 MSV that got a HGUC entry. Garma's Zaku II, Black Tristar Zaku I, and the Gelgoog Cannon. None of which appeared in Unicorn. Unicorn is getting HGUC entries (obviously, every single gundam ever has been made to sell kits), but why bring MSV into this? If you think that Unicorn is just market MSV models, then why have they not made any for Unicorn? Sounds to me like you are complaining just for the sake of it.

As for the plot armour...I suppose animation budget was well spent compared to Zeonists who spend it all on prototype amphibious MA when they were living like rodents for years, Lolz.

What's the difference between 0080, 08MS and unicorn? The latter doesn't know it's a 6 episode OVA. The predecessors had story and characterisation to fit their format.

What am I even reading? Plot armor? This statement makes even less sense than the previous one. Are you suggesting that grunts have plot armor now? Or is you being mad that the MC wins? How is it any fucking different than old, good fights like Amuro vs Char in CCA? Or any battle in Zeta?

And then your second comment... What the fuck, Unicorn doesn't know its a 6 episode OVA? Wtf does that have to do with my point at all??? Did you even read what you are responding to? I wasn't even talking about the story differences between them. Who the fuck was talking about 0080, anyway? Not like Unicorn is any different from those, anyway (Also ignoring that 6 hour long episodes are longer than 12 20ish minute episodes).
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2585 Posts
January 23 2012 19:28 GMT
#35803
On January 23 2012 20:23 potchip wrote:
Who said MSV came before 0079? Where? And who the hell refers to Unicorn UC? It's always Universal Century, just because an OVA came out recently doesn't change that.

As for kits...on where do I start, I'm just going to pick some that appeared in unicorn. As for those that didnt (*yet), multiply that by 4 - there are like 10+ Zaku high mobility types alone..and you think it's a coincidence that Gundam FA and upcoming Juaggu is being released?! Regardless of they appeared in unicorn or not, the entire MSV franchise gets a boost.
For the following dozen, just notice the series name: Series: Gundam M.S.V.


Ok you might as well say that since Unicorn came out the entire SEED franchise is getting a boost.

People have been begging for that MG FA Gundam for years, ever since the Gear Book that detailed some of the suits in the original novelization came out, so I don't see how that relates.

As for Zaku High Mobility types... uh, duh. The most popular characters with the most popular suits in the franchise. Johnny Ridden, Ramba Ral, Char and the Black Tri-Stars Zaku's have been constantly selling ever since release, so I don't see your point.


For the following dozen, just notice the series name: Series: Gundam M.S.V.
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN01310 - had its 5 sec fame in unicorn
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN01304 - ditto
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN01322 - ditto
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN01331 - ditto

MG
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN955521 - ditto
http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN953119 - ditto



That's 6 and half of those are the same thing. If they really wanted to just cash in on MSV models I don't think they would do it on models from 1994 or 2008. They'd be new.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
January 23 2012 19:30 GMT
#35804
On January 24 2012 03:48 Necrophantasia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 23:25 Ecael wrote:
On January 23 2012 20:35 Necrophantasia wrote:
On January 23 2012 15:08 Southlight wrote:
Not really tsundere gags, just, and apologies for being a cynical asshole about this, but it feels like

80% rom com
15% thinly veiled fanservice romance
4% decent attempts at writing serious stuff but usually done by a poor, untalented writer with a lack of vocabulary and expression
0.5% genuinely good LN for people over the age of 18
0.5% good stuff, but often published by companies that don't do LNs, making it debatable whether they even fall under LNs

Incidentally shit like Nishio Ishin's stuff, Mardock Scramble, and Nasu Kinoko stuff all fall under that last 0.5%. Mardock Scramble doesn't even count as an LN under any qualification I think because it doesn't even have an anime cover :<


You're not being cynical, a lot of it's true. You do have to remember, that the primary demographic is supposed to be teenagers and people up until their early 20's.

I go to my local Tora or Animate and I see tons of light novels that pick a moe factors and write as many books that will sell:

I.e. Papakiki is wincest, High school DxD is the whole sadistic onee-san thing, etc.

It's very rare to come upon real quality, but thanks to all that garbage Japanese kids in the age group targeted for light novels are quick to embrace the good stuff.

Nishio Ishin, Haruhi (Yes, the novels are actually quite good)., etc.

Mardock Scramble isn't a light novel. It's a REAL novel. It's not so much the anime cover, but the length of the book, the language level and the themes are covered.

Mardock Scramble should be considered a real novel, but tbh the anime cover is a much better criteria than to try to separate on the two factors that you've mentioned.

Also papakiki isn't wincest at all.

EDIT - Oh yeah, by your logic shit like Bento is good. No.


I know papakiki isn't wincest, but that's not what the advertising is leading viewers and prospective readers to believe. The series is promoted as full blown wincest :S.

How does my logic mean bento is good?

thanks to all that garbage Japanese kids in the age group targeted for light novels are quick to embrace the good stuff.
followed by mentioning Haruhi practically means that anything that sells is good.

Advertisement is advertisement, and I think most Japanese readers would know that no Japanese writers have the balls to ever write actual incest for popular entertainment ever :3
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9593 Posts
January 23 2012 20:10 GMT
#35805
OMG last CP episode so good =3 here are some cute screens after the ending song:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
Awwww Len and Caster look like such a good parent/child couple. The akiha/rin/karen/azka table is great too
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
January 24 2012 00:22 GMT
#35806
+ Show Spoiler [Ano Natsu 03] +
Pretty boring episode imo. Only thing I enjoyed was when they almost showed that moe girl's skirt fly up.

Everything is already laid out as to who likes each other etc. Dunno how they can develop the plot from there. Im hoping to see a twist soon enough, cause if things keep going the way they are, I really dont see how I can stay interested.

Unless they decide to shoot a porno or kill each other with a "School Days" fashion, I feel like Im wasting my time with this series.
Skol
MichaelEU
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands816 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 00:27:33
January 24 2012 00:27 GMT
#35807
On January 24 2012 09:22 Emnjay808 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Ano Natsu 03] +
Pretty boring episode imo. Only thing I enjoyed was when they almost showed that moe girl's skirt fly up.

Everything is already laid out as to who likes each other etc. Dunno how they can develop the plot from there. Im hoping to see a twist soon enough, cause if things keep going the way they are, I really dont see how I can stay interested.

Unless they decide to shoot a porno or kill each other with a "School Days" fashion, I feel like Im wasting my time with this series.


+ Show Spoiler [Ano Natsu 03] +
I thought things were moving pretty fast after episode 2, which pleased me, but episode 3 didn't really move anything at all. I hope this pattern doesn't continue and things move a long quickly because that's what I'd like to see more in otherwise rather cliche series.

I doubt it'll go that way though, we'll get some alien plot before all that happens.

Also very sad that Kanna will get childhood friend-zoned. U-fucking-guu.
世界を革命する力を!― znf: "Michael-oniichan ( *^▽^*)ノ✩キラ✩"
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
January 24 2012 01:20 GMT
#35808
Fuck Kanna. Dumb hair equals dumb girl
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 01:37:23
January 24 2012 01:34 GMT
#35809
On January 24 2012 09:27 MichaelEU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 09:22 Emnjay808 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Ano Natsu 03] +
Pretty boring episode imo. Only thing I enjoyed was when they almost showed that moe girl's skirt fly up.

Everything is already laid out as to who likes each other etc. Dunno how they can develop the plot from there. Im hoping to see a twist soon enough, cause if things keep going the way they are, I really dont see how I can stay interested.

Unless they decide to shoot a porno or kill each other with a "School Days" fashion, I feel like Im wasting my time with this series.


+ Show Spoiler [Ano Natsu 03] +
I thought things were moving pretty fast after episode 2, which pleased me, but episode 3 didn't really move anything at all. I hope this pattern doesn't continue and things move a long quickly because that's what I'd like to see more in otherwise rather cliche series.

I doubt it'll go that way though, we'll get some alien plot before all that happens.

Also very sad that Kanna will get childhood friend-zoned. U-fucking-guu.


+ Show Spoiler +
OMG. Friend-zoned. That sucks. -___-x I'm rooting for her so hard because the main heroine is just sooooo meh.



On January 24 2012 10:20 tonight wrote:
Fuck Kanna. Dumb hair equals dumb girl


How could you say that? :[
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 24 2012 02:37 GMT
#35810
I saw that someone actually subbed Fate/Prototype. Kudos. I watched it last December, but I forgot to comment on it. Anyways, here I go:

+ Show Spoiler +

Background:
I knew from a long time ago that when Nasu first conceived the Fate/Stay Night idea, he had a female protagonist. After some discussion with other Type-Moon staff, it was changed to its current form - with a male lead (i.e. Shirou). One of the reasons was that FSN was intended as an VN and an h-game; a female lead seemed weird.

Anyway, I recall having intensive interests in this OVA. Mostly because I strongly suspected that Fate/Prototype, which is supposedly based on Nasu's original idea (i.e. female lead) of FSN, should have a Tousaka-like female lead. I wouldn't call my thought completely unjustified, since Tousaka does have some striking similarities to Shirou in FSN. This didn't happen, which was hugely disappointing. In my opinion, Tousaka is one of the most popular characters in the Fate franchise. Fate without Tousaka is simply not the same.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
January 24 2012 05:38 GMT
#35811
On January 24 2012 10:34 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 09:27 MichaelEU wrote:
On January 24 2012 09:22 Emnjay808 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Ano Natsu 03] +
Pretty boring episode imo. Only thing I enjoyed was when they almost showed that moe girl's skirt fly up.

Everything is already laid out as to who likes each other etc. Dunno how they can develop the plot from there. Im hoping to see a twist soon enough, cause if things keep going the way they are, I really dont see how I can stay interested.

Unless they decide to shoot a porno or kill each other with a "School Days" fashion, I feel like Im wasting my time with this series.


+ Show Spoiler [Ano Natsu 03] +
I thought things were moving pretty fast after episode 2, which pleased me, but episode 3 didn't really move anything at all. I hope this pattern doesn't continue and things move a long quickly because that's what I'd like to see more in otherwise rather cliche series.

I doubt it'll go that way though, we'll get some alien plot before all that happens.

Also very sad that Kanna will get childhood friend-zoned. U-fucking-guu.


+ Show Spoiler +
OMG. Friend-zoned. That sucks. -___-x I'm rooting for her so hard because the main heroine is just sooooo meh.



Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 10:20 tonight wrote:
Fuck Kanna. Dumb hair equals dumb girl


How could you say that? :[

You can judge a lot about a girl based on her hair. Well, in anime at least.
+ Show Spoiler +
Incidentally, entire main romance triangle is boring me. I'm more interested in the side romance with Mio and the other guy. Good luck Mio! Although considering how little time they're getting, I doubt anything interesting will happen. Lemon only source of entertainment atm.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
January 24 2012 06:03 GMT
#35812
On January 24 2012 14:38 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 10:34 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On January 24 2012 09:27 MichaelEU wrote:
On January 24 2012 09:22 Emnjay808 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Ano Natsu 03] +
Pretty boring episode imo. Only thing I enjoyed was when they almost showed that moe girl's skirt fly up.

Everything is already laid out as to who likes each other etc. Dunno how they can develop the plot from there. Im hoping to see a twist soon enough, cause if things keep going the way they are, I really dont see how I can stay interested.

Unless they decide to shoot a porno or kill each other with a "School Days" fashion, I feel like Im wasting my time with this series.


+ Show Spoiler [Ano Natsu 03] +
I thought things were moving pretty fast after episode 2, which pleased me, but episode 3 didn't really move anything at all. I hope this pattern doesn't continue and things move a long quickly because that's what I'd like to see more in otherwise rather cliche series.

I doubt it'll go that way though, we'll get some alien plot before all that happens.

Also very sad that Kanna will get childhood friend-zoned. U-fucking-guu.


+ Show Spoiler +
OMG. Friend-zoned. That sucks. -___-x I'm rooting for her so hard because the main heroine is just sooooo meh.



On January 24 2012 10:20 tonight wrote:
Fuck Kanna. Dumb hair equals dumb girl


How could you say that? :[

You can judge a lot about a girl based on her hair. Well, in anime at least.
+ Show Spoiler +
Incidentally, entire main romance triangle is boring me. I'm more interested in the side romance with Mio and the other guy. Good luck Mio! Although considering how little time they're getting, I doubt anything interesting will happen. Lemon only source of entertainment atm.


Heres a fun fact: http://myanimelist.net/character/54003/Mio_Kitahara

Mio is voiced by Asumi Kana. Knew I liked her for a reason ^_^
Skol
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 24 2012 06:33 GMT
#35813
Another

+ Show Spoiler +
This episode finally established what kind of series it is. Before this episode, I constantly battled over myself if anything in Another is in fact supernatural - this episode seems to tell me that.

Yukari's death was totally unexpected, but it also provides me with some information as to the level of the drama of this series.

It was nice of them to actually show Misaki's left eye (unlike certain shows... *cough* Code Geass *cough*)
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
deathray797
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
196 Posts
January 24 2012 07:23 GMT
#35814
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295216

Who else thought "KURISUUUUU!!!"?

(In case u don't get it Kurisu (Steins;Gate) stated that she specialized in Biotech or something like that)
Ushio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada868 Posts
January 24 2012 07:30 GMT
#35815
I just got around to watching Mirai Nikki and MAN IS IT GOOD. Holy crap, was not expecting this :DD

Absolutely love Gasai Yuno, one of the more interesting heroines, but I hate the wimpy male lead, same seiyuu as the main guy from deadmans wonderland, I guess it suits the character

I got your back jack, bitches be crazy
http://myanimelist.net/profile/billng
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
January 24 2012 07:33 GMT
#35816
On January 24 2012 16:23 deathray797 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295216

Who else thought "KURISUUUUU!!!"?

(In case u don't get it Kurisu (Steins;Gate) stated that she specialized in Biotech or something like that)

Actually her specialty lies more in neuroscience, though she has shown to be quite the capable physicist and engineer as well.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
January 24 2012 07:33 GMT
#35817
On January 24 2012 16:30 Ushio wrote:
I just got around to watching Mirai Nikki and MAN IS IT GOOD. Holy crap, was not expecting this :DD

Absolutely love Gasai Yuno, one of the more interesting heroines, but I hate the wimpy male lead, same seiyuu as the main guy from deadmans wonderland, I guess it suits the character

I got your back jack, bitches be crazy


All hype died with Mirai Nikki in this thread, since everyone read the manga.

Kinda discouraged me to watch it weekly. So instead I watch it in bundles of 3-4.
Skol
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
January 24 2012 08:06 GMT
#35818
look what i found

oh the memories
the courage to be a lazy bum
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 08:21:09
January 24 2012 08:20 GMT
#35819
On January 24 2012 17:06 ZoW wrote:
look what i found

oh the memories

Always someone new trying to revive Toonami. But look, Robotech is on! I can't watch this, if I do, its going to make me want to marathon the entire show. Again.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
deathray797
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
196 Posts
January 24 2012 08:30 GMT
#35820
On January 24 2012 16:33 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 16:23 deathray797 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295216

Who else thought "KURISUUUUU!!!"?

(In case u don't get it Kurisu (Steins;Gate) stated that she specialized in Biotech or something like that)

Actually her specialty lies more in neuroscience, though she has shown to be quite the capable physicist and engineer as well.


Yea thats what i meant, my bad
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