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OMG rofl, i KNEW that was a Kampfer poster, haha. i just shrugged it off and ignored it. =D
And thx for the welcome! im happy to be here, ive been lurking these forums for a while now, started to get into anime since 2010 Fall (most epic season imo).
In Mobile Suit Gundam, in the One Year War, the Zaku II was developed and mass produced by the Zeon. When first introduced, the main Earth Federation Space Force was made up entirely of Battleships. And the Zaku absolutely manhandled them at the Battle of Loum. There was no competition. The Zaku was created to dominate space, and the Earth Federation fleet was torn to shreds by them. But not only was the Zaku dominate in space, it was a God of Death on the Earth as well. When the Zeon invaded Earth, there was no weapon on the planet that could match them. The closest was the Type 61 MBT of the Earth Federation, but even a group of 3 Zakus were more than enough for an entire battalion of tanks. In space, the Federation quickly militarized the RB-79 Ball for at least some form of resistance to the Zaku, but they were no match. The Federation would have to try and overwhelm Zakus with numbers, in order to defeat them with Balls.
For 9 months, the Zaku was by far the most dominate force on the battlefield. However, when Amuro Ray climbed abord the RX-78-2 Gundam towards the end of the One Year War, equipped with its beam weaponry, the Zaku was completely outclassed, and would be replaced by many newer and newer mobile suits.
In the Zaku's prime, it was incredibly overpowered, or at least me and virtually everyone else on IRC says so. However, Ferrose, who is so smart and cute and knows everything, thinks that the Zaku was a piece of shit. According to his reasoning, the Zaku II was always shit. It just wasn't made apparent until the Gundam came along to show it. He claims that the Zaku wasn't incredibly fucking OP during its prime in the OYW. Who cares if it was OP vs things like Balls and Tanks? They weren't real competition! Or so he claims.
What do you guys think? Do you think that the Zaku II was always a piece of shit? Do you think that the fact that it was rendered obsolete by a suit developed in the future invalids its dominance in the past? Do you think that the fact that the Zaku dominated tanks, battleships, and Balls matters in regards to how dominate it was in its time? Do you think Boxer in his time was shit because no one back in early BW days knew how to macro?
Well I think the Zaku wasn't that good, because when it dominated and was "OP," it was as you said, fighting things like Balls and tanks. The Zaku is definitely OP against Balls and tanks and battleships and things like that, I don't think anyone can argue against that.
The Zaku established space dominance/superiority, because there was nothing else of its kind at the time. But when the RX-78-2 (or "Gundam") came along, the Zaku was easily outclassed. It couldn't compete with the other mobile suits (or suit I guess) of its own conflict, and that's why I think the Zaku is bad. It just beat up on the things it was built to counter, and couldn't hold its own against other space superiority mobile suits.
On September 09 2011 16:02 Ferrose wrote: Well I think the Zaku wasn't that good, because when it dominated and was "OP," it was as you said, fighting things like Balls and tanks. The Zaku is definitely OP against Balls and tanks and battleships and things like that, I don't think anyone can argue against that.
The Zaku established space dominance/superiority, because there was nothing else of its kind at the time. But when the RX-78-2 (or "Gundam") came along, the Zaku was easily outclassed. It couldn't compete with the other mobile suits (or suit I guess) of its own conflict, and that's why I think the Zaku is bad. It just beat up on the things it was built to counter, and couldn't hold its own against other space superiority mobile suits.
It couldn't compete with the other mobile suits during the conflict, that is true. But do you not think that is because they were much newer than the Zaku? It isn't like the Zaku and the Gundam were developed at the same time. The Zaku had seen action since the early days of the One Year War. It was the first combat mobile suit developed and used. The Gundam was made based on the Zaku's design, and was equipped with much more current (and therefore advanced) technology. It is only natural for new weapons to be superior to older, obsolete models, right? In which case, just because a unit is obsolete, what does that make it "bad"? The Musket in its time was the best weapon on earth, superior to swords and bows and such. But because more accurate, powerful guns were made later on, does that lessen their dominance during the time when they were the best? Just because the Tiger tank of WW2 is obsolete and "bad" compared to modern stuff like a Abarams tank, does that make the Tiger "bad"?
Out of boredom after finishing bakemonogatari I decided to pick something different and went with Kami-sama no Memochou. Originally I though it would be just another Tantei Yakumo, an average at best detective show, but it's a little different. Feels a bit like Durarara honestly, with all that teenager cast but I'm not quite sold on it just yet.
What is your opinion on it guys? Good? Bad? Average? Worth a DL?
On September 09 2011 14:47 Gao Xi wrote: I don't think he is trolling
really ? Omg that blog didnt like Qwaiser ? seriously ? ?!?!?!?
anyway though I was serious about No. 6. Id pick Usagi Drop over that but I stopped watching it since I blazed through the manga so for me its been the most interesting one to follow.
Its been the only show that started this summer that I looked forward to another episode where as the rest and Ive been watching like 9 or so this season were just like"o its up I guess ill watch them.. (no not hikenchou that was an obvious troll). So not amazing but entertaining enough.
On September 09 2011 19:47 Latham wrote: Out of boredom after finishing bakemonogatari I decided to pick something different and went with Kami-sama no Memochou. Originally I though it would be just another Tantei Yakumo, an average at best detective show, but it's a little different. Feels a bit like Durarara honestly, with all that teenager cast but I'm not quite sold on it just yet.
What is your opinion on it guys? Good? Bad? Average? Worth a DL?
The loli sells it to people who like Loli. Its not so much Durrara since the brilliance of Drrr and Baccano for that matter is how almost everyone is equally important in the story and get tied together. Here its just a genius loli tsundere and your average kid with a big heart and occasional sharpness scenario.
The last story was hardly even detective, you could tell what was going on a mile away and the story was pretty much solved for the viewer but they kept lengthening the issue and it made me want to pull my hair at times. I wouldnt watch it as a detective show otherwise its fine. Worth a look if you have nothing else to do. I wouldnt have marathoned it personally
On September 09 2011 16:02 Ferrose wrote: Well I think the Zaku wasn't that good, because when it dominated and was "OP," it was as you said, fighting things like Balls and tanks. The Zaku is definitely OP against Balls and tanks and battleships and things like that, I don't think anyone can argue against that.
The Zaku established space dominance/superiority, because there was nothing else of its kind at the time. But when the RX-78-2 (or "Gundam") came along, the Zaku was easily outclassed. It couldn't compete with the other mobile suits (or suit I guess) of its own conflict, and that's why I think the Zaku is bad. It just beat up on the things it was built to counter, and couldn't hold its own against other space superiority mobile suits.
RX-78-2 was the highest spec in that year, you can't compare it like that, it was the V project's main spot light along with the ship (the other two were more of a massable, better spec and more specifically designed mobile suit). Zaku showed that it is able to be massed (unlike gundam) and given what we have seen, it is highly customisable, the fundermental design also don't change too much when fight in space and earth.
On September 09 2011 19:47 Latham wrote: Out of boredom after finishing bakemonogatari I decided to pick something different and went with Kami-sama no Memochou. Originally I though it would be just another Tantei Yakumo, an average at best detective show, but it's a little different. Feels a bit like Durarara honestly, with all that teenager cast but I'm not quite sold on it just yet.
What is your opinion on it guys? Good? Bad? Average? Worth a DL?
The loli sells it to people who like Loli. Its not so much Durrara since the brilliance of Drrr and Baccano for that matter is how almost everyone is equally important in the story and get tied together. Here its just a genius loli tsundere and your average kid with a big heart and occasional sharpness scenario.
The last story was hardly even detective, you could tell what was going on a mile away and the story was pretty much solved for the viewer but they kept lengthening the issue and it made me want to pull my hair at times. I wouldnt watch it as a detective show otherwise its fine. Worth a look if you have nothing else to do. I wouldnt have marathoned it personally
Yeah I caught up to the airing episodes, and arrived at that conclusion. It's the "watch if you have time, but not really worth the disk space" anime =/ It's not bad, but also not memorable or unique enough to DL. About average I would say.
On September 09 2011 16:02 Ferrose wrote: Well I think the Zaku wasn't that good, because when it dominated and was "OP," it was as you said, fighting things like Balls and tanks. The Zaku is definitely OP against Balls and tanks and battleships and things like that, I don't think anyone can argue against that.
The Zaku established space dominance/superiority, because there was nothing else of its kind at the time. But when the RX-78-2 (or "Gundam") came along, the Zaku was easily outclassed. It couldn't compete with the other mobile suits (or suit I guess) of its own conflict, and that's why I think the Zaku is bad. It just beat up on the things it was built to counter, and couldn't hold its own against other space superiority mobile suits.
RX-78-2 was the highest spec in that year, you can't compare it like that, it was the V project's main spot light along with the ship (the other two were more of a massable, better spec and more specifically designed mobile suit). Zaku showed that it is able to be massed (unlike gundam) and given what we have seen, it is highly customisable, the fundermental design also don't change too much when fight in space and earth.
Zakus are like marines and hellions you just reactor pump them, but they "suck" or well aren't quality pieces. Gundams are like thors, require tech lab, long time, and alot of tech, but is a strong unit
On September 09 2011 19:47 Latham wrote: Out of boredom after finishing bakemonogatari I decided to pick something different and went with Kami-sama no Memochou. Originally I though it would be just another Tantei Yakumo, an average at best detective show, but it's a little different. Feels a bit like Durarara honestly, with all that teenager cast but I'm not quite sold on it just yet.
What is your opinion on it guys? Good? Bad? Average? Worth a DL?
Kamisama no Memochou sucks. Stupid story, stupid characters, stupid everything. I originally watched for the loli, then I broke down into just skipping everything that didn't have her, but I had enough of that and dropped the show after episode 8.
On September 09 2011 19:47 Latham wrote: Out of boredom after finishing bakemonogatari I decided to pick something different and went with Kami-sama no Memochou. Originally I though it would be just another Tantei Yakumo, an average at best detective show, but it's a little different. Feels a bit like Durarara honestly, with all that teenager cast but I'm not quite sold on it just yet.
What is your opinion on it guys? Good? Bad? Average? Worth a DL?
Kamisama no Memochou sucks. Stupid story, stupid characters, stupid everything. I originally watched for the loli, then I broke down into just skipping everything that didn't have her, but I had enough of that and dropped the show after episode 8.
On September 09 2011 19:47 Latham wrote: Out of boredom after finishing bakemonogatari I decided to pick something different and went with Kami-sama no Memochou. Originally I though it would be just another Tantei Yakumo, an average at best detective show, but it's a little different. Feels a bit like Durarara honestly, with all that teenager cast but I'm not quite sold on it just yet.
What is your opinion on it guys? Good? Bad? Average? Worth a DL?
Kamisama no Memochou sucks. Stupid story, stupid characters, stupid everything. I originally watched for the loli, then I broke down into just skipping everything that didn't have her, but I had enough of that and dropped the show after episode 8.
Oh Ferrose, the things you would to for lolis
Yet he didn't touch ro kyu bu at all. Clearly no passion!!
On September 09 2011 19:47 Latham wrote: Out of boredom after finishing bakemonogatari I decided to pick something different and went with Kami-sama no Memochou. Originally I though it would be just another Tantei Yakumo, an average at best detective show, but it's a little different. Feels a bit like Durarara honestly, with all that teenager cast but I'm not quite sold on it just yet.
What is your opinion on it guys? Good? Bad? Average? Worth a DL?
Kamisama no Memochou sucks. Stupid story, stupid characters, stupid everything. I originally watched for the loli, then I broke down into just skipping everything that didn't have her, but I had enough of that and dropped the show after episode 8.
Oh Ferrose, the things you would to for lolis
Yet he didn't touch ro kyu bu at all. Clearly no passion!!
Which reminds me I should write that fan fiction after all
EPT
