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Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
November 03 2018 07:34 GMT
#29521
I still don't get the thought process you guys have in underrating admirals. Hello? Luffy and Zoro still haven't had a proper chance to fight admirals... Oda is intentionally saving admirals,blackbeard,shanks,mihawk in very very far future as they are top tiers zoro/luffy must overcome in the end so zoro could becoem above admiral level and luffy can become PK level. It's painfully obvious. How is it that luffy's future opponent (akainu) might only be someone who can get easy diffed by a yonko?
Life is just life
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 03 2018 07:55 GMT
#29522
On November 03 2018 08:22 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 07:04 Elerris wrote:
Carrying on from the 'Luffy has never been this outclassed discussion', versus people like Crocodile and Katakuri at the start, he was outclassed because his attacks couldn't even hit his opponents, but once they did they did damage. Vs Kaidou Luffy just unloaded his strongest attacks which made full contact and did absolutely nothing. Makes me wonder what kind of strength/powers Luffy will need to obtain before he could even hurt Kaidou, let alone damage him to the point of defeat.

IDK, Kaido certainly looked like he took those hits and oofed quite a few times.

I'm pretty sure Kaido (and Jack's) main strength is their tenacity and to keep going after taking damage. All of Jack's fights hes just taken hit after hit and gotten knocked all over the place, and then he just stands back up afterwards and keeps going. And now Kaido is doing like a bigger version of that.


If you go back to when Kaido made his first appearance, that's exactly how he was described. It says he was defeated and captured multiple times but nobody could kill him and he ultimately won out because of that.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 03 2018 08:45 GMT
#29523
Enel could use electricity to stop Kaido's heart. gg
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
November 03 2018 12:05 GMT
#29524
Can we just appreciate though what a terrible horrible no good very bad birthday Tama has been having?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 03 2018 17:28 GMT
#29525
On November 03 2018 21:05 Elentos wrote:
Can we just appreciate though what a terrible horrible no good very bad birthday Tama has been having?

true, completely forgot about her
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 17:31:50
November 03 2018 17:31 GMT
#29526
On November 03 2018 08:02 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 05:31 Mensol wrote:
On November 03 2018 04:58 Makro wrote:
look, speaking of fujitora, i think that a dude who can send you an asteroid coming right from space and level a whole country can hold his ground against big mom

im talking about Fujitora who cant escape Doflamingo's cage Also the one who both Luffy and Sabo had comfortably 1v1's.


I’m talking about Fujitora who didn’t even try at all. Is flash not a god for sparring vs foreign players by not trying?

See? you are making assumptions while im talking about facts.

He even tried to open a hole on the cage with his meteors lmao. Oda made it clear at Dressrosa that Luffy can hold himself against Admirals even tho he is still not there to beat them, and Sabo is on admiral level.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
November 03 2018 22:21 GMT
#29527
Oda made it clear at Dressrosa that Luffy can hold himself against Admirals even tho he is still not there to beat them, and Sabo is on admiral level.

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Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
November 04 2018 02:38 GMT
#29528
On November 04 2018 02:31 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 08:02 Shinokuki wrote:
On November 03 2018 05:31 Mensol wrote:
On November 03 2018 04:58 Makro wrote:
look, speaking of fujitora, i think that a dude who can send you an asteroid coming right from space and level a whole country can hold his ground against big mom

im talking about Fujitora who cant escape Doflamingo's cage Also the one who both Luffy and Sabo had comfortably 1v1's.


I’m talking about Fujitora who didn’t even try at all. Is flash not a god for sparring vs foreign players by not trying?

See? you are making assumptions while im talking about facts.

He even tried to open a hole on the cage with his meteors lmao. Oda made it clear at Dressrosa that Luffy can hold himself against Admirals even tho he is still not there to beat them, and Sabo is on admiral level.


Luffy straight up told fujitora he's not ready yet and fujitora was literally about to slaughter everyone with island sized rubbles and that was only 20% of his gravity power as said by fujitora himself. I really want Kizaru to come and stand still kaido more now. It's getting ridiculous this admiral hate.
Life is just life
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
November 04 2018 15:28 GMT
#29529
Power level discussions \o/
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-04 19:34:50
November 04 2018 19:32 GMT
#29530
On November 04 2018 11:38 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 02:31 Mensol wrote:
On November 03 2018 08:02 Shinokuki wrote:
On November 03 2018 05:31 Mensol wrote:
On November 03 2018 04:58 Makro wrote:
look, speaking of fujitora, i think that a dude who can send you an asteroid coming right from space and level a whole country can hold his ground against big mom

im talking about Fujitora who cant escape Doflamingo's cage Also the one who both Luffy and Sabo had comfortably 1v1's.


I’m talking about Fujitora who didn’t even try at all. Is flash not a god for sparring vs foreign players by not trying?

See? you are making assumptions while im talking about facts.

He even tried to open a hole on the cage with his meteors lmao. Oda made it clear at Dressrosa that Luffy can hold himself against Admirals even tho he is still not there to beat them, and Sabo is on admiral level.


Luffy straight up told fujitora he's not ready yet and fujitora was literally about to slaughter everyone with island sized rubbles and that was only 20% of his gravity power as said by fujitora himself. I really want Kizaru to come and stand still kaido more now. It's getting ridiculous this admiral hate.

He havent said such thing lmfao. He actually said "I would have done (running away) that until two years ago but not anymore", which Oda clearly indicates that Luffy can hold himself against Admirals after time-skip.

Of course its another story if you think Oda is wrong. Theres no such thing as admiral hate, if anything there is admiral fanboyism from you.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
November 04 2018 19:42 GMT
#29531
On November 05 2018 04:32 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 11:38 Shinokuki wrote:
On November 04 2018 02:31 Mensol wrote:
On November 03 2018 08:02 Shinokuki wrote:
On November 03 2018 05:31 Mensol wrote:
On November 03 2018 04:58 Makro wrote:
look, speaking of fujitora, i think that a dude who can send you an asteroid coming right from space and level a whole country can hold his ground against big mom

im talking about Fujitora who cant escape Doflamingo's cage Also the one who both Luffy and Sabo had comfortably 1v1's.


I’m talking about Fujitora who didn’t even try at all. Is flash not a god for sparring vs foreign players by not trying?

See? you are making assumptions while im talking about facts.

He even tried to open a hole on the cage with his meteors lmao. Oda made it clear at Dressrosa that Luffy can hold himself against Admirals even tho he is still not there to beat them, and Sabo is on admiral level.


Luffy straight up told fujitora he's not ready yet and fujitora was literally about to slaughter everyone with island sized rubbles and that was only 20% of his gravity power as said by fujitora himself. I really want Kizaru to come and stand still kaido more now. It's getting ridiculous this admiral hate.

He havent said such thing lmfao. He actually said "I would have done (running away) that until two years ago but not anymore", which Oda clearly indicates that Luffy can hold himself against Admirals after time-skip.

Of course its another story if you think Oda is wrong. Theres no such thing as admiral hate, if anything there is admiral fanboyism from you.

Luffy also just attacked Kaido thinking he could win so Luffy challenging an admiral doesn't mean they're on the same level.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 04 2018 20:30 GMT
#29532
On November 05 2018 04:42 MajuGarzett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2018 04:32 Mensol wrote:
On November 04 2018 11:38 Shinokuki wrote:
On November 04 2018 02:31 Mensol wrote:
On November 03 2018 08:02 Shinokuki wrote:
On November 03 2018 05:31 Mensol wrote:
On November 03 2018 04:58 Makro wrote:
look, speaking of fujitora, i think that a dude who can send you an asteroid coming right from space and level a whole country can hold his ground against big mom

im talking about Fujitora who cant escape Doflamingo's cage Also the one who both Luffy and Sabo had comfortably 1v1's.


I’m talking about Fujitora who didn’t even try at all. Is flash not a god for sparring vs foreign players by not trying?

See? you are making assumptions while im talking about facts.

He even tried to open a hole on the cage with his meteors lmao. Oda made it clear at Dressrosa that Luffy can hold himself against Admirals even tho he is still not there to beat them, and Sabo is on admiral level.


Luffy straight up told fujitora he's not ready yet and fujitora was literally about to slaughter everyone with island sized rubbles and that was only 20% of his gravity power as said by fujitora himself. I really want Kizaru to come and stand still kaido more now. It's getting ridiculous this admiral hate.

He havent said such thing lmfao. He actually said "I would have done (running away) that until two years ago but not anymore", which Oda clearly indicates that Luffy can hold himself against Admirals after time-skip.

Of course its another story if you think Oda is wrong. Theres no such thing as admiral hate, if anything there is admiral fanboyism from you.

Luffy also just attacked Kaido thinking he could win so Luffy challenging an admiral doesn't mean they're on the same level.

Yeah, Luffy has challenged an admiral, has shown to capable of holding himself. And then he has challenged against two Yonkous with his Gear fourth, which is his strongest move, and wasnt able to hurt them at all. As you see, Oda is no shy when he is showing the difference in terms of power.

Then there is an example of Doflamingo, who has openly shown his desire to fight with Fujitora after he deals with Luffy and Law. The same Doflamingo who has scared shitless when Law mentioned that Kaidou would come after him if he doesnt produce smiles anymore.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
November 04 2018 20:57 GMT
#29533
On November 05 2018 05:30 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2018 04:42 MajuGarzett wrote:
On November 05 2018 04:32 Mensol wrote:
On November 04 2018 11:38 Shinokuki wrote:
On November 04 2018 02:31 Mensol wrote:
On November 03 2018 08:02 Shinokuki wrote:
On November 03 2018 05:31 Mensol wrote:
On November 03 2018 04:58 Makro wrote:
look, speaking of fujitora, i think that a dude who can send you an asteroid coming right from space and level a whole country can hold his ground against big mom

im talking about Fujitora who cant escape Doflamingo's cage Also the one who both Luffy and Sabo had comfortably 1v1's.


I’m talking about Fujitora who didn’t even try at all. Is flash not a god for sparring vs foreign players by not trying?

See? you are making assumptions while im talking about facts.

He even tried to open a hole on the cage with his meteors lmao. Oda made it clear at Dressrosa that Luffy can hold himself against Admirals even tho he is still not there to beat them, and Sabo is on admiral level.


Luffy straight up told fujitora he's not ready yet and fujitora was literally about to slaughter everyone with island sized rubbles and that was only 20% of his gravity power as said by fujitora himself. I really want Kizaru to come and stand still kaido more now. It's getting ridiculous this admiral hate.

He havent said such thing lmfao. He actually said "I would have done (running away) that until two years ago but not anymore", which Oda clearly indicates that Luffy can hold himself against Admirals after time-skip.

Of course its another story if you think Oda is wrong. Theres no such thing as admiral hate, if anything there is admiral fanboyism from you.

Luffy also just attacked Kaido thinking he could win so Luffy challenging an admiral doesn't mean they're on the same level.

Yeah, Luffy has challenged an admiral, has shown to capable of holding himself. And then he has challenged against two Yonkous with his Gear fourth, which is his strongest move, and wasnt able to hurt them at all. As you see, Oda is no shy when he is showing the difference in terms of power.

Then there is an example of Doflamingo, who has openly shown his desire to fight with Fujitora after he deals with Luffy and Law. The same Doflamingo who has scared shitless when Law mentioned that Kaidou would come after him if he doesnt produce smiles anymore.


Let me quote that 20% power when I get home. Also fujitora didn’t try like I said and big mom/kaido either used haki or names attack on luffy. Fuji didn’t even use haki.
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-05 10:57:32
November 05 2018 10:53 GMT
#29534
"too weak, too slow" - magnus carlsen


€: Luffy is close to admiral level, probably 80% of the way there imo - i'd put Katakuri even with the admirals "yes, i know Luffy "beat" Katakuri, but i'm convinced Katakuri is stronger, he kind of let luffy win cuz he foresaw his path to pirate king". Kaido is a completely different beast
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 06 2018 01:19 GMT
#29535
Id also say Luffy is on Admiral level already. There are 3 so per formula they wont be his enemy, Akainu will be and hes a good bit stronger. So admirals are most likely for sanji/zorro and maybe jinbei.

Speaking about Kaido though, if he is on a complete different level how many in-between-enemies does oda have to come up with to bridge that gap? Any as of yet unknown names id consider asspulls. We still have
Kaido
Big Mom
Black Beard
Admirals + Akainu
Gorosei(?) not sure if they are fighters
vegapunk + That IM king dude

Of those id say Kaido HAS to be the weakest despite all the hype.
We still have the fruit awakening to go but any more gears and op will seriously start to degenerate into dragon ball. And if Luffy has to beat the second in commands to power up, as he did with Katakuri, where does that leave Zorro.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 06 2018 03:52 GMT
#29536
There isn't any rule that says that One Piece has to follow the old "classic" One Piece formula. It sure hasn't in a long time, thats for sure
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18624 Posts
November 06 2018 10:39 GMT
#29537
I dont' think that Luffy will ever have to face Big Mom again. She is "defeated" in a sense that the strawhats dont need to do anything with her ever again
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 06 2018 11:33 GMT
#29538
On November 06 2018 19:39 sharkie wrote:
I dont' think that Luffy will ever have to face Big Mom again. She is "defeated" in a sense that the strawhats dont need to do anything with her ever again

Theory on reddit is that we meet her on Elbaf. She has that giant thing going on and she certainly wants revenge on Luffy.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 06 2018 15:24 GMT
#29539
Big Mom was shown talking to Kaido (about SH too I believe), it's guaranteed she will make another major appearance before the final arc of the series.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
November 06 2018 16:28 GMT
#29540
On November 07 2018 00:24 Ej_ wrote:
Big Mom was shown talking to Kaido (about SH too I believe), it's guaranteed she will make another major appearance before the final arc of the series.

Yeah she told Kaido she was coming to his territory to personally kill Luffy.
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