Anime Discussion Thread - Page 1594

Do any of you play Touhou games by any chance? I know there's a touhou thread, just wondering if any of you play.

On November 09 2011 22:07 Blasterion wrote:
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On November 09 2011 22:18 MoonBear wrote:

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On a side note, the new Puella film is apparently a trilogy with the first two movies being a compilation of the TV series and the third movie being stand alone. (Source)

On November 10 2011 00:57 Kupon3ss wrote:
because angst is moe ~_~
also, yuri

On November 10 2011 00:54 Ecael wrote:
What do people see in Homura, who is arguably one of the biggest failures in terms of time travelling characters?

Oh and boring personality.

11:12 ecael Okabe managed to actually accomplish shit
11:12 ecael Homura's career is a string of failures
11:12 ecael before divine intervention
11:14 MichaelEU Well, the entire point of puella magi before Madoka is that they fail.
11:14 kupon3ss_ unlimited gun works is a cool concept i suppose
11:14 ecael yeah
11:14 ecael so most of them actually have something to back it up with
11:15 ecael Homura is just this boring perpetual motion machine
11:15 kupon3ss_ funny story, somebody with 1/10 the guns
11:15 kupon3ss_ won in the moe department
11:15 MichaelEU I think every character is "boring" in a sense.
11:15 MichaelEU But they all fit tightly in the story, which makes it interesting.
11:15 MichaelEU imo
11:16 ecael well, the thing is that if you consider it in terms of story
11:16 ecael she is even worse there
11:16 ecael since other than Madoka, she is the only one with any ability to do anything
11:17 MichaelEU If Homura actually did anything that'd ruin the story.
11:17 ecael and since she didn't I am not about to like her
11:17 kupon3ss_ she did a lot
11:17 kupon3ss_ she fed madoka stats
11:17 kupon3ss_ through endless farming
11:17 ecael real powerleveling
11:17 kupon3ss_ so madoka could carry

On November 10 2011 01:30 MichaelEU wrote:
Just like I said every character is "boring" I also think they lack a lot of "personality" which, to you, makes them "less interesting". This isn't much of an issue to me however, they have just enough personality to have a drive, a drive which drives the story.

In this sense, I think Madoka isn't about the specific characters but more about the more generic character templates, which are both harder to relate to and correct for this time span. They all act as the perfect gear in the story machine.

But I must stress again, of course, that this is an opinion and nobody is right or wrong.

On November 10 2011 01:48 Blasterion wrote:

Some stories are plot driven, some are character driven. some are both

11:40 MichaelEU I'm just stressing why what everyone and their imoutos think makes Madoka a bad series
11:40 MichaelEU is actually what I think makes it a good series.
11:40 ecael ?
11:40 MichaelEU The boring part.
11:40 ecael Madoka is a bad series because of pacing
11:41 MichaelEU You'd prefer it twice as long?
11:41 ecael no
11:41 ecael it got fucked by earthquake
11:41 MichaelEU Oh
11:41 MichaelEU bleh
11:41 kupon3ss for example
11:41 MichaelEU I don't give a damn
11:42 kupon3ss homura could have been a lot better in terms of backstory
11:42 ecael it is a decent series with excellent pacing for a weekly broadcast
11:42 kupon3ss if they didn't spend an episode
11:42 kupon3ss and a montage
11:42 kupon3ss on that entire backstory
11:42 ecael they gave
11:42 ecael way too much information
11:42 kupon3ss which is pretty pivotal
11:42 ecael with Homura
11:42 ecael to make her into MC status
11:42 MichaelEU What is better? More detailed?
11:42 ecael less detailed
11:42 kupon3ss either more or less
11:42 ecael more implied
11:42 ecael well given timeframe
11:42 ecael less
11:42 kupon3ss if u want to make her mc
11:43 kupon3ss its her
11:43 kupon3ss its fine
11:43 kupon3ss or if u want her to be a plot device
11:43 kupon3ss its also fine
11:43 kupon3ss but the way they did it
11:43 ecael she got stuck as both
11:43 kupon3ss it put her in this limbo state
11:43 ecael and got the worst
11:43 ecael of the two
11:43 ecael in the movie I am sure
11:43 ecael they can do a better job
11:43 ecael portraying her as MC status
11:44 ecael but they blew so much time on Madoka already in the series
11:44 kupon3ss she has unlimited gun works and yuri tears
11:44 ecael that sudden twist for Homura
11:44 kupon3ss so its really hard
11:44 ecael is just meh
11:44 kupon3ss to not like her
11:44 ecael yeah
11:44 ecael I mean
11:44 ecael the general reception for that Homura
11:44 ecael episode
11:44 ecael was very good
11:44 ecael iirc
11:44 ecael I personally snoozed through it
11:45 ecael I think some people felt it was herp
11:45 ecael but overall
11:45 ecael they liked the angst and yuri
11:46 MichaelEU I like listening to dissenters more so than the masses.
11:46 MichaelEU (because it's interesting)
11:46 ecael quantity has a quality of its own
11:46 kupon3ss the tragedy of her character is actually quite good
11:46 MichaelEU True, but it also makes fishing out the well constructed opinions bothersome.
11:46 kupon3ss but since they brought it out
11:47 kupon3ss i'd like more than a montage kthx
11:47 kupon3ss or else just gtfo
11:47 ecael it was halfassed
11:47 ecael they could've done it better by giving it a real focus
11:47 MichaelEU I don't mind a montage but it would be better if they brought out the despair more.
11:47 ecael yes
11:47 MichaelEU Like with Sayaka.
11:47 ecael I mean
11:47 ecael they could've done better
11:48 ecael by simply omitting more information
11:48 ecael and force the audience to project what happened
11:48 ecael instead they made her MC level for the yuri
11:48 ecael and that made the whole affair relatively trivial