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Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2570 Posts
May 03 2011 17:30 GMT
#21141
On May 04 2011 02:25 Southlight wrote:
You didn't say anything Also I dunno how many people can actually see NND videos >_>

MahoYo forever Duke Nukem.


Just me and sent I think, I'm watching the video now.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
May 03 2011 17:45 GMT
#21142
On May 04 2011 01:53 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 23:26 Ecael wrote:
Well, since someone else brought it up, I guess I'll write out my thoughts about Eustia.

The game is a pretty stark contrast of all the other games so far, with a much darker theme in general. Far as I can recall, this would be the first time that August has went with a style like this, even if out of just personal preference, I'd say this is much better than Yoake and Fortune Arterial. There is little to complain about the CGs and music, at that, the music is pretty good and there be songs by Ceui~ The production value of the game is quite good, I forgot what they did with Moonlight Cradle, but the default widescreen support was pretty good to see. Feels like they took an existing engine and polished it up a lot. A bunch of silly features got added there, like mouse gestures for an eroge. Seriously. Mouse gestures.

btw you start to get used to using them, pretty scary what browsing has attuned your hands to

Now onto the more important stuff, the character and the plot. Plot progression follows the true route, branching out at points into individual route. So like in other games of this kind (cough gsen cough), early characters got screwed over. Poor Fione. People should be pleased to see Elise and some of the other heroines though, since they are pretty much of a kind that August has never done (Licia ~= Feena though I guess, but I like Licia more). In fact, Uta can contribute here about my rants on Saturday about a certain yandere in an August game. In all, the characters themselves aren't particularly novel, but all of the routes are fairly well executed (sans for two that kind of got lumped together).

Plot wise, as you can see from the setting, this falls kind of near the sekai-kei idea of things. Though less of an apocalypse coming than the dread of the city collapsing, with the group of people you are with at the beginning having the worst of it. From route to route, the perspective that you take broadens. At first, you are just an individual from the Prison area. In the end, you are looking at the fate of the city as a whole, and consequently that of humanity (this is all that's left of it). I'll elaborate more on this part as people ask questions since I can't think of anything in particular that needs to be addressed. But like I said earlier, the earlier routes suffer more, since the main developments don't really happen till you go through the story for a bit. The first 2 routes are riding solely on the personality of the characters, with the more interesting focus of the genre coming in for the routes after that. Since there is no real way to address this, I can't really say if that's good or bad. Well, I guess the usual complaint is that they can shave some of the characters out and focus more on other things. But unfortunately, August has yet to be so bold as to have less than 5 heroines with routes in a game

That's all I can think of for the moment without massive spoiler tags, if there are any questions throw them my way and I'll try to add more.

hmmm one the Heroines

I like Eris lol her character design is nice, and she has a unique personality to her character.
Eustia is well, I guess her naivety is a part of her appeal? I haven't read the whole thing so far.
The Trial version didn't really explore the Holy Maiden and her attendant of which both their names escape me, Fione, I am in to knight characters so I am slightly biased but she really reminds me of Benawi from Utawarerumono. Melt is nice too bad she is just a supporting character,
I really like Caim and Sieg though, it's rare for me to like the male cast in a VN but they're pretty awesome. =D so far I really liked the VN....


PS Torrent is so slow on the Full Version

Irene is like a more extreme version of Estelle from Yoake, but different focuses there. Eris is hilarious though, I don't think anyone would not enjoy her route, except possibly to bitch about it not being longer enough. Fione is no Benawi, though you can say she is one in making. Near the last 1/3 of the game you'll meet someone who is practically Benawi though Melt is awesome, Melt route please.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 18:07:56
May 03 2011 17:58 GMT
#21143
On May 04 2011 02:45 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 01:53 Blasterion wrote:
On May 03 2011 23:26 Ecael wrote:
Well, since someone else brought it up, I guess I'll write out my thoughts about Eustia.

The game is a pretty stark contrast of all the other games so far, with a much darker theme in general. Far as I can recall, this would be the first time that August has went with a style like this, even if out of just personal preference, I'd say this is much better than Yoake and Fortune Arterial. There is little to complain about the CGs and music, at that, the music is pretty good and there be songs by Ceui~ The production value of the game is quite good, I forgot what they did with Moonlight Cradle, but the default widescreen support was pretty good to see. Feels like they took an existing engine and polished it up a lot. A bunch of silly features got added there, like mouse gestures for an eroge. Seriously. Mouse gestures.

btw you start to get used to using them, pretty scary what browsing has attuned your hands to

Now onto the more important stuff, the character and the plot. Plot progression follows the true route, branching out at points into individual route. So like in other games of this kind (cough gsen cough), early characters got screwed over. Poor Fione. People should be pleased to see Elise and some of the other heroines though, since they are pretty much of a kind that August has never done (Licia ~= Feena though I guess, but I like Licia more). In fact, Uta can contribute here about my rants on Saturday about a certain yandere in an August game. In all, the characters themselves aren't particularly novel, but all of the routes are fairly well executed (sans for two that kind of got lumped together).

Plot wise, as you can see from the setting, this falls kind of near the sekai-kei idea of things. Though less of an apocalypse coming than the dread of the city collapsing, with the group of people you are with at the beginning having the worst of it. From route to route, the perspective that you take broadens. At first, you are just an individual from the Prison area. In the end, you are looking at the fate of the city as a whole, and consequently that of humanity (this is all that's left of it). I'll elaborate more on this part as people ask questions since I can't think of anything in particular that needs to be addressed. But like I said earlier, the earlier routes suffer more, since the main developments don't really happen till you go through the story for a bit. The first 2 routes are riding solely on the personality of the characters, with the more interesting focus of the genre coming in for the routes after that. Since there is no real way to address this, I can't really say if that's good or bad. Well, I guess the usual complaint is that they can shave some of the characters out and focus more on other things. But unfortunately, August has yet to be so bold as to have less than 5 heroines with routes in a game

That's all I can think of for the moment without massive spoiler tags, if there are any questions throw them my way and I'll try to add more.

hmmm one the Heroines

I like Eris lol her character design is nice, and she has a unique personality to her character.
Eustia is well, I guess her naivety is a part of her appeal? I haven't read the whole thing so far.
The Trial version didn't really explore the Holy Maiden and her attendant of which both their names escape me, Fione, I am in to knight characters so I am slightly biased but she really reminds me of Benawi from Utawarerumono. Melt is nice too bad she is just a supporting character,
I really like Caim and Sieg though, it's rare for me to like the male cast in a VN but they're pretty awesome. =D so far I really liked the VN....


PS Torrent is so slow on the Full Version

Irene is like a more extreme version of Estelle from Yoake, but different focuses there. Eris is hilarious though, I don't think anyone would not enjoy her route, except possibly to bitch about it not being longer enough. Fione is no Benawi, though you can say she is one in making. Near the last 1/3 of the game you'll meet someone who is practically Benawi though Melt is awesome, Melt route please.

WHY NO MELT ROUTE!!!
PS Why does Fione look almost exactly like Sendou Erika (Fortune Arterial)
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
May 03 2011 18:12 GMT
#21144
That artist's style never change that much, a lot of Eustia's expressions are like taken directly from Kanade in FA.

No Melt route because the idea of figuring out which one of Caim and Zieg had sex with her first is scary, then we throw in how Zieg's dad first slept with her, then paid for her debts and wedded her.

btw even then I'd like a Melt route.
Enderbantoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States465 Posts
May 03 2011 18:14 GMT
#21145
earlier i asked about animes to watch, and i took your advice and watched TTGL, and then i just watched all of Soul Eater, and i LOVED THEM!, especially soul eater!, i was wondering if there are any other light hearted badass animes out there. I especially loved the academy aspect of soul eater. thanks in advance!
At the biggest upset of all of bw, Shanghai SPL finals 2011
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 03 2011 18:14 GMT
#21146
On May 04 2011 03:12 Ecael wrote:
That artist's style never change that much, a lot of Eustia's expressions are like taken directly from Kanade in FA.

No Melt route because the idea of figuring out which one of Caim and Zieg had sex with her first is scary, then we throw in how Zieg's dad first slept with her, then paid for her debts and wedded her.

btw even then I'd like a Melt route.

lol ZIeg, he's one of the better side kicks, one that's not there just to be a jester
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 19:42:34
May 03 2011 19:41 GMT
#21147
+ Show Spoiler [TWGOK 2-4] +
NEURAL PARASITE

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LOL I love these things:

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Not to sound like a manga elitist, but I liked the air hug scene thing more in the manga. D:

Also loved how they added Keima getting stepped on when he was lurking around.

Kankei nai desuyooooo~--umph!


Judging by the art for the next ep preview, 2-5 will be introducing Haqua's buddy, as expected. This should be good lolol
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
May 03 2011 19:41 GMT
#21148
I saw few pages back you guys talking about TWOGK. I don't know why "Divine One" translation is even a complaint? That is not something that is going to stop me from reading it from a certain subber. Also, didn't much care for this weeks since it was a little too much action. (Yeah, action in this show, what?) Still, enjoyable enough. Probably still one of the ones I care about week to week.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
May 03 2011 19:52 GMT
#21149
On May 04 2011 04:41 tonight wrote:
I saw few pages back you guys talking about TWOGK. I don't know why "Divine One" translation is even a complaint? That is not something that is going to stop me from reading it from a certain subber.


Spazer said it much more eloquently than I could:


On May 03 2011 10:32 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 10:11 Sentenal wrote:
On May 03 2011 10:09 Ferrose wrote:
On May 03 2011 10:08 Sentenal wrote:
On May 03 2011 10:02 Ferrose wrote:
On May 03 2011 09:57 DCLXVI wrote:
Why is there no talk of TWGOK? is everyone on tladt?


I'm waiting for Chihiro's release. I can't get over the fact that Crunchy translates "Kami-nii-sama" as "Divine One" or "Divine Brother." Who the fuck refers to their brother as "Divine One?" And we can't talk about the manga since there's no new chapter this week

@ Blobskillz: Probably like 4-5 weeks until Jun still

Kami is "God", and "nii-sama" is a brother you strongly respect, so whats wrong with that translation?


I don't know what you should write it as in the subs. But all I know is, "Divine Brother" sounds utterly retarded. Keima is God. Not a monk.

They mean the exact same thing, but because one sounds like "moon moon moon", its acceptable??

Kami nii-sama does not carry any connotation in English, and is, for all intents and purposes, a name. God and brother both carry connotation because both words are well known English words. Thus, the former does not sound awkward, and the latter does.

Speaking from a technical standpoint though, kami nii-sama is not a translation at all.


On May 04 2011 04:41 tonight wrote:
Also, didn't much care for this weeks since it was a little too much action. (Yeah, action in this show, what?) Still, enjoyable enough. Probably still one of the ones I care about week to week.


It's a Haqua episode. Who cares about the content
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
May 03 2011 20:03 GMT
#21150
Well, let's say it like this then. We are English so we shouldn't care I've seen subs where they would just say Kami nii-sama and that's fine with me and some where it says "God" and some with "Divine One". I have no issues with reading it any one of those ways, but maybe it's just because I'm not picky.

Also, don't get me wrong I love me some Haqua, but I'd rather see some capturing of the girls than some big nasty blob.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
May 03 2011 20:07 GMT
#21151
While it's true that Haqua's arc didn't involve a conquest, they technically still captured a runaway spirit ;P

Also, been reading the MAL thread for the episode. People saying things like "finally some plot in this series."

LOL
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
May 03 2011 20:37 GMT
#21152
On May 04 2011 05:07 Ferrose wrote:
While it's true that Haqua's arc didn't involve a conquest, they technically still captured a runaway spirit ;P

Also, been reading the MAL thread for the episode. People saying things like "finally some plot in this series."

LOL


But isn't like 90% of the joke from them poking fun at stereotypes in anime?

Personally that's when i think the show is actually funny and last episode i felt like it was taking itself a bit too seriously and i didn't find it very good. When it's trying to be it's own show it fails horribly imo. It shouldn't try to be it's own show it's should do what it's basically designed to, poke fun of anime stereotypes.

The weak plot to kick it all off only makes it that much better of a parody of the many shows that try to pass such a story off straight faced with even weaker setups. If it tries to be it's own show it kind of becomes what it set out to parody.


Anyway i didn't feel much for this last ep and the one before that. Whenever it tries to just be comedy i don't find it very funny. When it's poking fun of anime in general it generally evokes a laugh or two.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 20:47:29
May 03 2011 20:46 GMT
#21153
On May 04 2011 05:37 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 05:07 Ferrose wrote:
While it's true that Haqua's arc didn't involve a conquest, they technically still captured a runaway spirit ;P

Also, been reading the MAL thread for the episode. People saying things like "finally some plot in this series."

LOL


But isn't like 90% of the joke from them poking fun at stereotypes in anime?

Personally that's when i think the show is actually funny and last episode i felt like it was taking itself a bit too seriously and i didn't find it very good. When it's trying to be it's own show it fails horribly imo. It shouldn't try to be it's own show it's should do what it's basically designed to, poke fun of anime stereotypes.

The weak plot to kick it all off only makes it that much better of a parody of the many shows that try to pass such a story off straight faced with even weaker setups. If it tries to be it's own show it kind of becomes what it set out to parody.


Anyway i didn't feel much for this last ep and the one before that. Whenever it tries to just be comedy i don't find it very funny. When it's poking fun of anime in general it generally evokes a laugh or two.


Yeah, the series is basically making fun of anime/VN/dating sims. Like how every ep/chapter is called a flag, and Keima's speech mannerisms (conquests, heroines, routes, etc.). Also how he captures each girl using the knowledge he got from playing dating sims. It's pretty lulzy.

For everything else, I will spoiler it:

+ Show Spoiler [TWGOK manga] +
The point of Haqua's arc was to show another demon from the Runaway Spirit Squad, explain more about the runaway spirits (the stuff about old Hell and new Hell, etc.), and to develop Elsea, since she always felt like she was useless.

Also TWGOK manga eventually does have a real plot, and it's a pretty good one so far, I have to admit.


You have a point that the end of the Haqua arc was "too serious" and that it wasn't as good as the rest of the series so far, but as I said, "it's a Haqua episode. Who cares about the content "
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 03 2011 20:47 GMT
#21154
[16:44] <@Kaal> BR: Plus it's always been illegal
[16:44] <@Kaal> since 2007
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[16:44] <Seki> i just imagined ferrose going
[16:44] <Caller__> holy shit
[16:44] <Caller__> fucking irc
[16:44] <Seki> EVEN THO IT'S ILLEGAL
[16:44] <Seki> I STILL LOVE THEM
[16:44] <@Kaal> so many callers.
[16:44] <@Kaal> LOL
[16:44] == Nickname is already in use: CALLER
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[16:44] <dronebabo> ya u could substitute everythin he said
[16:45] <dronebabo> and it would make sense..
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[16:45] *nickserv* ghost seki <you no see dis>
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[16:45] -NickServ- Ghost with your nick has been killed.
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[16:45] <Caller__> derp
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[16:45] <Ferrose_> ok
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MichaelEU
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands816 Posts
May 03 2011 20:56 GMT
#21155
TWGOK does many things with its stereotypes. Not just parodying, but also subverting and embracing them. The author explains those things in the omake and they're a pretty fun read. I don't think poking fun at the stereotypes has ever been its sole reason for existence. It sets out to evolve these stereotypes into something that feels the same but is slightly different.
世界を革命する力を!― znf: "Michael-oniichan ( *^▽^*)ノ✩キラ✩"
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
May 03 2011 21:16 GMT
#21156
On May 04 2011 05:56 MichaelEU wrote:
TWGOK does many things with its stereotypes. Not just parodying, but also subverting and embracing them. The author explains those things in the omake and they're a pretty fun read. I don't think poking fun at the stereotypes has ever been its sole reason for existence. It sets out to evolve these stereotypes into something that feels the same but is slightly different.


I strongly agree with that last sentence. Even though it's parodying quite a bit it doesn't feel like like through and through. It still has it's own feel with the characters and each "arc".
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
May 03 2011 21:31 GMT
#21157
On May 04 2011 06:16 tonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 05:56 MichaelEU wrote:
TWGOK does many things with its stereotypes. Not just parodying, but also subverting and embracing them. The author explains those things in the omake and they're a pretty fun read. I don't think poking fun at the stereotypes has ever been its sole reason for existence. It sets out to evolve these stereotypes into something that feels the same but is slightly different.


I strongly agree with that last sentence. Even though it's parodying quite a bit it doesn't feel like like through and through. It still has it's own feel with the characters and each "arc".


Yeah. Most of the girls represent some archetype (like Mio is a rich tsundere, Shiori is the shy library girl, etc.), but as their arc progresses there's more than what you see on the surface, and each girl actually ends up being pretty unique and (most of them) become loveable.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
May 03 2011 23:11 GMT
#21158
+ Show Spoiler [Steins;Gate 5] +
So Rintarou plans to turn the Phone Microwave (name subject to change) into a time machine in the present (obviously before SERN in 2036 or whatever). But how will he change the ruling structure of the world? Will he keep it as is? Make himself the ruler? Will SERN stop him? I just hope he doesn't turn into a douchebag like Lelouch.

Also Suzuha seems to know some stuff that we don't. But I think it's safe to say now, that SERN's plot isn't just Rintarou's insanity anymore. They actually transported people back in time. But it seems those 14 all died in the process. "Mismatches," they were called. Maybe John Titor was a match? I also think that the Alpacaman will play some major role later on in the story. It's too creepy to just be there for the lulz.

Now I'm sad when this show ends every week. The pacing is great and I want to know what happens next @_@


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I love this guy more and more with each passing second. I want to walk around in a t-shirt, khaki pants, and a labcoat while drinking Dr. Pepper, laughing maniacally now.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
May 03 2011 23:49 GMT
#21159
On May 04 2011 08:11 Ferrose wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Steins;Gate 5] +
So Rintarou plans to turn the Phone Microwave (name subject to change) into a time machine in the present (obviously before SERN in 2036 or whatever). But how will he change the ruling structure of the world? Will he keep it as is? Make himself the ruler? Will SERN stop him? I just hope he doesn't turn into a douchebag like Lelouch.

Also Suzuha seems to know some stuff that we don't. But I think it's safe to say now, that SERN's plot isn't just Rintarou's insanity anymore. They actually transported people back in time. But it seems those 14 all died in the process. "Mismatches," they were called. Maybe John Titor was a match? I also think that the Alpacaman will play some major role later on in the story. It's too creepy to just be there for the lulz.

Now I'm sad when this show ends every week. The pacing is great and I want to know what happens next @_@


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I love this guy more and more with each passing second. I want to walk around in a t-shirt, khaki pants, and a labcoat while drinking Dr. Pepper, laughing maniacally now.



Each episode I like the show more and more. I actually wanted to drop it after the first EP. By the 2nd I started to come around and after the 3rd I was in it.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 03 2011 23:52 GMT
#21160
Hmm....I don't know if I should continue Stein....maybe one more episode. ><
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