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ElizarTringov
Bulgaria317 Posts
On September 14 2014 15:11 Sentenal wrote: How does being the exception test the truth, validity, or genuineness of the rule? I just explained it numerous times, if you don't get it by now then you just won't get it no matter how many more times I explain it. User was warned for this post | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On September 14 2014 15:13 ElizarTringov wrote: I just explained it numerous times, if you don't get it by now then you just won't get it no matter how many more times I explain it. Actually, you haven't even explained it once. How does an exception existing test the truth of a rule/generalization? User was warned for this post | ||
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ElizarTringov
Bulgaria317 Posts
On September 14 2014 15:14 Sentenal wrote: Actually, you haven't even explained it once. How does an exception existing test the truth of a rule/generalization? Yes I did. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
Copy/paste it for me, since I must have missed you explaining how an exception existing proves a generalization to be true. | ||
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RenSC2
United States1102 Posts
If you don't accept that a woman weightlifter is an exception, then you are rejecting the premise that men are stronger than women and therefore it is not an exception to prove the rule. It works for strict rules as well as rules of thumb. However, it's really in the eye of the beholder. So the argument is moot and can we please move on? There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that Dragon has Haki. His father has massive Haki, so does his son. He has a massive bounty, which is a good indicator of power (but could potentially only be for political reasons). He is likely the one who taught Sabo the "Dragon Claw" technique, which seems to be haki based (or else something even more powerful). Smoker completely backed down when confronted by Dragon, which would be odd for a logia against someone who didn't have haki. There is certainly a lot of evidence, but no conclusive proof yet. I think it's a good assumption that Dragon has Haki (and probably Conqueror's haki), but it's still just an assumption. I think it's a strong enough assumption that we can discuss Dragon with that assumption in mind because making that very likely assumption helps understand the characters a little better. It's not like it's just some wild speculation. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On September 14 2014 15:13 ElizarTringov wrote: I just explained it numerous times, if you don't get it by now then you just won't get it no matter how many more times I explain it. Its like your argument that it is impossible that Dragon does not have haki. Because you've explained it a lot of times and everyone disagrees with you, you assume everyone fails to see your argument. We all see it and think its bad. Also WTF is this conversation; its barely tangentially related to One Piece. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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vndestiny
Singapore3475 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8943 Posts
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
We will say "remember that time when there was an argument about Dragon's haki rule?" and then the next guy will replay "I preferred the rokushiki is haki debate, it was longer and funnier." edit: And about rules: Rules come from authority. In One Piece that means Oda or a character in the manga has to say it, for it to be a rule. I could say all strong people have a straw hat and point to Gol D. Roger, Shanks and Luffy. All other people are just exceptions. (This is obviously nonsense) I wonder if Luffy will break his rule of never punching the bad guy in the face again. Luffy never punches the bad guy, unless he decides to it anyway. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On September 14 2014 22:08 Incognoto wrote: Saw 3+ new pages in this thread, thought Oda published a freebie chapter or something. Silly me, if that had happened we'd have had way more than just 3 new pages. Hahaha. That's priceless. If more than 2 days after chapter release there are 50+ new posts, it's some kind of discussion. One Piece discussions are still more interesting than any other series discussions on TL I know of. :D | ||
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MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
On September 14 2014 16:41 vndestiny wrote: Well my subscribed threads page showed 67 unread posts. Little did I know =/ Not even any Enel  | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Chro
United States240 Posts
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goody153
44313 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Can't use Haki. come off it | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
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Mensol
14536 Posts
1.Rokushiki is Haki. 2.Enel is the strongest OP character. 3.Franky is stronger than Sanji. 4.Dragon can't use haki. | ||
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