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Hungary5221 Posts

October 04 2018 13:07 GMT

#29381

Yeah, I am thinking the translation might not be helpful but there was a mental break there for me too.
I guess the idea is that we aren't hearing the whole story (yet).

Any other translations besides jaiminisbox that one ought to check out (and is available in EU?).

Dangermousecatdog

United Kingdom7084 Posts

October 04 2018 13:10 GMT

#29382

It doesn't make sense to tie the time travel devil fruit ability to Shanks appearing at marineford as it can only travel forward in time, not in location. So in order to appear, Shanks would need to instantaneously move to marineford before the war began, then activating it at what happens to be at all the right places and to appear at the right time. They would need to be both undetectable and be able to tell the future, in which case they could had easily rescued Ace anytime they wanted to anyways. It's entirely possible that somebody on Shank's crew does have a time ability though, just not that they used the time travel fruit at marineford.

sharkie

Austria18560 Posts

October 04 2018 13:50 GMT

#29383

well wasnt one of Shanks' crew the fastest person in the world? Must be a devil fruit ability

and yeah Shanks cant have toki toki, marineford required him to travel back in time, not forward

Sentenal

United States12398 Posts

October 04 2018 14:14 GMT

#29384

Plus Shanks can swim

sumsaR

Sweden1812 Posts

October 04 2018 15:29 GMT

#29385

Kinemon thinking his plan will survive contact with the straw hats? How naive.

Mensol

14536 Posts

October 04 2018 15:57 GMT

#29386

We dont know the full abilities of Toki Toki No Mi, i dont think its only capable of sending one the future. Perhaps it has power to slow down the time around him.

Just look at how fast he arrived at front of Akainu when he wasnt even at sight.

On October 04 2018 23:14 Sentenal wrote:
Plus Shanks can swim

He has never shown that he is capable of swim on post-skip. It has been 13 years since he met Luffy so he could have acquired the fruit in those years.

Sentenal

United States12398 Posts

October 04 2018 15:59 GMT

#29387

Its almost like people who are really strong in One Piece are also really fast...!

Mensol

14536 Posts

October 04 2018 16:06 GMT

#29388

Except none of them are as fast ast Shanks... He is so fast that bunch of legendary pirates/marines couldnt sense him coming to Marineford. Everyone was surprised when he showed up right front of Akainu.

sharkie

Austria18560 Posts

October 04 2018 16:10 GMT

#29389

On October 05 2018 01:06 Mensol wrote:
Except none of them are as fast ast Shanks... He is so fast that bunch of legendary pirates/marines couldnt sense him coming to Marineford. Everyone was surprised when he showed up right front of Akainu.

Ben Beckmann did the same in front of Kizaru

Ej_

47656 Posts

October 04 2018 16:37 GMT

#29390

Enjoyed this chapter

The arc finally shaping up + lost Zoro about to pick a fight with beast pirates

Merany

France890 Posts

October 04 2018 16:40 GMT

#29391

Another interesting bit is that Oden's wife herself came from the past. Wonder if there's a story behind that (void century?).

Makro

France16890 Posts

October 04 2018 17:10 GMT

#29392

On October 04 2018 21:28 Mensol wrote:
There is a good chance of Shanks being the new possessor of Toki Toki No Mi.

good chance ?

let's calm down a bit - i had to reread a lot though because i just realized that oda just cut a part of the explanation, so i thought the chapter was missing a part

Sentenal

United States12398 Posts

October 04 2018 17:24 GMT

#29393

Enel is faster

Mensol

14536 Posts

October 04 2018 17:49 GMT

#29394

On October 05 2018 02:24 Sentenal wrote:

Show nested quote +

Enel is faster

Because he has a fruit that allow him to be fast, so does Kizaru.

But what does Shanks have?

Sentenal

United States12398 Posts

October 04 2018 17:53 GMT

#29395

On October 05 2018 02:49 Mensol wrote:

Show nested quote +

Because he has a fruit that allow him to be fast, so does Kizaru.

But what does Shanks have?

Ooooh, okay, I see what you are getting at. In that case, I think Shanks must have the Goro Goro no Mi. We haven't seen Enel since he conquered the Moon. There was plenty of time inbetween when we last saw Enel and Marineford for Shanks to have gotten his Devil Fruit, therefore his fast speed must be because he has Enel's fruit. Enel probably died of Cerebral hypoxia, and then Shanks ate the Fruit once it went back to the Grand Line

Mensol

14536 Posts

October 04 2018 19:10 GMT

#29396

Except that its not what i did... We know that Kozuki Toki is died since she has openly said that its the end of her when she sent Momonosuke&co to the future. So her df has to be respawned somewhere in the world right? Considering how fast Shanks moves, i have said that he could have gotten it.

We have seen tons of characters so far in One Piece, just go on show me another person who moves as fast as Shanks that dont have a DF to allow them move fast. There was a 2 meters at best between Cobi and Akainu, and Shanks wasnt even on sight just came out of nowhere to stop Akainu. Or is it Akainu being too slow? I dont think so.