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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-15 21:31:55
November 15 2018 21:29 GMT
#29581
shoutout to Shinokuki for fighting the good fight
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Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
November 15 2018 21:56 GMT
#29582
On November 16 2018 01:29 Mensol wrote:
"None of WB pirates except WB himself were match to admirals"



"Admirals except Akainu didnt get hurt by WB pirates"

[image loading]


"WB managed to beat Akainu with a sneak attack from his back"



"Garp mentioned that marines and seven shichibukai at their full strenght equals to four yonkou". Nothing to explain, its an alternate story from you.



"Our enemies are the mightiest pirates on the sea: Whitebeard pirates. To counter them, we have got all three admirals and Seven Warlods as well as the Navy's entire combat force.


"All admirals managed to hurt WB" Such thing didnt happen.

"Fujitora has only used 20% of his power at Dressrosa" Such thing didnt happen.

I hope you are satisfied.



Gotta find that 20% gravity power quote lip
I’ll quote what Garp said once I’m off work
Kizaru put laser holes in wb and aokiji froze WB but his quake fruit managed to break that ice. Well no need to explain what happened with akainu vs wb
Sengoku tend to hype up wb crew but really none of the top tiers except akainu seemed to really try. Had Garp, Sengoku, 3 admirals, Mihawk actually did that is too one sided. They were just chilling literally. Wb also has 3 shichibukai work for them and wb crew still got recked.
Sengoku said wb is strongest man but that seemed pretty contradictory when wb said he was no longer the same man as before and Marco pointed out wb’s coo was pretty weak and etc.

Like I said marine ford was full of too many plot holes. There were just too many top tiers on one side for oda to really deal with. He had to resort to cut scenes where each top tier shows his power for a lil bit and takes a backseat. This was also when power scaling was low. I mean akainu probably would’ve turned entire battlefield into magma only on wb side just to obliterate them. But the concept of df awakening was not fully fleshed at the time.
Life is just life
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 15 2018 22:04 GMT
#29583
I think if you actually read the War at Marineford instead of bits and pieces, and then imagined the rest, it would make more sense to you
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
November 16 2018 01:56 GMT
#29584
On November 16 2018 07:04 Sentenal wrote:
I think if you actually read the War at Marineford instead of bits and pieces, and then imagined the rest, it would make more sense to you


Can you explain to me your picture of marine ford? We can discuss with that as a starting point.
Life is just life
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8868 Posts
November 16 2018 05:03 GMT
#29585
On November 16 2018 04:29 sharkie wrote:
Pretts sure the only reason the WG and marines exist is because the yonkous would never unite under one banner and fight together..

If marines+shichibukai were so strong together we would have no pirates.

this pretty much sums everything up. according to shinokuki there is an admiral for every yonkou thus providing balance to the world.
the reality is if all the yonkou decided to take on the wg together, marines would get fucked.
even akainu and sengoku were like "ok lets end this war" when shanks showed up at marineford. they cant take everyone on together
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
602 Posts
November 16 2018 06:01 GMT
#29586
Whoever's stronger in OP doesn't always win.

In universe power is defined not only by strength, but political power, territory or military might; they're called the three great powers, not the "these are, in order, who's stronger or just as strong, in these three categories".

Even though the Marines "won" Marineford, not one character directly defeated another aside from Ace and Akainu; Whitebeard was taken by attrition and Blackbeard's dirty tactics, and Jozu/Marco were taken offguard, but they survived anyways. Garp and Sengoku lamented many times before and during the battle that either side could prevail.

Arguing about who's stronger in OP is a futile exercise because Oda ultimately decides who the narrative should smile favorably upon. Luffy vs Katakuri is perhaps the best example of why strength is almost meaningless for fans predicting/determining who wins vs another.

Also Devil Fruit interactions can make a lot of fights ambiguous or superfluous when there's a hierarchy of superiority; e.g. Akainu vs Ace, Aokiji vs Monet, Blackbeard vs Fujitora.

"Devil Fruit users don't grow stronger, they just grow more creative... You never know how two abilities will match up and interact vs each other."
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 16 2018 17:14 GMT
#29587
discussing power level lol .. guys Oda will make a character as strong as he/she needs to be for a specific fight. There is no logic behind this and it's the same for every shonen out there
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 23 2018 06:26 GMT
#29588
Rip invisible perv man
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 23 2018 07:08 GMT
#29589
Aww... Our favourite anonymous reporter got offed off screen.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 23 2018 08:28 GMT
#29590
And a theme has emerged with Kaidou's crew. Playing cards, like Doflamingo's, but instead of the suits, its the rank (King, Queen, and Jack). Kind of makes me wonder if Ace ever had a part in Kaidou's crew.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 23 2018 09:35 GMT
#29591
On November 23 2018 17:28 Sentenal wrote:
And a theme has emerged with Kaidou's crew. Playing cards, like Doflamingo's, but instead of the suits, its the rank (King, Queen, and Jack). Kind of makes me wonder if Ace ever had a part in Kaidou's crew.

Its not just ranks, all of Beast pirates have card-related names
Holdem
Speed
X (10) - Drake
And Kaido meams Deck

Also Joker
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 23 2018 10:05 GMT
#29592
I’d like to take a moment to gush over yet another FUCKIN MYTHICAL ZOAN FRUIT just casually tossed in there. The god damned Nine Tailed Fox fruit nonetheless.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
November 23 2018 18:54 GMT
#29593
Seems pointless to put a bounty on Yonkous. Does the world government think that, upon seeing the bounty, some bounty hunter will take up the task and actually bring Blackbeard down?
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 19:37:52
November 23 2018 19:37 GMT
#29594
Not to mention all the strongest outside the marines were conscripted into the marines anyways, so there wouldn't be any bounty hunters strong enough anyways. As far as we can tell all bounty hunters are weak anyways, it seems so pointless.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 19:45:03
November 23 2018 19:40 GMT
#29595
King the Wildfire has coolest design since Katakuri. He looks terrifying.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
November 23 2018 20:01 GMT
#29596
On November 24 2018 03:54 herMan wrote:
Seems pointless to put a bounty on Yonkous. Does the world government think that, upon seeing the bounty, some bounty hunter will take up the task and actually bring Blackbeard down?

Could be an interesting story to be fair. We haven't really seen any legit bounty hunters in a long time. Some big game hunters only going after people with billion+ bounties would be a cool mini arc. Although I guess we're a bit late into the story now to have time for that.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 23 2018 20:24 GMT
#29597
what a chapter, i just want to see what the green beast is capable of

i also wonder - who is the ace ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 23 2018 20:25 GMT
#29598
On November 24 2018 05:24 Makro wrote:
what a chapter, i just want to see what the green beast is capable of

i also wonder - who is the ace ?

he dead rip
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 20:30:26
November 23 2018 20:30 GMT
#29599
On November 24 2018 05:25 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 05:24 Makro wrote:
what a chapter, i just want to see what the green beast is capable of

i also wonder - who is the ace ?

he dead rip

lul

gonna come back to life thanks to Rinnegan man in mariejoie anyway

look, we already have the 9 tailed fox coming in - we naruto now
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
November 23 2018 20:36 GMT
#29600
On November 24 2018 05:24 Makro wrote:
what a chapter, i just want to see what the green beast is capable of

i also wonder - who is the ace ?

The Shogun maybe? Or nobody
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
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