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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 06 2018 23:45 GMT
#28441
On February 07 2018 08:43 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:20 Hyperbola wrote:
Maybe yall can be satisfied with this: Oda said that if Enel were a pirate, he would have a bounty of 500 million, right? Katakuri's bounty is 1 billion. Last I checked, 1 billion is greater than 500 million.

And before you lot cry about bounties not being comparable to power level, I'm afraid you can't pick and choose here. If you're going to be Naruto/DBZ fans about this, debating 1v1s till you're blue in the face, then you have to go all the way.

yeah he was 500 million... 2 years ago. Luffy got 500 mil bounty in 2 years. Enel would have 1 billion bounty min now

Assuming Enel gets stronger, and he very well may not have. Luffy spent the time training, and Enel hasn't.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
February 06 2018 23:46 GMT
#28442
On February 07 2018 08:45 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:43 Shellshock wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:20 Hyperbola wrote:
Maybe yall can be satisfied with this: Oda said that if Enel were a pirate, he would have a bounty of 500 million, right? Katakuri's bounty is 1 billion. Last I checked, 1 billion is greater than 500 million.

And before you lot cry about bounties not being comparable to power level, I'm afraid you can't pick and choose here. If you're going to be Naruto/DBZ fans about this, debating 1v1s till you're blue in the face, then you have to go all the way.

yeah he was 500 million... 2 years ago. Luffy got 500 mil bounty in 2 years. Enel would have 1 billion bounty min now

Assuming Enel gets stronger, and he very well may not have. Luffy spent the time training, and Enel hasn't.

he's fighting pirates on the fucking moon
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
February 06 2018 23:46 GMT
#28443
On February 07 2018 08:41 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:34 Zambrah wrote:
"As much as," I'm taking that to mean he'd max at 500K and as far as Im concerned that makes him a LIL BITCH BOY

A lil bitch boy at this part of the story though. I'm pretty sure he was the strongest antagonist Luffy ever fought until Marineford. And possibly the strongest opponent he beat until Doflamingo?

OP is pretty long, so I do forget stuff understandably.


Yeah but everyone's involving Katakuri in the discussion, so that means we're involving everything up til the latest arc, so I maintain that Enel is Enelittlebitchboy.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 06 2018 23:48 GMT
#28444
On February 07 2018 08:46 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:45 intotheheart wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:43 Shellshock wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:20 Hyperbola wrote:
Maybe yall can be satisfied with this: Oda said that if Enel were a pirate, he would have a bounty of 500 million, right? Katakuri's bounty is 1 billion. Last I checked, 1 billion is greater than 500 million.

And before you lot cry about bounties not being comparable to power level, I'm afraid you can't pick and choose here. If you're going to be Naruto/DBZ fans about this, debating 1v1s till you're blue in the face, then you have to go all the way.

yeah he was 500 million... 2 years ago. Luffy got 500 mil bounty in 2 years. Enel would have 1 billion bounty min now

Assuming Enel gets stronger, and he very well may not have. Luffy spent the time training, and Enel hasn't.

he's fighting pirates on the fucking moon

I thought he conquered them instantly.
kiss kiss fall in love
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
February 06 2018 23:50 GMT
#28445
On February 07 2018 08:48 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:46 Shellshock wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:45 intotheheart wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:43 Shellshock wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:20 Hyperbola wrote:
Maybe yall can be satisfied with this: Oda said that if Enel were a pirate, he would have a bounty of 500 million, right? Katakuri's bounty is 1 billion. Last I checked, 1 billion is greater than 500 million.

And before you lot cry about bounties not being comparable to power level, I'm afraid you can't pick and choose here. If you're going to be Naruto/DBZ fans about this, debating 1v1s till you're blue in the face, then you have to go all the way.

yeah he was 500 million... 2 years ago. Luffy got 500 mil bounty in 2 years. Enel would have 1 billion bounty min now

Assuming Enel gets stronger, and he very well may not have. Luffy spent the time training, and Enel hasn't.

he's fighting pirates on the fucking moon

I thought he conquered them instantly.

the first wave. im sure millions more came to surrender to his awesome might and he's about to lead a space pirate robot army to take all the vearth in the universe
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
February 06 2018 23:50 GMT
#28446
Enel may have Conquered the Moon, but Katakuri would've turned the whole moon to Mochi by now.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 06 2018 23:54 GMT
#28447
On February 07 2018 08:50 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:48 intotheheart wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:46 Shellshock wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:45 intotheheart wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:43 Shellshock wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:20 Hyperbola wrote:
Maybe yall can be satisfied with this: Oda said that if Enel were a pirate, he would have a bounty of 500 million, right? Katakuri's bounty is 1 billion. Last I checked, 1 billion is greater than 500 million.

And before you lot cry about bounties not being comparable to power level, I'm afraid you can't pick and choose here. If you're going to be Naruto/DBZ fans about this, debating 1v1s till you're blue in the face, then you have to go all the way.

yeah he was 500 million... 2 years ago. Luffy got 500 mil bounty in 2 years. Enel would have 1 billion bounty min now

Assuming Enel gets stronger, and he very well may not have. Luffy spent the time training, and Enel hasn't.

he's fighting pirates on the fucking moon

I thought he conquered them instantly.

the first wave. im sure millions more came to surrender to his awesome might and he's about to lead a space pirate robot army to take all the vearth in the universe

I think that's about as much as we can talk without speculating way too much about things Oda hasn't shown us yet. Although that's probably the entire thread.
kiss kiss fall in love
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 06 2018 23:57 GMT
#28448
Minks can only transform when it's the full moon. Enel has conquered the moon by now, so Enel has to be considered at least as strong as all the minks in sulong form.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2555 Posts
February 07 2018 00:00 GMT
#28449
On February 07 2018 08:43 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:20 Hyperbola wrote:
Maybe yall can be satisfied with this: Oda said that if Enel were a pirate, he would have a bounty of 500 million, right? Katakuri's bounty is 1 billion. Last I checked, 1 billion is greater than 500 million.

And before you lot cry about bounties not being comparable to power level, I'm afraid you can't pick and choose here. If you're going to be Naruto/DBZ fans about this, debating 1v1s till you're blue in the face, then you have to go all the way.

yeah he was 500 million... 2 years ago. Luffy got 500 mil bounty in 2 years. Enel would have 1 billion bounty min now

The reason Luffy jumped so high up is because he spent years under the tutelage of Rayleigh. And when Rayleigh left, he spent months fighting the strongest beasts on what appears to be a Monster Hunter island. Also, Luffy is still young and thus has a lot of room to grow.

The chances that Enel encountered some kind of guru on the moon or enemies that could actually challenge him are a lot slimmer than in Luffy's situation. And if Enel spent 2 years just lounging around then I can't see him getting any stronger. If he decided to fall back down to Earth with an army and landed in the New World then maybe he could have progressed at Luffy's pace, but that is a pretty big IF.
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 07 2018 00:04 GMT
#28450
[image loading]

Enel has already become the pirate king.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 07 2018 00:12 GMT
#28451
You cant compare Katakuri with anyone though. He is the strongest non-Yonkou/Admiral we have ever seen so far along with Mihawk. Marco is also up there due to his DF but still he is little bit disappointing in terms of Haki compared to Katakuri.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
February 07 2018 00:23 GMT
#28452
On February 07 2018 09:12 Mensol wrote:
You cant compare Katakuri with anyone though. He is the strongest non-Yonkou/Admiral we have ever seen so far along with Mihawk. Marco is also up there due to his DF but still he is little bit disappointing in terms of Haki compared to Katakuri.


To be fair to Jack, Katakuri's bounty is only 57,000 higher than his, so they're likely quite comparable.

And given the nature of Marco's badass fruit and position in a former-Yonkou crew, I have a hard time imagining he's below the 1B mark himself. But Jack, Katakuri, Marco are all likely in that same tier of roughly Admiral level (supposing a Yonkou > an Admiral)
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 07 2018 00:35 GMT
#28453
Jack went ham against Fujitora, Sengoku and Tsuru and made alive, so no doubt that he has great durability. However, Jack also had his ass handed to him by Inuarashi and Nekomamushi before the poison stuff happened, so i cant help but believe that he is weaker than Katakuri. I highly doubt that both Inuarashi and Nekomamushi would have land a hit on Katakuri.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
February 07 2018 01:05 GMT
#28454
Its also possible that Inu and Neko are also just incredible badasses, I mean didnt they hang with Roger and Whitebeard? Minks are definitely strong af.

Though I acknowledge that Jack's bounty could be like Eustace Kid's bounty where its inflated by general murder and mayhem, which definitely does not seem to be Katakuri's style.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-07 02:34:49
February 07 2018 02:33 GMT
#28455
On February 07 2018 10:05 Zambrah wrote:
Its also possible that Inu and Neko are also just incredible badasses, I mean didnt they hang with Roger and Whitebeard? Minks are definitely strong af.

Though I acknowledge that Jack's bounty could be like Eustace Kid's bounty where its inflated by general murder and mayhem, which definitely does not seem to be Katakuri's style.

just being the right hand of a younko would inflate your bounty though purely to try to reduce there strength of the crew

Jack went ham against Fujitora, Sengoku and Tsuru and made alive, so no doubt that he has great durability. However, Jack also had his ass handed to him by Inuarashi and Nekomamushi before the poison stuff happened, so i cant help but believe that he is weaker than Katakuri. I highly doubt that both Inuarashi and Nekomamushi would have land a hit on Katakuri.


did i miss something? i thought he was fighting them for days on end before they pulled out the poison, they kept switching out during day/night to rest but Jack was on the front lines for the entire battle
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
February 07 2018 03:16 GMT
#28456
The status of being a High Ranking Yonkou crewmember would likely matter for the bounty, that being said typically high ranking crewmembers of the Yonkou are indeed OP as fuck, so I imagine that the numbers are generally accurate, whereas in the Marines they could theoretically be important like Spandam, but be a weak ass like Spandam. Yonkou/Pirate World seems more about legitimate strength though.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
February 07 2018 07:07 GMT
#28457
On February 07 2018 07:59 Zambrah wrote:
I dont know why you keep using ! like a space

Mistake. Typing with litle time on mobile, and with hurry. The ! Is next to space, and easy to hit on my keyboard.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
February 07 2018 12:55 GMT
#28458
On February 07 2018 09:23 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 09:12 Mensol wrote:
You cant compare Katakuri with anyone though. He is the strongest non-Yonkou/Admiral we have ever seen so far along with Mihawk. Marco is also up there due to his DF but still he is little bit disappointing in terms of Haki compared to Katakuri.


To be fair to Jack, Katakuri's bounty is only 57,000 higher than his, so they're likely quite comparable.

And given the nature of Marco's badass fruit and position in a former-Yonkou crew, I have a hard time imagining he's below the 1B mark himself. But Jack, Katakuri, Marco are all likely in that same tier of roughly Admiral level (supposing a Yonkou > an Admiral)

commanders < admirals = yonkous < enel is canon
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-07 22:28:21
February 07 2018 22:27 GMT
#28459
On February 07 2018 16:07 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 07:59 Zambrah wrote:
I dont know why you keep using ! like a space

Mistake. Typing with litle time on mobile, and with hurry. The ! Is next to space, and easy to hit on my keyboard.


Ah, okay that makes sense, I was just curious, but mobile key card makes sense. :D

Also I challenge the notion that Admiral = Yonkou

EDIT: Mobile key card, autocorrect strikes again. Love mobile stuff!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 08 2018 05:46 GMT
#28460
+ Show Spoiler +
so before Gear 5 were seeing variations on gear 4 i guess
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