[Manga] One Piece - Page 1479

On November 15 2018 02:01 WonnaPlay wrote:


I'm still not sure where to put the revolutionaries in this. Or rather just Monkey D. Dragon himself.

On November 15 2018 08:45 Mensol wrote:

I would be disappointed if he is not as strong as Akainu. His supposed DF Kaze Kaze No Mi is a no joke by any means, it can be compared with Gura Gura No Mi fruit in terms of destruction.

1. Yonkou level (Kaidou, Big Mom, Shanks, BB)
2. Fleet-Admiral level (Akainu, Monkey D. Dragon, Mihawk)
3. Admirals and strongest commanders (Kizaru, Fujitora, Ryokugyu, Aokiji, Marco, Katakuri, Benn Beckman one of King/Queen and Sabo)

I guess you can argue that Aokiji is borderline fleet admiral level, and Mihawk is inbetween yonkou and fleet-Admiral level. Worth to mention that i didnt include likes Sengoku, Garp and Rayleigh since they are not active anymore.

On November 15 2018 10:22 Shinokuki wrote:


Recent vivre card shows Akainu has the highest peak attack power among all
df users. Also with the fact that oda has specifically pointed out that he is so strong he can find one piece in 1 year it’s a crime he is not Yonko level in your mind let alone placing admirals as strong as likes of Katakuri. Akainu is more than likely going to be final villain as well and the fact that he is lower than Yonko level is also pretty wrong. All admirals are of similar strength so they all should be Yonko levels. It’s funny tho would oda say Marco or Katakuri is so strong they can find one piece in 1 year? Or would they even be constantly foreshadowed and hinted to be on same level as yonkos when luffy himself said he will defeat admirals and yonkos in future and don chin jao has specifically mentioned that luffy needs to beat admirals AND yonkos. Can you at least admit this fact?

On November 15 2018 12:20 evilfatsh1t wrote:

just because akainu can apparently find one piece in a year, it doesnt suddenly make him yonkou level. it just means he could probably find it in a year. thats it. we dont know how long it would take anyone else if they were serious about finding it so you cant form comparisons off that. tbh you should be taking that entire claim by oda with a grain of salt; even if it were completely true and by your assumption akainu is on par with yonkou, why havent big mom or kaidou found it yet? are they not the yonkou you are saying akainu is on par with? therefore it should take 1 year for them also?
finding one piece isnt like story mode tekken where you just go and beat the shit out of everyone and claim your prize at the end. or are you suggesting that because big mom and kaidou havent found one piece yet after decades, akainu would completely wreck them? your basis for akainus strength is flawed if youre relying on that one thing oda said about a hypothetical scenario

i cant be bothered reciting every instance in one piece that suggests admirals to be on par with yonkous but atm im pretty sure the only one making that claim here is you anyway.

On November 15 2018 11:32 Sentenal wrote:
You know, for Admirals supposedly being Youkou level, they sure did seem to have a hard time with White Beard's Division Commanders, Rayleigh, Doflamingo, Law, etc etc....

On November 15 2018 12:20 evilfatsh1t wrote:

just because akainu can apparently find one piece in a year, it doesnt suddenly make him yonkou level. it just means he could probably find it in a year. thats it. we dont know how long it would take anyone else if they were serious about finding it so you cant form comparisons off that. tbh you should be taking that entire claim by oda with a grain of salt; even if it were completely true and by your assumption akainu is on par with yonkou, why havent big mom or kaidou found it yet? are they not the yonkou you are saying akainu is on par with? therefore it should take 1 year for them also?
finding one piece isnt like story mode tekken where you just go and beat the shit out of everyone and claim your prize at the end. or are you suggesting that because big mom and kaidou havent found one piece yet after decades, akainu would completely wreck them? your basis for akainus strength is flawed if youre relying on that one thing oda said about a hypothetical scenario

i cant be bothered reciting every instance in one piece that suggests admirals to be on par with yonkous but atm im pretty sure the only one making that claim here is you anyway.

On November 15 2018 14:19 Sentenal wrote:
So, things that don't matter to you: Doflamingo squaring off with zero shits given against Fujitora and Kuzan on separate occasions. Fujitora not being able to break Doflamingo's birdcage. Akainu getting his shit wrecked by Whitebeard, after said Whitebeard had been stabbed through the gut and already was an old man with health problems. Kizaru shitting his pants and backing down vs Benn Beckman. All 3 Admirals being fought to a standstill by Whitebeard's Division Commanders, prior to them being distracted.

Good to know

On November 15 2018 11:32 Sentenal wrote:
You know, for Admirals supposedly being Youkou level, they sure did seem to have a hard time with White Beard's Division Commanders, Rayleigh, Doflamingo, Law, etc etc....

But the final thing I want to say is that there are no direct power levels in One Piece.

On November 15 2018 17:22 RenSC2 wrote:
I seemed to remember the Marines needing the Shichibukai to tip the balance against Whitebeard. Essentially, the Marines were approximately equal to the Whitebeard pirates, but would be superior with the Shichibukai. So for that to hold true, Sengoku and the original 3 admirals + other relevant characters (Garp, etc) would need to be on par with Whitebeard and his commanders + other relevant crew members (allied Captains).

That's the balance that needs to be made for that time.

The silly thing in One Piece is all the talk of having X thousands of men. Even in Wano, the plan is to form an army of X thousands of men... but the samurai are worth hundreds each. That's just silly. Kaido or Jack or any relevant character could slaughter thousands of men easily. All the power is in the few key players, so we can ignore the rest.

Whitebeard was noticeably weak at Marineford (Crocodile commented on it) and was also stabbed by Squard, so his crew was severely handicapped from where they should be as a Yonko crew. Add it all together and I'd say Akainu is around Yonko level, but not quite there on his own. He got the better of a weak Whitebeard, but also took a beating. The additions of Kizaru and Akioji put them over the top of a single Yonko. Then you still have all the vice admirals + Sengoku and Garp to take on the commanders. There's probably some pretty big variance between the commanders too with Marco and Vista being beasts, but others falling well short... Jozu did get toyed with by Doflamingo.

But the final thing I want to say is that there are no direct power levels in One Piece. Instead, there are counters and then Haki plot armor to cover up the rest when convenient.

On November 15 2018 23:15 Sentenal wrote:
Too bad Garp never said that, and also too bad thats now how Marineford went down

On November 15 2018 23:48 Mensol wrote:
I love the alternate OP and Marineford stories from Shinokuki.

"Admirals except Akainu didnt get hurt by WB pirates"
"None of WB pirates except WB himself were match to admirals"
"All admirals managed to hurt WB"
"WB managed to beat Akainu with a sneak attack from his back" (gotta mention that its my personal favorite)
"Fujitora has only used 20% of his power at Dressrosa"
"Garp mentioned that marines and seven shichibukai at their full strenght equals to four yonkou".